Paris court rules that Apple owes €12 million for unpaid iPad taxes

Paris court rules that Apple owes €12 million for unpaid iPad taxes
A published report out of France says that a court in Paris has ruled against Apple to the tune of €12 million EUR ($16.5 million USD). Apple was accused of refusing to pay taxes related to iPads sold between March and December of 2012. According to French law, copie privee royalties must be paid on devices that can transfer or display copyrighted material.

Some believe that this tax is the reason why Apple recently raised the price of the Apple iPhone 5s and Apple iPhone 5c in the country. The price of the 16GB iPhone 5s was hiked €10 ($13.66 USD), the 32 GB model was raised €12 ($16.40 USD) and the 64 gig model added €18 ($24.59 USD). The Apple iPhone 5c's two storage options, 16GB and 32GB, saw its prices raised €10 and €12 respectively.

Meanwhile, Apple has yet to pay 1 red cent to Copie France which is supposed to receive the payment. Apple also continues to owe €5 million EUR ($6.9 million USD) for iPads sold in France during 2011. The lack of payment was noted by SACEM, which is the French society of authors, composers, and music publishers and is similar to BMI and ASCAP in the U.S.

source: PCInpact (translated) via 9to5Mac



1. DaHarder

Posts: 177; Member since: Oct 10, 2009

Question for Tim Cook: How Ya' Like Them Apples?

2. E.S.1

Posts: 308; Member since: Sep 14, 2013

That's funny lol

4. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

I see what you did there.

3. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

$16.5 million to them = $1 to us. I wish I had that kind of money.

7. Miracles

Posts: 560; Member since: Aug 31, 2013

A bit confusing. $16.5M to us = $1 to them. Isn't it more like that?

9. HASHTAG unregistered

Either way, same meaning, but most would put it the way you worded it.

15. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

Whoops yeah you're right. That's what happens when you're exhausted from woork. Thank you sir.

5. mr.techdude

Posts: 571; Member since: Nov 19, 2012

Yeh tellem paris

6. D.Aceveda

Posts: 432; Member since: Jun 30, 2012

They should pay an extra million for being an asshole

11. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

'Apple also continues to owe €5 million EUR ($6.9 million USD) for iPads sold in France during 2011.' What is 5 millions to a multi billions company? Yes! Please pay up, Apple!

14. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Thanks, because of this being about France, I have this kid's voice in my head from the movie Hancock who says asshole in a french accent

8. Topcat488

Posts: 1416; Member since: Sep 29, 2012

Oui,Oui,,, says Apple... WE (Oui) won't pay your "Stuuuuu-pit" taxes!!! NO, No, no.

18. PBXtech

Posts: 1032; Member since: Oct 21, 2013

I imagined that from Craig Ferguson's french accent, lol.

10. Sire3008

Posts: 87; Member since: Sep 26, 2013

So this can be regarded as tax fraud? Isn't it a serious offence? Common France! Demand $300 million dollars. Apple deserves it!!

12. xfire99

Posts: 1206; Member since: Mar 14, 2012

The truth will always be out there! Apple cant hide from theirs hypocritically side and all lies about exchange rates, my ass. Billions in bank and still damn greedy. The sad, peoples are buying theirs damn lies! If they just get it straight out, that reason of price raise and no one would care. Peoples will still buy theirs devices. Let see if this hypocritically company will drops the prices, when exchange rates changes in US dollar favor.

13. blattlaus

Posts: 75; Member since: Dec 12, 2010

Looks like Tim Cook will have to check his couch for change again.

16. Pancholo

Posts: 380; Member since: Feb 27, 2012

So Samsung "steals" electricity and Apple "avoids" taxes. Who's copying who? Sent from my Note 2 while charging in a friend's house.

17. squallz506

Posts: 1075; Member since: Oct 19, 2011

So apple is charging more for iphones in France and still not paying their taxes? This 16.5m + the 6m already owed is nothing compared to the $1b+ corporate taxes that apple dodges by operating out of Ireland (on paper only). Apple will probably just appeal for the next 10 years, "you're taxing us wrong"

19. 14545

Posts: 1835; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

I hate apple, but they aren't really wrong here. Why should an "author", or whomever, get paid for works that might never be used on these devices? However, this is just giving apple a taste of their own BS "infringement" medicine. Too everyone saying it's just chump change, think about this next time you go to buy a device. They will pass the cost along to the consumer, not just "eat the losses". So in essence, that is these so called "authors" stealing from the average citizen because they feel their work should be compensated even if it sucks. This is BS. Even if it is against apple.

20. squallz506

Posts: 1075; Member since: Oct 19, 2011

Its the rules of the game even if it's bs. In France you have to pay this tax if you want to sell a media product. What is bs is that apple refuses to play by the same rules as every other manufacturer.

21. 14545

Posts: 1835; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

The rules are BS. That's my point. Apple, along with many other companies should refuse to do business there until the laws are changed. I know if I were a CEO, I would. Also, we don't know if this is a retroactive law. So they could basically be using it to milk the producers of money just like the RIAA/MPAA/BMI/etc. do here. I'm with apple on this one. I would tell the French to get bent. I would take my ball and go home. With the iSheep following, apple as that kind of clout in the "artsy" community where this is being driven from. Just my .02.

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