Nokia 808 PureView goes against... Canon EOS 5D Mark III
posted by Victor H. / Jun 19, 2012, 3:28 AM
The Nokia 808 PureView is all about the camera - its 41-megapixel shooter aims to revolutionize smartphone photography, and you only get to understand how far Nokia has gone with it when you look at things in comparison. GSMArena took the 808 PureView camera for a run against the best out of the DSLR elite, the Canon EOS 5D Mark III, a $3,499 professional shooting machine and... it was a tie. And that’s mind blowing.
Of course, the pictures below were all taken under the perfect conditions to highlight the best out of the 808 PureView. The weather provided plenty of sunshine and allowed for the big sensor on the Nokia handset to show off. The details as you can see for yourself are almost equal on the PureView and the Mark III, with slight difference in the color tonality as the palette was slightly more muted on the Nokia handset and the Mark III might have outdone the smartphone just a bit in terms of details. But it’s shocking how close in terms of quality the two crops come.
This is not to suggest that the 808 PureView can replace a DSLR for professional photographers - the differences would be more apparent in low-light conditions, and you don’t have the flexibility of lenses, but again, just standing next to the Mark III and matching the quality in any condition is an achievement we can’t ignore. The 808 PureView has also just gone on sale in the United States, and if there ever was something to justify its $699 price tag, the picutres below have got to be it.
source: GSM Arena
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Pure View technology is the greatest leap in digital photography since it first came out. This could very well save Nokia, only with the patent licenses alone.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 3:35 AM 18
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Why the hell on this Earth you took in the Iphone 4s for comparision !!
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 5:54 AM 10
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but why is it a reference when it is not the best camera in a mobile phone? and why the heck must every phone be compared to an iPhone? Is it the God of all smartphone? more like a "puny god" like what Hulk said to Loki..
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 1:02 PM 2
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A pro would anyway take a reflex over this one and a common user wouldn't get the difference. Still can't understand the use for this cameraphone. It's like producing music without a proper speaker - you can have all the best DSPs or audio cards in the world, but if you can't hear properly what you're making they are quite useless.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 3:49 AM 4
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The true is that the Canon Eos 5D Mark III has OPTICAL ZOOM AS WELL! but it wasn't used.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 6:39 AM 2
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808 is better
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 4:22 AM 5
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In his article, Victor forgot to mention that it's not only about clarity and selection of lenses. Pro photographers need full control over exposure settings, focal distance, color profiles, etc. Another important aspect is dynamic range. 808 can't compete on that level. Can the 808 take RAW images?
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 8:04 AM 5
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IMHO, Nokia 808 won't be replacing DSLR camera. but it will become perfect companion for any DSLR owner. DSLR is big and heavy, so no one actually carrying DSLR around on daily basis. AFAIK, pro photographers usually have smaller camera (ie:pocket digicam) beside his DSLR camera, and they carry those pocket digicams everyday, just in case they found something interesting and decided to take a picture of it. Nokia 808 will probably replace those pocket digicams, since it easier to carry a single cameraphone than a pocket digicam and a phone...
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 5:26 AM 9
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You hit the nail on the head. I own a 5D MKII dSLR and a Canon S90 point and shoot. I'm no pro photographer, but I would much rather carry around a phone that can replace my point and shoot as well than a phone and a separate camera. And I'm super impressed by the 808. It apparently is all that it is cracked up to be. That being said, I wouldn't call it even with a dSLR. This comparison was with done under very ideal conditions, and is a long distance shot at a 100% crop. The 5D's strengths are nice portrait shots, shallow depth, vibrant colors. The long distance shot also does not show off the quality of Canon's lenses, of which I'm assuming GSM Arena used a non L-series, standard zoom.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 2:36 PM 2
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Of course 41mp shooter that nokia has introduced is just awesome but os could be better to choose from like windows or android.!!
