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Galaxy S7 is the first phone with Dual Pixel autofocus, here's what it means

posted by Daniel P. / Feb 23, 2016, 3:46 AM

Galaxy S7 is the first phone with Dual Pixel autofocus, here's what it means

We couldn't help but wonder why did Samsung move from the already blazing fast phase-detection autofocus (PDAF) to an obscure Dual Pixel technology on the newly-announced Galaxy S7 and S7 edge. Not only is the 12 MP camera sensor a radical departure from the megapixel rat race we've seen on flagship phones for a few years now, but the whole camera module is brand new, with 56% bigger individual pixels, compared to he S6, and this Dual Pixel focusing for the first time in a phone.

So, what exactly will this new focusing tech bring that PDAF couldn't? Phase detection is better than the widespread contrast detection as it only has to take one measurement from opposite sides of the lens to figure out where to, and how far a lens has to be moved to achieve focus, for instance, making the whole focusing process quicker. PDAF does that by having up to 10% of the total number of pixels equipped with "focusing" photodiodes (Apple even calls them Focus Pixels), and dispersing them strategically throughout the sensor area. How about multiplying even that speed, and adding more accuracy to the mix, too?

This is what the Dual Pixel sensor on the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge is trying to achieve, as it employs two photodiodes for every single pixel, so instead of 5-10% of the pixels being used for focusing, a 100% of them will now. The implications for focusing speed and accuracy are huge, especially with moving objects, live footage, or in low-light scenarios, and we can't wait to grab a bite, and clash Samsung's new Dual Pixel AF system with Sony's fresh Predictive Hybrid Autofocus on the new Xperia X-series.

source: Samsung

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61 Comments

1. BradyCrack

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 29, 2015

I want better lowlight detail, not night vision (though pretty damn cool).

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 3:53 AM 4

5. Shocky unregistered

Faster focusing will help in lowlight as well.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 4:01 AM 23

14. neops

Posts: 297; Member since: Jan 28, 2014

That video doesn't show the difference in autofocusing speed, only low light efficiency difference. Still, it's very fast http://tinyurl.com/gnb3df4

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 4:31 AM 17

29. rd_nest

Posts: 1656; Member since: Jun 06, 2010

Check this for low light test: http://phandroid.com/2016/02/22/samsung-galaxy-s7-vs-s6-vs-iphone-6s-low-light-camera-comparison-video/

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 5:23 AM 5

44. srk_s_rao unregistered

Need more control over the camera.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 6:07 AM 1

30. rd_nest

Posts: 1656; Member since: Jun 06, 2010

S7 vs G5 camera comparison: https://hi-tech.mail.ru/news/samsung-galaxy-s7-lg-g5-camera-compare/

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 5:24 AM 8

49. TerryTerius unregistered

I will forever love Google for auto translate. That aside, that is a noticeable difference. I don't think the gap will be quite as significant once everything is finalized and the Phones go on sale, but the s7 photos look better hands down.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 7:31 AM 4

50. johanbiff

Posts: 415; Member since: Mar 31, 2015

damn, the S7 killed the G5

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 8:00 AM 7

53. j2001m

Posts: 3060; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

I be thinking it do big time damage even in 16:9 mode, I be thinking clear images but you may not get the zoom of the 4:3, but it be a good mode to deal with the lg G5 wide mode,

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 9:26 AM 0

62. Trex95

Posts: 2320; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Nice S7 camera takes nice photo especially after changed the ratio to 4:3 instated of 16:9. But I noticed some pinkish especially at hand photo doesn't look natural like G5 photo?!.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 11:22 AM 0

2. Shocky unregistered

Great feature.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 3:54 AM 11

37. S.R.K.

Posts: 678; Member since: Feb 11, 2016

No need for that gimmicks. Why not Xenon flash and optical zoom.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 5:43 AM 3

64. medtxa

Posts: 1655; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

flash make picture look not natural. obviously

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 5:15 PM 1

65. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Yeah we get it, everything samsung makes are gimmicks.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 8:12 PM 0

3. w1000i

Posts: 235; Member since: Jul 22, 2015

PDAF is mind blowing fast and I can't see how much this faster

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 3:56 AM 2

42. TerryTerius unregistered

From what I can see from a few videos about it and having owned the S6 edge, the S7 seems to be nearly instantaneous. I wouldn't venture to say it is twice as fast as the S6, but it's close to that.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 5:58 AM 2

