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ITC to investigate Qualcomm's claim against Apple; chip designer seeks import and sales ban

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ITC to investigate Qualcomm's claim against Apple; chip designer seeks import and sales ban
The U.S. International Trade Commission has decided to open up an investigation against Apple. The agency will try to decide whether Apple's use of an Intel modem inside the Apple iPhone actually led it to infringe on some patents that belong to chip designer Qualcomm. Besides investigating a possible patent infringement on the part of Apple, the ITC is reportedly investigating Qualcomm for not offering its standard-essential patents at a fair and reasonable royalty rate.

In a press release issued this evening, Qualcomm said that it is asking the ITC to issue a Limited Exclusion Order to block imports of the iPhone into the U.S. It also seeks a Cease and Desist Order that would prevent sales of certain iPhone models from taking place in the U.S. Qualcomm seeks to block sales of iPhone units that employ broadband components made by Qualcomm rivals.

Within 45-days after the institution of an investigation, the ITC will set a target date for completing it. This could take as long as 16 to 18-months to finish. Before a ban becomes official, it must be signed off on by the president following a 60-day review period. For example, back in 2013 the ITC ordered that several Apple models sold via AT&T be banned from sale in the U.S. These models included the Apple iPhone 3GS, Apple iPhone 4, and the Apple iPad 3.

Had President Obama signed off on the complaint, the ban would have taken effect. Instead, the president vetoed the measure which allowed AT&T to continue to sell the aforementioned models in the U.S.

"Qualcomm is pleased with the ITC's decision to investigate Apple's unfair trade practices and the unauthorized importation of products using Qualcomm's patents. We look forward to the ITC's expeditious investigation of Apple's ongoing infringement of our intellectual property and the accelerated relief that the Commission can provide."-Don Rosenberg, executive vice president, general counsel, Qualcomm

source: AndroidCentral

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posted on 08 Aug 2017, 22:58 5

1. MrShazam (Posts: 292; Member since: 22 Jun 2017)


Hmm, if the ban goes through, the US economy would barely be affected by apple's significant drop in sales considering to store 90% of it overseas, and the patent troll king would be getting the ultimate taste of its own medicine...would be very interesting to see how this patent troll vs patent troll king lawsuit all plays out.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 00:11

4. apple-rulz (Posts: 328; Member since: 27 Dec 2016)


Wow you are a stupid troll, a ban could cost many Apple employees in the USA their jobs.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 02:29 8

6. trojan_horse (Posts: 4930; Member since: 06 May 2016)


"a ban could cost many Apple employees in the USA their jobs."

The iPhone isn't the only product from Apple. An import ban on the iPhone won't make Apple employees lose their jobs in the US, unless the import ban makes Apple go bankrupt.

Besides, MrShazam said: "if the ban goes through, the US economy would barely be affected by apple's significant drop in sales"

He's right!

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 04:34 4

8. vincelongman (Posts: 5068; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Yep, worst case for Apple is that they will have to settle with Qualcomm

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 08:53

11. apple-rulz (Posts: 328; Member since: 27 Dec 2016)


Damn you ARE stupid; The iPhone is Apples main source of income, so it stands to reason if Apple couldn't bring it in to the USA in foreseeable future, layoffs could easily happen, especially at the retail level.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 10:33 3

13. sgodsell (Posts: 4855; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


The one that is stupid is you Apple-rulz. With around 300 billion in the bank. What does that mean for poor Apple? I guess it means they will have to close their door, because they won't be able to pay their electric bills. Are you for real?

Are you that dumb Apple-rulz? You know what, I think you have been using an iPhone too much, and it has turned you into a simpleton. Use some brain games, or better yet use an Android device that will stimulate your brain a little more.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 21:13

17. roscuthiii (Posts: 2241; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


You can't have the "apple-rulz" moniker and seemingly know fu

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 21:26

18. roscuthiii (Posts: 2241; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


Friggin PhoneArena. Somehow snipped off the rest of the post, and now won't let me edit it. It was long, because I'm long-winded and I am not going to rewrite it. But, it explained why jobs are safe for an extended period of time.

