Poll results: do innovations in the Huawei P8 justify its iPhone or Galaxy S level pricing?

Huawei P8

Huawei P8

Dimensions

5.7 x 2.84 x 0.25 inches

144.9 x 72.1 x 6.4 mm

Weight

5.08 oz (144 g)

Apple iPhone 6

Apple iPhone 6

Dimensions

5.44 x 2.64 x 0.27 inches

138.1 x 67 x 6.9 mm

Weight

4.55 oz (129 g)

Samsung Galaxy S6

Samsung Galaxy S6

Dimensions

5.65 x 2.78 x 0.27 inches

143.4 x 70.5 x 6.8 mm

Weight

4.87 oz (138 g)

Samsung Galaxy S6 edge

Samsung Galaxy S6 edge

Dimensions

5.59 x 2.76 x 0.28 inches

142.1 x 70.1 x 7 mm

Weight

4.66 oz (132 g)

Huawei P8

Huawei P8

Dimensions

5.7 x 2.84 x 0.25 inches

144.9 x 72.1 x 6.4 mm

Weight

5.08 oz (144 g)

Apple iPhone 6

Apple iPhone 6

Dimensions

5.44 x 2.64 x 0.27 inches

138.1 x 67 x 6.9 mm

Weight

4.55 oz (129 g)

Samsung Galaxy S6

Samsung Galaxy S6

Dimensions

5.65 x 2.78 x 0.27 inches

143.4 x 70.5 x 6.8 mm

Weight

4.87 oz (138 g)

Samsung Galaxy S6 edge

Samsung Galaxy S6 edge

Dimensions

5.59 x 2.76 x 0.28 inches

142.1 x 70.1 x 7 mm

Weight

4.66 oz (132 g)

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Slowly but surely Huawei built its P-line of flagship handsets as a direct alternative to the more established iPhone and Galaxy S premium smartphone franchises. The P6, P7 and, now, the newly-announced P8, have all shipped with $500+ MSRPs, which is way above what the typical Chinese handset costs, even the flagship ones.

It is Apple that Huawei mimics with the strategy, rather than Samsung, as the Korean company usually stuffs its phones to the gills with the latest specs, while the team from Cupertino bets on a proven specs sheet that is a level below the top-shelf stuff, but stuffed in a well-crafted body, and polished to perfection. Well, the "premium" Huawei P8 version (you know, the one with enough internal storage, as the microSD slot doubles as a nano SIM one, too) will cost 600 EUR or USD, which is not that far off from the price tag that a basic iPhone 6 ($650) or Galaxy S6 ($700) command now. Moreover, while the P8 is thinner than both, it doesn't sport a fingerprint sensor, or a Quad HD display - features that its direct competitors have.

Thus, Huawei breaks the affordable value-for-money mould that we've come to expect from Chinese handsets for years, and Xiaomi seems poised to follow suit, judging from the Mi4 and current Mi Note flagships' pricing. The trend comes to show that Chinese handset companies are becoming more and more confident in their abilities to pull off handsets rivaling the best out there, and are pricing them very similarly, with about a Benjamin discount for the brand name only, hoping to emulate the profit margins of Apple or Samsung.

That is why we asked you last week if you think that Huawei is right to be confident enough about the P8, and price its new flagship close enough to an iPhone 6 or a Galaxy S6. Well, the majority of our respondents (68%) don't think so, perhaps meaning that Huawei is shooting itself in the foot with this one, as most people would go for an iPhone 6 or a Galaxy S6 for a tad more, rather than sport the P8 flagship - we'll see how the new Huawei darling fares on the market, though.

Do innovations in the Huawei P8 justify its iPhone or Galaxy S level pricing?

Yes, it's every bit as good
31.77%
No, Huawei went over its head with the P8 price tag
68.23%

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P8
  • Display 5.2" 1080 x 1920 pixels
  • Camera 13 MP / 8 MP front
  • Processor HiSilicon Kirin, Octa-core, 2000 MHz
  • Storage 16 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 2680 mAh

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23 Comments

1. azene unregistered

just hands-on the galaxy s6 and s6 edge , feels premium

17. scramasax

Posts: 45; Member since: Mar 07, 2015

Very good point, well said.

