Microsoft may or may not update existing handsets to Windows Phone 8

Microsoft may or may not update existing handsets to Windows Phone 8
Earlier today, the webs were flooded with the “good news” that all current Windows Phone handsets will get update to Windows Phone 8, aka Apollo, when it comes out - a rumor coming straight from Microsoft evangelist Nuno Silva. 

It all comes from an hour-long interview, and somewhere in the middle Silva said:

Q: In terms of devices, who today have one is it expectable that...
A: What Microsoft said/stated and what I’m allowed to tell you is that all actual devices will get upgrade to the next major version of Windows Phone (we´re talking about Apollo)
Q: When you say actual devices. Are all that came out to market?
A: Are all that came out. Since the first generation that were bought. The LGs and SAMSUNGs.. OMNIA 7 which were the first devices with Windows Phone reaching the market.

This "all actual devices" part of the extract sounds very definite and specific for all devices, and we can only hope it turns out to be true, but we wouldn’t take it for granted. One reason for that is Microsoft itself. The company officially says that it doesn’t have anything to share with users in regards to its plans for updating first and second-gen Windows Phones:

Additionally, a growing number of insiders claim that older handsets won’t get updated. Sources close to Microsoft have allegedly spoken to various publications like TheVerge and ZDNet, saying that first and second wave Windows Phone gadgets will remain at their pre-Apollo versions.

One thing that is certain and speaks for itself is Microsoft’s silence on the issue. The company has obviously not yet decided whether to allow an update, and if it doesn’t the backlash might turn out to be huge for Windows Phone. What are your expectations, will Microsoft allow older devices to be updated?



1. tigermcm

Posts: 861; Member since: Sep 02, 2009

First why are we even entertaining the lies that come from theverge they hate wp7. 2nd the REAL question is will the carriers push out the update.....

14. MickDM

Posts: 63; Member since: Nov 29, 2011

well said, tigermcm...not to mention who is actually resubmitting the verge article...ijs

2. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

hmm.. most first gen devices run on a 1ghz S2 crapdragon. I wonder if its not powerful enough to stay smooth after the update? Its either that or they want to force upgrade.. but so few people bought the first gen HD7 and Omnia that I cant see that as a viable ideal.

4. tigermcm

Posts: 861; Member since: Sep 02, 2009

last that i remember and i think it was from microsoft is that every device will get wp8 BUT previous gens will not have the FULL wp8 experience

6. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

thats kind of what i expected... take the apple route and give a half upgrade just to say they got it. maybe they are changing their minds about that. so few people got the first wave of WP7 phones, that any perceived "fragmentation" would be pretty minor.

8. tigermcm

Posts: 861; Member since: Sep 02, 2009

to me thats fine if they change their mind with 1st gen because I have the arrive my 2yrs will be about the Sprint decides(crosses fingers) to put out any wp8. like i first posted though we really should worry about the carriers pushing out the update

13. MickDM

Posts: 63; Member since: Nov 29, 2011

i agree here, tigermcm. i had heard the same. makes since...

28. thelegend6657 unregistered

I am very worried now If all wp7 can be updated to Apollo I am sure Microsoft is bragging about it right now but hey look at android . Nexus s ics update slow to be received and buggy while a nexus device launched at the sametime with iPhone 3GS is not getting ics (it even got a 1ghz CPU , wtf ? iPhone 3GS has 600mghz CPU but still manages to see the latest version of ios ! )

5. eaxvac

Posts: 328; Member since: Jan 15, 2012

dont satisfy the trolls from verge, phonearena.

7. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

I don't know... the Verge (Formerly Engadget) is quite sharp with its accuracy, they have criticized every growing OS.

23. shimmyx20

Posts: 280; Member since: Mar 03, 2009

Some people don't like to accept bad news unfortunately. The Verge is an accurate source of news.

15. MickDM

Posts: 63; Member since: Nov 29, 2011

nice research! they forgot to add pa to the list of negative doom-sayers, in particular vh...ijs

9. -RVM-

Posts: 331; Member since: Oct 19, 2011

I have Lumia 800 with 1.4 GHz singlecore CPU and 800x480 display resolution. If this will be not enough for WP8, than what will minimal requirements be ? Remember that Microsoft need to get market share, to get more app developer attention, to get even greater market share. Limiting their offer to dualcore+ and 960x540+ makes no sense. And if 1st/2nd generation WP phones HW will meet WP8 requirements, it would make no sense to not support them.

