HTC 10 has IP53 certification: lightly protected from elements, but don't take it in the shower

26. rd_nest (Posts: 1656; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)

It's like saying I have 0.0047% chance of dating Scarlett Johansson. It's still a number, but practically it's useless.

33. aleant36 (Posts: 71; Member since: 03 Feb 2015)

ScarJo! :p

4. darkskoliro (Posts: 1092; Member since: 07 May 2012)

Damn, many flagships must not fall under your usable size then!

6. Jimrod (Posts: 1598; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)

Exactly why I still have an iPhone 6. I use my phone one-handed and even factoring in the large bezels there still aren't many decent options this size or smaller.

12. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)

Actually no. I get what he means. The things I mention below are only meant for my hand size( 5'10" or 178 cm with fairly average hand size for the fairly average height).

Unless the phone is brick thick, the one handed operation depends on the width of the phone. For me personally:

extremely compact, can do everything without even a little bit of juggling.

65-70 mm -> Fairly easy to operate one handedly. Hand gymnastics required for only reaching the top edges.

71-75 mm -> weird zone. Need one hand for some tasks, two for others.

75+ mm -> two handed territory.

Note that 1 mm change in width has a 2mm change in one-handed usability, since the phone grows by 1 mm on back and 1 mm on front.

7. Hyperreal (Posts: 347; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)

as far as i remember iphone 5 users where saying the same back in the day when iphone was 4 inch and somehow they have no problem using a 4,7 inch screen right now. HTC 10 is only 8 mm taller then iphone but has 0,5 inch bigger screen. so dont panic.

9. Jimrod (Posts: 1598; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)

The iPhone 5 is still a better size one-handed, I'm considering the SE but in no rush as contract still has 5 months left. I've tried bigger phones but don't really like them, I've actually got quite big hands but still don't like using the 5"+ type devices much, more likely to drop them. Just personal preference really.

29. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)

Well i mostly used 4.7 to 5.2 device now i tried the moto x play at 5.5 and its a bit too big for me.

5.2 is the perfect size.

For me at least.

22. Wiencon (Posts: 2278; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)

Well, they had not been given any choice really, tell me one compact flagship since iP5S (other than Z Compact)

18. byazatt (Posts: 316; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)

IPhone 6 if more or less the same size as this one

19. Jimrod (Posts: 1598; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)

Not really, I find the iP6 a little awkward and the 10 is larger in every dimension... I'll try one in a shop...

25. zunaidahmed (Posts: 1182; Member since: 24 Dec 2011)

Get a Xperia z5 compact or maybe wait for the smaller version of HTC 10, rumers are that it would be more powerful than this with a snappy 828(823) or something

8. Hyperreal (Posts: 347; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)

I wouldnt mind full waterproofing but it makes speakers sound terrible. IP53 rating seems good enough for occasional water spills and btw, HTC had this rating since one m7 and there are tons of yt videos with m8 beeing fully submerged and surviving it.

11. Shocky (unregistered)

Really? so you've never been caught in the rain? not once?

Water resistance is definitely a welcome feature, so many phones have void warranties for this reason without the users even realizing, it doesn't take a lot to trigger the indicator in phones.

Light rain or even body sweat can do it.

Not a not deal breaker sure, but you don't care? Okay.

13. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)

I have been in even heavy rains with my S4. The phone became wet but I shut it down and turned on a few hours later when it completely dried up. Worked fine.

Most phones have some sort of internal coating to prevent shorting. Did you see the video in which S6 survived 22 min under water, or the iPhone 6s one, or the G3/G4 one. No?

14. Jimrod (Posts: 1598; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)

Yeah, most modern phones have water resistance of some kind designed in, doesn't mean they'll survive a pressure washer or swimming pool but all should be "rain proof" to a large extent. The manufacturers wouldn't want the grief of phones dying all the time in a sweaty pocket or humid bathroom!

17. medtxa (Posts: 1655; Member since: 02 Jun 2014)

For example I want to wash my phone, yeah because its full of germ, smudge and all, two when I want to play with on pool or bath. Yeah.

31. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)

Medtxa then water get in and no warranty coverage is thats better?

If i want to wash my phone if its all metal i simply use some alcohol :) work like a charm.

15. TheDutchGuy (unregistered)

Yes that's true. I use my my S6 regularly when I'm under the shower, not directly under the shower of course, but changing songs with very wet hands and had no problems so far. Also used it in the rain many times, I also have the phone in my sweaty pocket while riding the bike in summer and it's still going strong.

32. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)

The dutchguy.

My moto x play i do exactly the same use it in my shower and bath to read and listen to music and never had any issue..

16. Shocky (unregistered)

Yes, I'm aware of that and I can tell you with certainty the Galaxy S4 has no such coating.

The water indicator may have triggered and your warranty void even if there are no signs of water damage, also water damage doesn't always show itself right away and can lead to serious issues weeks or months later.

If you actually believe all these devices come out of these tests completely unscathed then you are both ignorant and a fool.

21. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)

I know the s4 has no such coating, but the s6 does. Anyway the warranty was over much before the incident.

Anyway, I still don't care since water proofing will add at least 40-50$ to the price of a phone, and I'm unwilling to pay even 1$ for that. I take care of my phones.

23. medtxa (Posts: 1655; Member since: 02 Jun 2014)

50? I think thats to much for waterproffing, then how come galaxy s7 priced lower than s6?

24. tyrionTheWise (unregistered)

Recycled parts. Obviously the same parts get cheaper next year. The screen used is the same panel, camera probably costs lower, and similar for other parts. It costs them around 2-3 $ per phone, but they will definitely price a waterproof phone at least 50$ higher than a non-waterproof one.

Anyway, it's like wireless charging or stereo speakers for me. Nice to have, but won't even pay 2$ extra to get them.

20. medtxa (Posts: 1655; Member since: 02 Jun 2014)

Well once I tried to wipe my phone with wet clothes and the power buton doesn't work for a few days.. Not all phone.

30. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)

Look at post 8 Shocky.

I had the m7 m8 m9 and droped the m9 in the toilet one time its changed nothing at all worked like a charm ( sadly did not fix the crappy camera lol )

As for S7 Shocky if humidity or water get in your warranty is also void.
I had a rugged military phone ( Sonim XP7 ) thats has much better Waterproofing than S7 and water still got in! but lucky me Sonim exchange water damage phone Samsung do not!