18. Simona unregistered

Even P8 looks very premium .. problem is in poll that 68% ppl has no idea what Huawei P series is .. 32% ppl owns Huawei smartphone

2. Planterz

Posts: 2120; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

I honestly don't see why a Chinese phone HAS to be cheaper than flagships from the big name brands just because it's Chinese. For one thing, the many of the actual hardware components are the same as those on other flagships. More importantly, they all come from the same dang factories anyway. So if it costs as much to make a Huawei P8 as an iPhone 6+ or Galaxy S6 Edge, why should consumers get a discount simply because the company is Chinese rather than American or Korean? I guess the only answer is that the Chinese companies tend to rely on value and word of mouth/internet buzz to do their advertizing for them. Samsung spends a couple billion dollars a year to advertize for their mobile division. I don't know what Apple spends, but it's definitely a metric @#$%load as well. Of course, they don't actually "spend" that money, they get it right back when you pay several hundred to a thousand dollars for a device that cost $250-300 to make (and then some - ie: profit). But that's where Huawei is aiming to be - right alongside Samsung and Apple. They want to be regarded as a manufacturer of high-end devices, and they'll never get that reputation if they follow the business model employed by companies like Xiaomi, Micromax, and companies we've never heard of in Europe or the west (undercutting the competition to sell more devices - less profit per unit, but more units sold). In the long run, it's probably a smart move on their part to price their high-end devices alongside other flagships, because this should (in theory) give them a reputation of being high quality.

19. Simona unregistered

It is ALL about marketing .. and advertise ..

20. Simona unregistered

They are not bothered about western countries like USA or western EU Better is a bit for eastern EU .. and obviously more east. So: East EU + ASIA + INDIA +RUSSIA ..so count that how many ppl are there and compare it with the rest ... MAN, They have USA customers in anus ... you know... They are completely satisfied they literally started in 2013 with P6 apple started in 2007 better head-start This goes EVEN for samsung believe me or NOT ! Samsung will be good but only for short time .. Why the biggest samsung store in London had to be closed down ? Because it was EMPTY.. 1000 ppl in apple stores EVERY DAY ! UK ppl are like USA ppl iphone ,iphone , iphone and iphone, brainwashed with fkin iphone ..

22. TerryTerius unregistered

For one, you literally have no idea what tomorrow brings. So predicting Samsung's future is as possible for you as it is for a chipmunk to speak the human tongue. Secondly, Apple has huge popularity in the U.S for two reasons One, this is their backyard, two; they are perceived to be the most "prestigious" tech brand in the world and to have the most well thought out and hassle free OS experience. Considering the U.S and U.K are very close, it's no surprise we're similar with our purchasing habits. In this case. The 80-20 rule is true in all things, especially with groupthink. Aside from that, if you think Huawei, Xiaomi or any other phone company is going to replicate Apple or Samsung level's of success without selling to the global market then you're very much mistaken. India, China and Russia have nowhere near the average wages in the U.S. The U.S is around $3,263. Russia is around $1,215, India is around $295, and China is around $656. On paper, China has the largest economy in the world, followed by the U.S and then India. Largely because of sheer numbers. In reality, the average U.S Citizen has far greater disposable income. However, China has a very large middle class that is growing, while the U.S Middle Class is on the decline... pretty much intentionally. But as it stands right now, it'd be impossible to pull what Apple or Samsung did without including Europe and the U.S.

3. Moose

Posts: 418; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

I agree that a Chinese phone doesn't have to be cheaper just because it is Chinese. The issue is BRAND. A no-name car brand could be as good as a Mercedes but can't charge enough because people are prepared to pay extra for premium brands. There's no logic to it, just emotion. Any phone maker from anywhere without a brand name has to charge less to sell, no matter whether it has equally high end specs as the big boys. I personally like Huawei phones but they are not quite there in terms of brand status, hence why I think their Ascend Mate 7 from last year was hideously over priced, albeit great specs.

4. busancun

Posts: 1; Member since: Apr 20, 2015

That's the price discrimination and the irrationalness of the ordinary consumers who has little knowledge of the hardware of the smartphones. Almost every smartphone of every brand, including IPhone and Samsung, is made in China. Ironically, people laugh at products made in China, but actually use the products they think are not made but in fact made in China. Consumer loving Apple or Samsung smartphones usually are IT illiterate and blind fashion followers.

5. JohnK

Posts: 117; Member since: Mar 03, 2015

Guys, it's not because it's a chinese one, it's because they didn't put enough inside it to justify their pricing. When you are all watching at components prices, you are all saying "damn this phone is overpriced". Well inside P8, beside their "yet to be seen cpu at work", there's not enough "2015 tech" to justify high pricing (aluminium, mid battery, miraculous 13MP camera?), especially if you compare it to other "chinese phones". At least on a M9, you get a freshy 20MP sensor (even if average) and still a solid SD810 despite its problems, on S6 QHD amoled/16MP OIS combo/faster network capabilities) etc.. Look even at the coming soon ZTE Z9 : " the Z9 is expected to sport a 5.5" Quad HD display panel, 64-bit octa-core Snapdragon 810 CPU should be under the hood with 3GB of RAM, and 16GB of native storage inside. A 20 MP camera is said to adorn the back of the phone, which will be priced at the equivalent of $484 USD " http://www.phonearena.com/news/Borderless-bandit-ZTE-Nubia-Z9-leaks-in-flesh-and-blood_id68438