10. shadowcell

Posts: 300; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

First off Windows Phone 8 hasn't even been released yet. if it was, they would be having a different conversation. Secondly, what major updates would owners with 7.5 would like to see? Support for different resolutions? Multi core support? Too late for that. NFC support? That's a hardware issue first. I see WP8 as what ICS was brought to Android or 4.0 to iOS. They are not segregating anyone, just paving a way for manufacturers to develop better handsets/tablets. I'm sure they'll provide some of the minor features 7.5 owners would like to see in a different upgrade but I don't see the need to treat your Lumia 900 as dead tech and have it returned ASAP.

11. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

I've being saying something similar when it comes to android. its just bound to happen at some point


Posts: 187; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

well i hope they will update lumias in to the upcoming apollo. well my only fear is that for WP to be like apple in a way that it offers update for everyone but the update force the phone to lag or to be sluggish in its performance just like my 3gs.. how i hope it will not. the fact that the all of apps will be usable for the next WP sounds good but im also hoping that the future apps to be make will also be usable in lumias or even the 1st gen WP7. for it would be very unfair if they make apps only applicable to wp8 devices..

16. wendygarett unregistered

jingle bell... jingle bell... jingle all the way... Windows lame... Android sucks... iOS the best!!!

18. eaxvac

Posts: 328; Member since: Jan 15, 2012

Baaaa , says the isheep


Posts: 93; Member since: Apr 17, 2012

Smaaart boy!

17. jibraihimi

Posts: 815; Member since: Nov 29, 2011

Phonearena please don't entertain troll articles from Verge........... They are anti every mobile OS out there, except ios. Verge just want to increase the traffic to it's site by publishing wrong and sensational news, most of which doesn't even have any credible sources........... I remember that Microsoft said at the launch of first gen. WP7, that they are going to support 1st gen devices for at least 2 yrs. so according to that 2 yrs will end with Apollo, so WP users can at least expect to get the Apollo update................ But I doubt carriers or manufacturers will be eager to update the 1st gen. devices to WP8, as this will result in less selling of their WP8 devices...........

19. tigermcm

Posts: 861; Member since: Sep 02, 2009

exactly my point its the carriers we need to wrry about.

22. shimmyx20

Posts: 280; Member since: Mar 03, 2009

The Verge is a credible source of tech news (more so than this site in fact) for all mobile OSes, which you would realize if you actually read their site.

20. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Okay. Is anyone besides me bored of this yet? All 2nd Gen will get Apollo. It would be OS-suicide to not do it. All 1st Gen will get as much of it that will not kill the experience. There were only a small amount of WP's sold, it won't be hard to adjust for the needs. If I am wrong, I will be disappointed enough to switch devices. If I am right- 1st Gen devices will have gotten 3 major upgrades, and 2nd Gen devices will have gotten at least one. That is not a bad record to build your rep on.

21. Penny

Posts: 1860; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

I hope that all devices do get the upgrade. If I were to set minimum standards for hardware, as Microsoft did when they launched WP7, I would plan those minimum standards in a manner that would allow the devices to be upgraded when I release my next update. The only acceptable reason to not supply the upgrade (though still one that might sour some users) is if WP8 is just physically incompatible with previous hardware. This may be the case since they are now focused on unifying their platforms, and WP8 could essentially be a new OS from scratch yet again. It is also a little worrisome that Microsoft hasn't come out and made an official statement about this yet. These are the three possible scenarios I would imagine: A) Previous hardware will not get the upgrade. Microsoft will delay announcement until it starts gearing up marketing for WP8. B) Previous hardware will get the upgrade. Microsoft announces soon to encourage consumers to buy current devices. C) Previous hardware will get the upgrade. Microsoft delays announcement until shortly before competition's major annual releases (iPhone 5). The hope here is to pull attention away from competition, and use the timing as a driving force for more marketing/publicity.

26. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Nice to hear from ya again, Penny. :-)

25. Alistaire

Posts: 132; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Still getting the Lumia 900 today

27. Forsaken77

Posts: 553; Member since: Jun 09, 2011

Microsoft is not in a position to offend ANY of its' WP7 customers. They need to keep as many as possible. At the very least, don't upgrade 1st gen, but 2nd gen definately. Basically, anyone that has a contract going on a WP7 handset should be upgraded.

29. mariosraptor

Posts: 182; Member since: Mar 15, 2012

so just to conclude. if i get a nokia lumia 610 right now, will it get updated to Apollo? and if it gets updated to apollo would this be because you just bought it a few months back and it would telatively new? because if it gets updated with it's low specs then 1st gen and all WP7 devices should be updated too. anyhow, if MS fails to update all current devices to Apollo then i guess that they (Microsoft) are doomed to fall into oblivion just like their previous OS.

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