Huawei sues T-Mobile over alleged 4G LTE patent infringement

Huawei sues T-Mobile over alleged 4G LTE patent infringement
Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei is suing T-Mobile in the United States for the alleged violation of 14 patents regarding 4G LTE technology.

Huawei says that it has presented T-Mobile with an IP licensing offer back in 2014, but that the Uncarrier's decisions not to sign a non-disclosure agreement and stall negotiations have forced a court battle. 

Huawei is not pursuing financial damages. Instead, it has asked the court to decide whether or not it has tried to licence its intellectual property at a fair and reasonable rate (FRAND).

If the courts decide that T-Mobile is an unwilling licensee, the decision will probably aid Huawei in its larger court battle against T-Mobile. Back in 2014, T-Mobile sued Huawei for allegedly stealing its phone robot technology. The Magenta carrier's phone-testing robot, called Tappy, simulates human use, allowing the carrier to develop efficient maintenance plans.

The 'Tappy' case is still ongoing, and there are some who suggest that Huawei's new countersuit is likely to lead to some sort of an agreement between the two companies. 

source: Huawei



1. Unordinary unregistered

Can someone enlighten me on how this legal s**t works? The US can't sue Chinese for patent crap but they can to the US?

2. kiko007

Posts: 7493; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

It's complicated lol. Like, really complicated :D.

3. XDAdam

Posts: 276; Member since: Feb 03, 2016

Not even the courts fully understand it.

15. PhoneFixer unregistered

This is DEFO apples work! Bribed tmobile NoT support huawei with 4G! Because usa ppl wants 4g only.. And rooten corrupted government too to stop huwei in usa.. Tmobile usa coward corupted!!

8. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Like I said below, the difference between a free and closed market.

16. firstlady

Posts: 1; Member since: Aug 03, 2016

This is all patent law. The US can also sue Chinese patent like Qualcomm sued Chinese Meizu for its patent infringement. But that depends on who is infringing. In this case, Huawei sued T-Mobile because maybe T-Mobile uses their 4G technologies without any license and making income. And this might happen because I found a study of top 50 companies of 4G around the world. And you know what, Huawei is one of them and there is no T-Mobile in this list. you can go through this link:

4. CableTelcontar

Posts: 89; Member since: Nov 19, 2014

The law is an ass.

5. heyhoa

Posts: 36; Member since: Jul 18, 2014

China is driving a very unfair game for IP s**t. Chinese companies sue foreign companies for IP violation but those companies can't sue Chinese companies because if they do, Chinese government owned media stir up a boycott movement against those foreign brands.

6. DoggyDangerous

Posts: 1028; Member since: Aug 28, 2015

Thats great

7. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

The difference between a free and closed market.

9. Napalm_3nema

Posts: 2236; Member since: Jun 14, 2013

It's just time for Western companies to pull out of the Chinese market for labor and for products. You have a country that never underwent an industrial revolution and was as backwards as any Third World nation just 40 years ago stealing and reverse engineering their way into modernity. Ban their citizens from attending Western universities, set up technology embargoes, and watch them slink back to the Warlord Era.

10. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

They also have quite a chunk of our debt, and probably quite a few other countries as well I'd imagine. Not usually a good idea to tick off someone you owe money to. And with everyone's dependence on their manufacturing industry, it'd take years for companies to move away from China. Hell, Apple said they never would when asked about moving manufacturing back to America. Everything you said sounds like a reasonable thing to do to a country (government) that acts like this, but the realities aren't usually so simple. They've positioned themselves to be essential to much of the world's economy.

12. Napalm_3nema

Posts: 2236; Member since: Jun 14, 2013

It does take time to move manufacturing, but companies have always hopped to other nations as the cost of manufacturing rose or local circumstances became unfavorable. I'm old enough to have seen the China situation play out in Japan and UK-controlled Hong Kong. Neither were nearly as U.S. business/IP hostile, yet we still picked up stakes and moved. SE Asia, India, Indonesia and Malaysia all seem prime places to shift to, since we know those jobs won't come back here. We don't have the workforce and the costs would be prohibitive. Stupid, but it's business reality. As for the debt, other countries have held substantial U.S. debt, and many would love to buy up a bunch of it. China can't do anything, because their economy is too dependent on ours and they can't risk seriously devaluing those debt holdings. It's time to cut them off before their middle class becomes self-sustaining and they hold all the cards. Factor in their real, not reported, debt, which some economists estimate to be a couple of times greater than ours, and the Western world has the leverage to bring into line on respecting IP rights.

14. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

The reason we moved to China was the cheap labor and, at the time, we didn't have these IP wars that we currently have now. As far as where to go, we could go to those places, but that's be a large payout for factories and training. We have the workforce here, but as you said, it's cost prohibitive due to minimum wage and benefits we have here. At the very least, the products costs would increase. Yes and no. China does rely on our economy, but if as you said we pulled up stakes and moved to another country for our manufacturing, then they wouldn't have any choice but to call in our markers. They wouldn't have our manufacturing to drive their economy, so why wouldn't they ask us to pay our debts? That's probably a big part of the reason they're willing to loan us money, we also employ a large portion of their country. The problem is our two economies are a balancing act. They rely on our employer of their citizens and we rely on their cheap labor force and willingness to loan us money. Change it too much and everything could go to hell. It'd be nice if we didn't have to rely on them, but for the present we do. And regardless, I doubt the amount of revenue from these IP wars are enough to warrant moving all manufacturing out of China. And some of those other countries you listed are as bad or worse when it comes to using others IP for their own gain.

11. AnnieChow

Posts: 60; Member since: Jun 28, 2016


13. catze86

Posts: 731; Member since: Dec 07, 2015

I hope T-mobile win. China should taste their own medicine.

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