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 6:07 AM 2
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It's the only existing OS that can support the camera yet. Calm yo tits it's coming on WP devices soon by nokia.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 7:00 AM 3
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You know what's funny? The 5D Mark III got a 21Mp sensor and the Pureview a 38Mp sensor, even when you upscale the 5D pictures to the Pureview resolution, the 5D picture still looking slight better, you know what that means? The Nokia 808 can't really resolve 38Mp of detail, in fact, it proves that it's worse than 21Mp. And for those saying WOW IT'S AMAZING IT STILL COMPARABLE WITH A DSLR, try it again without sun light.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 6:39 AM 0
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the thing is that 5D Mark III is a DSLR. And 808 is a cameraphone. And having a phone with that kind of camera, it is truly amazing. And yes, i can say that the quality of the images taken with 808 is comparable with DSLR. It takes sharp and very detailed images despite it being more compact and having a phone capability. It can't beat a DSLR but yet again, it is comparable to the quality.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 7:04 AM 6
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It's not about the megapixels. You could have a 100 megapixel camera, but unless the optics and software are decent, it won't take great shots. Crazy-high resolution, sure, but not BETTER. It'd be like trying to use a big screen TV but using an old old home movie projector as the source, or perhaps a BetaMax cassette.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 8:22 AM 1
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This is truly impressive. While I know I'd be taking a DSLR out with me if I knew I wanted to do a photo shoot or have more flexibility with my photo taking, the 808 is stunning in that it's a portable, pocketable device that is good, not just in a pinch, but even in situations that would be too demanding for a normal smartphone camera, while being a phone, music player, internet device, and everything else it can be. And while I think Nokia priced it about $100-200 too high in the U.S. ($50 more than an iphone4s 16gb, $200 more than a Nokia Lumia 900), it's still a justified pricetag for what it can do. $350 camera, $350 smartphone. I'll get one as soon as I can.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 8:14 AM 2
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Some people are amazingly stupid and their hatred knows no bounds. Compare Nokia with other smartphones. They can't hold a candle to it. Comparing with DSLR only shows how advanced Nokia is. If I showed any of my N8's pictures to Nokia-hater-but-at-the-same-time-photography-guru he wouldn't be able to tell the difference. NEVER. Proved and haters humiliated. It's just a phone but look at those pictures. 41 mpx is a trick. But a clever one. Nokia won't put massive sensor taken from standard DSLR camera because it's simply too big. They made a shortcut so stop frikkin whinning about "overrated" 41 mpx sensor when you don't get a point. Perfect lighting conditions? Is it so strange? Every camera needs perfect light to make its best. Nokia has been developing photography since n73 was released and a little bit later n95. It's the next step in mobile photography. The point is, haters shut up and read carefully! "YOU DON'T NEED TO CARRY STAND ALONE CAMERA WITH YOU TO TAKE A REALLY GOOD PHOTO". Most people won't be able to distinguish those made by n8 or 808 from standard camera. In addition you can shoot a film in 1080p. And, look out, you can surf the internet, check e-mails and make calls! I'm not going to even elaborate on free maps. Everything thanks to one tiny device. Wow, it's rubbish anyway, right haters?
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 8:27 AM 5
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I agree with you 100%. People are complaining that 41 megapixels is too much and is overkill. Well if they knew the technology behind it instead of looking ignorant when they talk about stuff they don't know then they wouldn't hate so much. Nokia implemented the 41 megapixels so it can resample each individual into a six sub-pixel super pixel which will scale down to about 5 megapixels. Thinking about the amount of detail that it is able to capture is impressive. It also wouldn't do the phone justice if they didn't allow it to take full resolution images without resampling. AND YOU ALL NEED TO STOP SAY THAT THE CANON EOS 5D MARK III IS BETTER. WE KNOW THAT IT IS!!!! MY POINT IS THAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BUY A 3000 DOLLAR CAMERA THAT IS BIG CLUNKY AND HARD TO USE FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE ONE LET ALONE MAY WANT TO PAY SO MUCH MONEY FOR ONE!!! The Nokia 808 is a niche product designed for people who want nice photos that is as good as a 600 dollar DSLR but who don't want to carry around a DLSR that weighs like 1.3 pounds....If the camera is not for you then don't voice your opinions because they don't matter. People are going to buy the device anyways. If anyone read this I hope you understand now that people are natural barterers and will always look for the cheaper bargain ESPECIALLY WHEN THE CHEAPER BARGAIN IS A GREAT SOLUTION!!!!
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 9:30 AM 3
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yo, i gotta say.. thats pretty darn impressive. In regular light it keeps up with the 5D and kinda beats it on the first set of pix. That could really be a defining characteristic for future W7/8 phones.
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 2:47 PM 1
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I have seen the pictures made from this camera. They are good, but not DSLR quality. You cannot do the multitude of things you can with a DSLR with this. For saying this, I'm sure you will brand me a "hater(an immature child's term)." Those of you that says this phone can outperform a DSLR really do not understand photography at all. A Rebel takes better photos, as that's what it was built to do. You will never, I repeat NEVER find a self-respecting photographer or videographer show up with this phone, as they'd be laughed off the set. Sure, for photography noobs it is a godsend, but for professionals, there are many much better options. 41MP does not beat all DSLRs in size either..There are higher MP counts; albeit they're expensive, but don't try saying this is the best, as it is FAR from that. NUFF SAID
posted on Jun 19, 2012, 3:12 PM 0
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I'm sorry for you. You still don't get it. Pro photographers, and you are not one of them, use PRO equipment BUT SHOW ME GOD DAMMIT ONE SINGLE PHONE (P-H-O-N-E, not camera) WHICH CAN MAKE AS GOOD PHOTOS AS 808!! You didn't discover anything new dude. it's clear that phone won't be able (not now, but in the non-distant future...) take a shoot as good as pro stand alone cameras. Wow. How long were you thinking about it??? For a phone it's incredibly impressive. Keep looking under the microscope and maybe you will find some differences. For 99% it doesn't matter. End results are jaw dropping. The end.
posted on Jun 20, 2012, 6:17 AM 1
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