HP is experimenting with Android for a successor to the Elite X3, rumor claims
by Kaloyan C. / Aug 11, 2017, 7:14 AM
HP's Elite X3 might just have been the best Windows 10 Mobile device nobody bought. Reasons for this include its considerably high price tag, its focus on the enterprise, as well as possibly its biggest problem: the fact it runs Windows. But even a company as badly mismanaged as HP (hey, remember that time they bought Palm and ran it right into the ground in just a year?) knows when it's got a good idea, and a recent rumor suggests the company is working on a successor.
And that idea is a smartphone that, when connected to a dock, results in a seamless desktop experience, thanks to an augmented version of Microsoft's Continuum. But this likely won't be the case with its successor, though, as today's rumor claims the company is actively experimenting with Android.
This is both good and bad news — the good is that HP is finally abandoning what is clearly a dead platform, but the bad is that similar attempts from other companies (the most recent example being Samsung's DeX) have always suffered from poor, hacky solutions to Android's smartphone-oriented design decisions.
But this experimenting seems to still be in its early stages, so even if an Android-powered HP smartphone does eventually make its way out of the door, it likely won't be in the near future. Plus, the company will likely continue with its enterprise-oriented strategy — a wise decision, given how BlackBerry is now but a shadow of its former self.
That's probably what they should have done from the start. I liked Windows Phone at an earlier point, but it's been a dead OS for quite some time now.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 7:21 AM 8
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Maybe HP should look into dual-booting Android and Windows 10. Run Android on the phone, then when docked it could boot up Windows 10. I don't think this would be that hard to do.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 7:30 AM 7
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Sounds like a great idea. HP would be offering the best of both worlds in with the dual-boot mechanism.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 7:41 AM 2
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Samsung tried that with laptops and tablets. But they couldn't do it because of Microsoft's licences. You can multiboot Android with any OS you like. However if you use Microsoft's Windows, then Microsoft themselves don't allow it to exist with any other OS. Well unless you do it yourself of course. But to buy a premade device with dual OS's on board. Which OS is going to start first? Who is going to be the controlling OS? How do you split the storage? See some of the problems, and there is many more. It's not going to happen, unless Microsoft allows it. Android is ready willing and able, and it even runs on, and supports more hardware than Microsoft's Windows supports.
posted on Aug 13, 2017, 10:18 AM 0
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Hey! there are already plenty of dual boot devices. Look at some Chinese manufactureres such as chuwi or teclast. The problem is that windows can't run on ARM processors which are commonly used in mobiles. Microsoft allegedly works on version of windows 10 supporting the ARM architecture tho.
posted on Aug 13, 2017, 11:25 AM 0
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It's true. Happened 2 years back, all main stream hardware OEM has stopped producing Dual Boot device due to licensing restriction.
This also affects Intel plan to continue their Atom line SOC investment. Well, it's Intel turns to threaten Microsoft on their ARM to x86 translation investment. So what's goes around does comes around.
posted on Aug 13, 2017, 8:51 PM 1
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That's precisely what I've been wishing for from the Note 8 ever since Samsung had this patent: https://mspoweruser.com/samsun
Makes perfect sense as a replacement for their DeX software, especially with Windows 10 on ARM just around the corner.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 12:30 PM 0
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This is awful that HP is ditching Windows in favor of poorly made, adware filled software. In all fairness why anyone would have an Android phone is beyond me. If I didn't have an iPhone then I would go with Windows phone. Reason is simple, it's all about privacy. Google collects and sells your data, they also don't put much effort into watching over the Play Store. 99% of the time 1000s and sometimes millions of users get infected before Google pulls the app. Also while some point out Google gives you the option to "opt out" of data collection, Google has proven time and again they're willing to break the law (they drove around in vans collecting wifi passwords at one point) and even their own ToS means nothing to them. They also give as vague of details as to all the data they actually collect and how they use it (they even added collecting some identifiable data collection without informing users). Case in point with vague details is recently the EFF filed a lawsuit against Google to make Google explain in detail how they know which people clicked on an ad also made a purchase in a physical store. Yes if you click on an ad at say Home Depot and then go buy that product from a physical Home Depot store, Google knows it. Google merely says it's basically based by chance that they go by how many times the ad was clicked on and divide it from actual sales, but that really doesn't explain much, considering not everyone who buys a product from that store first clicks on ads on Google. So for them to know that much means they know more than they're willing to share with the public.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 7:49 AM 1
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you have a great imagination and apple is an honest company that looks into the best interest of their customers. don't forget to buy that private Home SIRI they're about to release, i am sure it will respect your privacy not like Google Home or Alexa.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 8:13 AM 5
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I really wish Nadella hadn't taken over at MS. Balmer wasn't perfect, but he was at least trying to advance the platform. Nadella has been effectively killing it. They keep saying they're going to put out the next big thing in mobile, but they don't think it will be the smartphone form factor. Well guess what, idiot: If you can't get the current big thing right, why would we trust you to get the next big thing right?
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 7:59 AM 0
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I will say this: Cortana on W10M is hands down the best hands-free (see what I did there?) setup of anything I've used. Hook it up to a bluetooth speaker in your car, and you will not have to ever look at your phone for anything. IT JUST WORKS, and I wish you could replace Google Assistant completely with Cortana. I would LOVE that.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 9:21 AM 0
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I know this has been beaten to death but I think of all the meetings Nokia had with Google and MS and if the board of Nokia would have over ridden Elop's decision and gonna with Android. I really believed that Samsung would be the second place manufacture ( in the Android mobile space) time right now as Nokia would have been the top phone manufacture constantly pushing the envelope with camera, Modem, design etc.. aspects of the phone. I know it is a a big "what If" but I can stop wondering why Nokia did not see what Elop was planning and the board did not react fast enough to stifle it. oh well.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 8:57 AM 0
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Welcome HP to android.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 9:43 AM 3
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Android desktop solutions are 0 for 2. Sentio (aka Andromium) is/was a calamity and DeX was not much better. Not being able to use the phone while docked is a non-starter. Continuum, for all its detractors, worked right out of the box. It's far from perfect but it does exactly what it's supposed to do with no muss, no fuss.
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 11:35 AM 0
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Even die-hard windows and apple fanboys know DeX is far better refined than what Continuum for phone has ever achieved, why so in denial: https://www.windowscentral.com
Using the phone in DeX is simply a phone window away. Only thing that'll be better is to have the full Windows 10 on ARM in place of the DeX software, or better yet, a sub-part of it as Samsung patented:
posted on Aug 11, 2017, 12:46 PM 1
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This reminds me that this is not the first time that the same device already released with an OS is released with another: ► HTC released the One M8, and later the One M8 for Windows ► LG launched the Lancet, and later, the Lancet for Android ► Alcatel launched the Idol 4s and later the Idol 4s with Windows (Idol 4 Pro)
posted on Aug 13, 2017, 2:53 PM 0
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