6. xperian

Posts: 420; Member since: Apr 10, 2014

Of course price is unjustified, just like Galaxy s6 and iphone 6

13. bur60

Posts: 981; Member since: Jul 07, 2014

Finally someone said it... I just pray that S6 edge will keep its value like iphones

16. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

False. Their price is is not justified, the iPhone using 2012 parts isn't either. The iPhone costs Apple $250 to make, yet the most expensive model is $949 and using 2012 parts all which are cheap. The S6 Edge costs $290 to make, yet it is using 2014 parts which are expensive as they are all brand new. Since you have no idea what a justified cost is, maybe you should let the adults speak. Price is based on what you're getting. The Galaxy S6 starts at 599 with Verizon which means all the other carriers are simply price gouging. So Samsung selling a phone for double the cost is highly acceptable in my book for a high quality phone. Look at the hardware. To just say they ar charging to much? you are being foolish. The phone costs money to make. Samsung actually makes their own phone. They make all the parts with very few exception. They pay someone in China to assemble them. Consider that Samsung Electronics alone has 300,000 employees who work for them. Consider Samsung has the largest distribution channel on the planet which serves more retailers and carriers than all smartphone OEM's combined. That stuff all cost money to keep running. Apple doesn't have none of this overhead, yet they use 2 year old parts and sell it at more than premium. $599 for a full functional mobile computer that fits in your pocket? Is not to much to pay consider the ones that sit on your desk, dont offer any exceeding capabilities and they cost that or more.

7. Bondurant

Posts: 784; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

Most of the guys voted "No" are those who have never heard or used Huawei, and so their votes are obvious. Secondly the pricing of P8 is not the same as iphone or Galaxy S even by a stretch. So the poll is based on a false premise. And finally Huawei's pricing is the "recommended" pricing which comes down when in actual market. And if one then sees that actual market pricing with the price last years release one can notice the pricing is nearly the same (only difference is that they released this year a 64gb version with higher price) but the phone advanced and improved vastly.

8. JohnK

Posts: 117; Member since: Mar 03, 2015

The P7 was like 100e/$ cheaper last year (if not more, 16gb base). You can already find 64gb P8's on aliexpress > 620e/$, since i'm used to aliexpress, i know normally chinese phones are cheaper there but now i have to wait for other stores to get it at "official pricing".

10. Bondurant

Posts: 784; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

P7 market price was 480$ when initially released. In 6 months down to 435$ and and now 330$.

24. Bondurant

Posts: 784; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

P8 official pricing now out. Exactly like i said, the P8 is priced at 2888 (465$) yuan for 16gb version which is slightly cheaper than when P7 released but since international price varies i expect the pricing to be 480$ in international market. The 64gb on the other hand is quite high at 3588 Yuan which is weird.

9. legiloca

Posts: 1676; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

Once Again, Keep Dreaming Huawei.. you still have a very long way to go

11. dimas

Posts: 3380; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

The article's already giving us a hint basic iphone is $650, Samsung basic s6 is $700, P8's premium 64gb model is just $600. It's already a no brainer which is more affordable. QHD? No thanks, I can live with Full HD with longer battery life. I don't need any S-gimmick bloatwares and I think P8 deserve the pricing if the reviews will prove that the engineering is good. All of them were built in Chinese factories so quality is priority and the countries represented by the companies should have no bearing on this.

23. TerryTerius unregistered

Right. You're misunderstanding what people meant by over-priced. Like it or not, agree with it or not, Brand identity matters just as much (if not moreso) as your actual product. For example, Hyundai and Kia both make cars in the price-range of a BMW 5-series, Audi A6 and Mercedes E Class. It doesn't matter how good they are, it won't make a difference. If your brand is either unknown or lacking in prestige it's VERY difficult to break into the high-end of any product category. There are very few companies (Koenigsegg & Pagani for example) that manage to pull that off in an established industry. As far as phones go, $500+ is getting into luxury territory for most people. You're a techie, which by default means you're different compared to 90% of consumers. Samsung and Apple are two of the most valuable brands in the world. Yes, the quality of the product is part of it. The recognition of the name and reputation for the brand is the larger bit. Image, Reputation and Marketing are HUGELY important. Huawei doesn't have that in the west. I'd argue, it may not have that in the east either.

12. redmd

Posts: 1943; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

The name itself has a price. It's called brand recognition.

14. jumpingjack

Posts: 3; Member since: Apr 20, 2015

Something huwei forgot is there is such a thing as brand prestige pricing and that is something they don't have PRESTIGE in holding a huwei phone

21. cabuya

Posts: 41; Member since: Jul 16, 2012

I have a huawei mate 7 i pay around us450 and i love it never been so happy with a phone i was coming from a iphone 6 plus and note 4 and never going back huawei is a real brand just like samsung a apple.

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