*middle finger to you PA*

posted on 10 Aug 2017, 02:57

23. cheetah2k (Posts: 1746; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


I think you'll find Apple's main source of income is iTunes...

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 22:30 1

20. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14501; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Because Apple products have zero effect on US economy.

This versus Samsung who is 25% of its country's GDP.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 04:38 1

10. vincelongman (Posts: 5068; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Didn't hear that when Apple sued Samsung or refused to pay Qualcomm their licensing fee

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 09:06

12. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4783; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


So the company with all that cash on hand can't afford to keep their employees on payroll during a ban?

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 22:29 1

19. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14501; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


For the most part, the phones likely on the list are older models.

So unless they include the 6S and 7, by the time 18 months rolls around it won't matter becajse those pbone wont be in production.

So.i think Qualcomm should not seek a ban this way.

I think they shoukd seek carrier's blocking rh3 device so they dont work on carrier's networks.

posted on 08 Aug 2017, 22:58 1

2. L0n3n1nja (Posts: 523; Member since: 12 Jul 2016)


Trump would never ban an American product manufactured over seas from being imported to the US. Kind of sad an import ban can even happen to an American company in America. Would be impossible to ban the import had they actually been American made.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 11:38

14. tedkord (Posts: 14114; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Well, no. Then it wouldn't be an import.

posted on 08 Aug 2017, 23:25

3. JMartin22 (Posts: 2013; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


Beats me why they would seek a ban on their products in their native country when there’s too much political interest for the ban to be signed and approved by the President of the United States. They’re better off seeking royalties and reparations for any patent violations.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 04:35 2

9. vincelongman (Posts: 5068; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Qualcomm are seeking royalties and reparations
The import ban is just to try add more pressure on Apple to pay/settle

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 11:40 2

15. tedkord (Posts: 14114; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


They're seeking the ban because Apple are refusing to pay the agreed upon royalties, and in fact stopped paying altogether. Royalties and reparations are all QC wants.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 01:09 9

5. zeppo (Posts: 185; Member since: 21 Jul 2015)


Apple infringed Qualcomm patents.
Apple infringed Nokia patents.
Apple infringed University of Wisconsin patents.
Apple infringed Facetime patents and so on ...
And yet people accused Samsung and others OEM's copy/steal Apple design, but where is proof besides rounded corner and rectangular case lol.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 04:07 5

7. iushnt (Posts: 2257; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


Seeing Samsung coming in full force in the market, it was Apple's idea to distinguish itself in the market by portraying itself as the innovator and Samsung as the copier. I would applaud Apple for this move as they successfully implemented it.

However, before Apple and Samsung being competitor, general people least bothered about who copied who. Almost all cars have 4 wheels, a steering wheel and many more common features, but I never heard anyone accusing any car manufacturers as copier.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 14:17

16. domfonusr (Posts: 558; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)


Once again, the question is "who is the bigger bully?" They are both under investigation by either the ITC or the FTC now, and both of them behave like immovable monoliths. I'm waiting to see who breaks first.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 22:36 1

21. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14501; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Apple is going ro lose for one reason.

They signed a contract. As long as their is nothing illegal in the contract they sign, then the court has no choice but to fine Apple guilty.

A ban wont happen. However what will happen is when Apple.loses tbey will have tonpay WC every dime plus legal fees, damages and more.

Them once QC wins, they can also sue every company who didn't pay them as well.

Then +C should refuse to sell anything to Apple no matter how much they are willing to Paul for it.

posted on 09 Aug 2017, 22:40 1

22. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14501; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


All these OEMs can kill Apple very easily.

All they have to do is refuse to sell any parts to Apple at all. This woukd force Apple products off the market and OEMs can fill the void with their own.

But they won't do this because of money, even though they woukd make MORE selling more of their own stuff.

SAMSUNG would sell an extra 100M+ phones, which means Qualcomm woukd also make money because Samsung uses their chips.

Other Android OEMs woukd also sell more phones also with Qualcomm stuff so Qualcomm would make all the same money and more.

None of them need Apple because they existed making products before Apple.

Apple.is onmy gonna make the costs go up because lawsuits cost money and these OEMs will.pass the cost to other OEMs and us as end users.

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