4. Tarox

Posts: 114; Member since: Feb 17, 2015

awesome technology that samsung is delivering here. S6 camera is still one of best in class if not for most shots best in class and they are already stepping up the game by a big amount.... crazy guys in their photo department

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 4:01 AM 3

6. TyrionLannister unregistered

What a waste of R&D. Auto focus was already fast enough. They could have fit a bigger or better sensor than the abomination that's in the s7.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 4:01 AM 9

8. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

Well it looked quite a bit faster then auto focus in the presentation at least. I think you're being a bit too harsh on Samsung just because they didn't put the rumored sensor size but that's how rumors are. Lets wait and see how it actually turns out in a review from independent reviewers. So far its looking good to me and a significant improvement over S6 which was pretty good to begin with. I think there might be a good enough reason why Samsung didn't put the rumored sensor as its unlike Samsung to not include the absolute latest and greatest in their flagship.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 4:08 AM 25

11. TyrionLannister unregistered

It's not about rumors. It's about them putting lower sensor size than 6 month old phones. On most phones, auto-focus takes much less than 0.5 seconds. Making that 0.1 or even 0 won't make that much of a difference.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 4:15 AM 1

16. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

hmmm.....that's fair but we both are shooting in the dark when we say why Samsung hasn't included the bigger sensor. It could very be Samsung trying to cut cost or any other technical reason but like I said its unlike Samsung. Anyway, noob here but could the bigger aperture size have affected the sensor size.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 4:36 AM 2

22. TyrionLannister unregistered

I don't think so. Let's wait and see how the camera turns out. My guess is that it will be better than competition, but not by much. That's where I have issues as this phone can get destroyed later this year by new nexus/iPhone.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 4:54 AM 2

34. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

Looking at the iPhone's camera of the past few generations their improvements have been pretty small. So I am not too hopeful. As for Nexus, even 6P with its 2.3 sensor was only able to perform better then S6 during low light scenarios only and S7 has made quite a significant improvement at least for low light scenarios. So I am not so sure even a sensor size of Nexus would've made a significant difference. You might say its because of Samsung's image processing but as Macready said it might as well be because increase aperture to f1.7. You might be right when you talk about the competition exceeding but I think you're overestimating the competition looking at the history.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 5:29 AM 3

39. TyrionLannister unregistered

S7 should beat Nexus 6P easily. The difference in pixel size is not much, Samsung easily makes up for more than that in aperture, lens quality, OIS and much superior software. As I said, the current competition shouldn't be much of a challenge. It's high time for iPhone to improve optics. They are lagging behind too much. And Nexus was good in 2015. So I expect them to up their game this year.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 5:48 AM 0

51. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

Done a bit of digging (not much to do in lunch break. Moriarty's dead so life's pretty boring now) and actually think Macready might be correct here. Phones generally having larger sensor are sacrificing on aperture. PA had done an article on phones with biggest sensor a while ago and none with bigger sensor had aperture as wide as S7's. They have listed the aperture in the article as well. Check it out: http://www.phonearena.com/news/These-are-the-smartphones-with-the-largest-camera-sensors-on-the-planet_id64702

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 8:40 AM 0

52. TyrionLannister unregistered

I guess you're right. Then again, super large apertures are not very good alternative to large sensors. Large sensors are better at everything(except cost and compactness), while larger aperture can have disadvantages like edge softness and aberrations. Though I'm sure Samsung has taken care of those issues. Let's wait and see. But it sure murders almost all cameras right now.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 9:03 AM 0

54. j2001m

Posts: 3060; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Mate you also got the cam case thing to upgrade the cam even more if needed

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 9:31 AM 0

57. TyrionLannister unregistered

that just gives us wide angle or zoom capabilities. It doesn't improve quality of image. It's kinda like the gimmick of G5. I don't care about wide angle.

posted on Feb 23, 2016, 9:39 AM 0

19. Macready

Posts: 1798; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

In low light, it can actually take seconds on most phones. This is where the S7 made leaps. The faster lens helps it gather as much light as some competitors with slightly larger sensors. In that sense, going from f1. 9 to f1. 7 makes a larger difference than going from 1/2.6“ to say 1/2.3".