One more try: Apple and Samsung hold final patent settlement talks today

One more try: Apple and Samsung hold final patent settlement talks today
Monday is sort of the eye of the storm when it comes to the Apple v. Samsung trial. Testimony concluded last Friday, and closing statements are scheduled for tomorrow ahead of jury deliberations starting Wednesday. But that doesn’t mean that nothing important is happening today, as Bloomberg is reporting that Kwon Oh Hyun, CEO of Samsung, will be discussing things with Apple’s Tim Cook in a last ditch effort to reach a settlement before things are in the hands of the jury.

The meeting was asked for last week by Judge Koh, who urged the companies to make one last effort at a settlement. Koh referred to herself as “pathologically optimistic” about the possibility of an agreement - we should know by the end of today if Koh’s optimism was warranted, as the two sides have to report the results in court later today.

That won’t be the only topic of discussion in court today – the jury may be getting the day off, but no one else is. Both sides have been hashing out the instructions that are to be read to the jury when they head into deliberations. Both legal teams were reportedly working overtime this weekend, reportedly still filing paperwork until the wee morning hours today. Judge Joh has already warned both sides about the excessive amounts of paperwork they are filing (that was what triggered Koh’s own outburst when she asked if Apple’s lawyers were “smoking crack”), so we think things might get a little testy inside the courthouse today.

Apparently Apple and Samsung have their legal team standing by to hash out the terms of a settlement if the two CEOs can come to an agreement in the generalities; we would like to see this issue get settled (preferably without significantly harming the fans and users of either company’s products) but our optimism doesn’t extend as far as Judge Koh’s.

source: Bloomberg via The Verge

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31 Comments

1. ricodroid

Posts: 16; Member since: Mar 30, 2012

well .. it seems this bull**** series is getting over ..

10. tedkord

Posts: 17094; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Wishful thinking. This will be in appeals for years. Not to mention all the new suits to come after.

25. snowgator

Posts: 3614; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Sigh..... Unfortunately, I can't find one stinking reason to disagree with you, tedkord. That really depresses me.....

2. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

All that overtime billing.... At $750/hour. Lotsa attorneys making coin off this lawsuit. Hope Apple and Sammy can settle this. Just not holding my breath.

4. MeoCao unregistered

There's no compromise possible, this is turf war no1 wants to concede.

5. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Only rarely does a jury vote entirely for one party. If this goes to the jury, expect a mixed result (Apple wins some and Sammy wins some). And the damages will be mixed as well. This could be a really muddy result that neither Apple or Sammy are happy with. This is what judge Koh is stressing to Apple and Sammy - cut a deal that you control, rather than have a deal cut for you that you don't like.

13. MeoCao unregistered

Problem is both sides think they'll win more than lose, and both sides want to hold high moral ground. We all know that wars are bad but they happen still, and very often.

26. snowgator

Posts: 3614; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Common sense, Doug?? During the Patent wars? From THESE two monoliths? If there were any of that to be found, we would never have gotten to this point and would still have no idea who Judge Koh is.....

29. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

3. Hammerfest

Posts: 384; Member since: May 12, 2012

Remember folks, Samsung's $14 per device is nothing like the $30-40 per device Apple wants, and yet Samsung's requested amount is "ridiculous".

18. structureman116

Posts: 142; Member since: Sep 14, 2010

Not to mention the fact that supposedly, without Samsung's technology, criphones would be an overpriced paperweight and not just an overpriced smartphone!

6. Nikolas.Oliver

Posts: 1574; Member since: Jul 01, 2012

in my country indonesia, there's a local cellphone company named NEXIAN which stands for "Next Generation" they have an iPhone clone called Nexian Magic, the design of that phone is 90% the same as iPhone LOL, i wonder how it was going to be like if apple see this phone http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0006.jpg http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0008.jpg http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0016.jpg http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0020.jpg http://mantugaul.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/nexian0022.jpg lol what do you think about this ?

7. quakan

Posts: 1418; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

They're just not seen as a threat in Apple's eyes, but if this company starts making some real traction then you can expect a lawsuit. I doubt they ever will make any real traction though.

8. Nikolas.Oliver

Posts: 1574; Member since: Jul 01, 2012

oh seriously i laughed until i cry after i saw this phone for the first time......it sells for $170

17. TROLL

Posts: 4851; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Why is every-1 Xeroxing iP4 design? It aint all that. Even SONY phones look much better than iPhone4. Rectangle with ugly curves. If you look at the Concept iP4 italian or the German designs, they are all Edge2Edge design; Slick. Stylish. Modern. Contempt. Looking piece of Art.....

9. JessJess unregistered

Is it the kind of settlement talk where Tim Cook sits down, looks at Kwon Oh Hyun and says "How about a magic trick?"

11. tedkord

Posts: 17094; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

More likely its the kind where Tim Cook looks his opponent right in the eye, and says, "Alright, in the name of peace, I'm authorized to up our offer for your 3g patents from one tenth of a penny per device to one fifth of a penny per device, if you agree to pay us $30 per device for our shapes."

12. gallitolimitededition

Posts: 18; Member since: Aug 16, 2012

at first I wanted this to end, but not anymore as this will carry into the phones making them more competetive

15. TROLL

Posts: 4851; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Gallitoking is that u.... Aha another acount?

16. gallitolimitededition

Posts: 18; Member since: Aug 16, 2012

yes is me.. just chillin not trying to troll, just killing time until I came back from being limited lol

20. TROLL

Posts: 4851; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

i new it was you! Where is Taco? How come hes, he dosent post! LMAO "not trying to TROLL" Its a bit booring with out you and Taco commenting, along with your other convoys. How is you?

22. gallitolimitededition

Posts: 18; Member since: Aug 16, 2012

Taco is not limited so we will hear from him as for me I am doing well getting to come back on Thursday hope you are doing good as well

24. TROLL

Posts: 4851; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Im cool Galli.

30. good2great

Posts: 1042; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

what up G? yeah its been pretty lame in here with you TROLL remixfa Snigg and Taco limited... good to see you all slowly coming back...

31. OptimusOne

Posts: 694; Member since: May 22, 2012

gallito, are you really an apple fan, or just an android fan trolling... it would be funny both ways

14. MartyK

Posts: 1043; Member since: Apr 11, 2012

Samsung would be a fool to settle with them.

19. Aeires unregistered

Jesse Jackson to the rescue! On a serious note, appeals are probably on the way.

21. TROLL

Posts: 4851; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

I wish, hope they settle this instead ov knowing the out-come!

23. Savage unregistered

Haven't they sat before and tried to negotiate before numerous times? And that didn't achieve anything.

27. Scott_H

Posts: 167; Member since: Oct 28, 2011

Yes, they have. The working hypothesis here is that as it becomes obvious that neither side is going to win everything they want that there is more pressure to come to an agreement, as going before a jury could (and probably will) result in a ruling that neither side is particularly happy with.

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