Microsoft adds Google to law suit against Motorola in Germany

Microsoft adds Google to law suit against Motorola in Germany
We recently told you that Microsoft was taking Motorola Mobility back to court in Germany, looking to get the company to join the other Android manufacturers paying a royalty for a feature on Google Maps. The patent that the Redmond based software giant is claiming that Motorola Mobility is infringing on covers the use of data points from two different sources and overlaying them on top of each other. Other Android manufacturers like Samsung and HTC pay Microsoft to use the patent. Microsoft made $792 million in the second quarter from royalty fees paid by Android manufacturers.

On Friday, Microsoft said that it would add Google to the law suit because Motorola Mobility has said that data important to the case belongs with its parent company. In response, Google says that it would like to "focus on innovation, not litigation." The Mountain View based tech titan says that it will "vigorously defend against any amended complaint Microsoft files."

Germany has not been a major focus at Motorola Mobility and the company recently pulled all but the Motorola Gleam, a featurephone, from its website in the country. Visitors to the site can register to buy the Android flavored Motorola RAZR and Motorola RAZR HD. The company claims that this was a planned move and not related to injunctions won against it by Microsoft and Apple.
source: ChicagoTribune via Electronista



1. Ravail

Posts: 182; Member since: Oct 14, 2011

Can't say Microsoft did a bright move by adding Google's name to the lawsuit, but since they own MM, their in it by default. lol

2. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

It is more a matter of having Google become subject to decisions made by the court. MM stated that materials demanded by MS are in possession of Google, and not MM. The only way MS can compel Google to produce the demanded materials is to add Google to the lawsuit. If Google is successful at avoiding being added to the lawsuit, then MS is basically SOL on getting access to the materials it wants.

3. ilia1986 unregistered

It's all because of Apple! Had they not started suing everyone in the world - Microsoft wouldn't have dared to sue Motorola and Google.

6. darkkjedii

Posts: 30836; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Dude u r soooo wrong on that one. Google infringed on some Microsoft patents, and have been paying Microsoft a licensing fee since 08'. This article isn't even about apple so stop hating ex apple user

11. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Could you shed some light on that claim. The earliest I found of google & microsoft in a patent dispute was from 2010, which was actually micorosft going after android oems. Not saying you're wrong, but I just spent an hour & came up with nothing.

12. nyuvo

Posts: 72; Member since: May 10, 2012

Reference your arguments points or it may as well be a false statement

15. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

+ 3 on what patent of MS is Google infringing? I didn't down-vote you, but I am interested to know which MS patent Google is infringing, much less paying MS a royalty on.

34. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

awesome job posting non-truths, dakkjedi. You are a true follower of Taco and G-KING

4. SvbZero

Posts: 27; Member since: Jun 07, 2012

Instead of pulling an Apple.. maybe MicroTrash should start using its resources to learn how to make their own damn phones!

5. Izzy_V

Posts: 216; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

Agreed. Guess they got butthurt over going down to #3.

16. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

for u especially what ever MS made till today was their own not a copy not a trend but their own stuff android is a trend copy apple is idea theif tell one thing about MS or its produts that is a copy or they made it based on what is the trend of market

41. android4president

Posts: 5; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

Dude for real, I don't understand half of what's in your comment? And saying that Android copied "Apple" makes me think you're stupid... Are you?

7. XPERIA-KNIGHT unregistered

"The Mountain View based tech titan says that it will "vigorously defend against any amended complaint Microsoft files."

8. TheDarkKnight

Posts: 88; Member since: Oct 12, 2012

Stop behaving like apple!

17. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

apple fights over the shapes and copies of iphones MS fights for their stuff being used for free by other companies their is a huge difference

24. MartyK

Posts: 1043; Member since: Apr 11, 2012

The Xbox 360 & 720 violates four Motorola patents. Sound like Sony PS3 is going to overtake MS gaming system :)

26. Zero0

Posts: 592; Member since: Jul 05, 2012

Precisely. It takes more than a genius to come up with the not-at-all-obvious concept of "combining data sets." Google should have thought to check the patent records before doing something so inherently innovative. They deserve more than just a heavy fine.

9. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

Evil empire of 90' s....showing its original face.....

10. Savage unregistered

Why is every company intent on suing the only company which is actually progressing in terms of technology? Patents have only one use- stop development and make money.

14. MorePhonesThanNeeded

Posts: 645; Member since: Oct 23, 2011

Reason is the newer upstart is like a tidal wave of youth and ingenuity that just keeps making things better and aren't stick in the muds. Innovation isn't supposed to be stifled, just look at Apple these guys don't like to lease anything for fear of someone else making their tech better and much more efficient than they do. Cowards. MS just wants to take money because their platform is in the dumps because they decided to release oh so many years ago some half baked OS for mobile phones which could barely do a damn thing but let you use the phone, everything else was horribly gimped(windows Mobile, I'm talking 7 years ago). Data overlay on a map, Ms doesn't even have mapping solutions, this should be looked at as patent trolling, as MS doesn't even use this tech.

35. So-Sayz-Eye

Posts: 31; Member since: Nov 08, 2011

MS Street and Trips. MS had it with one of my first laptops, you needed a gps receiver, but point being microsft had mapping programs in past you had to pay for. I will say that thanks to google, mapquest and others, free online maps became the norm, but fact remains to answer your questions, they did and do have mapping solutions.

13. krimHD

Posts: 106; Member since: May 23, 2012

Apple is surely teaching people all this crap.

18. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

This info coming to light is strange. I asked this the other day....Why would HTC, Samsung and others pay MS for Google Maps infringing on patents...when thats a Google product? I dont think any manufacture altered Google this shoulda been directed at Google from day one. What am I missing? I also said this....its about time what MS has been getting money for has come to light. I have wondered about this for months.

19. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

HTC and Sammy are the ones who are actually selling phones with the infringing functionality. Same logic applies to Apple v. Samsung.

28. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

I have been racking my brain thinking of a help me out.... That explains why in Apple vs Samsung...some stock Android icons were included and they went after the G Nex? If so that make it more clearer to me. Part of whats causing me Oracle didnt go after the OEMs, they went straight for Google. So....should Oracle have gone after HTC, Samsung, etc? I didnt go back and look at the all past lawsuits......its too many to keep track of. One suit I remember is Paul Allen mentioning Apple, Google and others in a lawsuit for their OS's. I dont think its directed at any phone or PC manufactures. Something else came to mind thinking of this reply....wonder if Apple knew about this and thats part of the reason for dumping Google Maps. Apple probably already have a licensing deal in place with Which would be wild...

37. So-Sayz-Eye

Posts: 31; Member since: Nov 08, 2011

My guess is that since google operates in the realm of an open platform, with no actual license fees being paid, that any infringment most falls on the manufacturer, as once they edit the operating system in any way it becomes theirs. That woud be my guess.

21. rusticguy

Posts: 2828; Member since: Aug 11, 2012

In Samsung Vs Apple case in US court, Court had wanted explicit details of all licensing/cross licensing deals between samsung and M$ to be placed on table and both M$ and IBM were running to court desperately trying to stop that. This whole patent office is a SCAM. American patent system has become a joke where guess if M$ or Apple files a patent for how to walk to loo they wil be grabnted one. Ridiculous. They gransted Patent/Trademark for "BASMATI" to some company and i am sure these intelligent lot knew basmati is a rice originationg from Indian Subcontinent. They had to annul when ther was a huge protest. PATENT system is for corporations to RIP Off a customer and avoid entry of new business into market.

22. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012 favourite!!!!!!!

23. rusticguy

Posts: 2828; Member since: Aug 11, 2012

Yes American patent office wanted to kill that by favouring Texas based US company Rice-Tec with the favor so that they can mint money by stealing what has been famous for decades. No one can say USPTO is manned by so illiterate staff that they don't know what basmati is all about. It just shows the evil and corrupt intent ... "I will rob you but if you try even to think of doing it you will be chased to every cornmer of world. That's what both M$ and Apple are doing" sadly ... Ideally all applications for patents should be open for challenge before patent is awarded.

32. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

Where are you from????? US or india??

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