Despite "weak" demand for new Apple iPhones, some models are now shipping late

Pre-orders for the Apple iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max kicked off today in the U.S. starting at 5 am PDT/8 am EDT. According to Seeking Alpha, at least one analyst says that demand for the new "Pro" models has been weak. Rosenblatt's Jun Zhang, after speaking with retailers, told clients that "there is no wait time today for the iPhone 11 Pro and Max." As a result, Zhang forecasts that initial sales of the higher-priced iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max could be as much as 20% to 30% lower than sales initially generated by last year's iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max.

Sales in the world's largest smartphone market could also be weaker than expected; the lack of 5G support for the new iPhones is apparently having a negative impact on demand in China. Online retailer says that pre-orders for the "more affordable" iPhone 11 model have totaled about 500,000 today which is 44% lower than the 900,000 in reservations it rang up last year for the iPhone XR.

Despite Zhang's comments, there are some models that are now scheduled to be delivered later than the original September 20th launch date. As of 3:45 pm EDT in the U.S., Verizon reports that new orders for the iPhone 11 Pro with 256GB of storage will now arrive on September 27th while the 512GB model is now scheduled to be delivered on October 9th. Certain iPhone 11 Pro Max models are now shipping later from Verizon with the 64GB model in Space Gray expected to arrive on September 27th. The Silver and Midnight Green versions of the 256GB variant will now be delivered on September 27th.

Over at AT&T, the 512GB iPhone 11 Pro in Silver will now arrive between October 7th and October 14th. At Sprint, the 256GB iPhone 11 Pro in Gold ships between October 4th and the 11th. Also delayed is the 64GB iPhone Pro Max in Midnight Green, which will also ship between October 4th and October 11th. The 512GB unit in Space Gray ships between September 27 and October 4th.

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1. nikhil23

Posts: 444; Member since: Dec 07, 2016

Well..We all know that Apple creates fasle hype that phones are selling out fast

2. DolmioMan

Posts: 332; Member since: Jan 08, 2018

Do we really all know that or is it something you made up because you don’t understand how shipping dates work?

33. sgodsell

Posts: 7375; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Apple has called wolf to many times. So yeah, the hype and propaganda is always thick from Apple.

3. AnTuTu

Posts: 1613; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

I guess even Apple's loyal customers have started to understand that they are pretty much getting the same phone every year.

4. Well-Manicured-Man

Posts: 688; Member since: Jun 16, 2015

That’s nonsense. Even though it is undeniable that Apple could have done more for this year‘s iPhones, it’s not like that there is huge innovation offered by any OEM right now.

8. shawman

Posts: 61; Member since: Sep 18, 2012

Asus rog phone 2 looks awesome. 120hz OLED screen, 240hz touch screen response, 6000mhz and no notch phone. Even One Plus 7 pro went with 90hz screen. So there is innovation happening. Just that Apple is very conservative.

17. Vokilam

Posts: 1205; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Do they all have face id equivalent? Do they have haptic touch? Do they have iMessage, do they get timely updates, do they have brick and mortar stores for customer support? Do they have continuity with tablets and computers? Yes I would love to have a 120hz screen like on the iPad (the first device to offer it). But I have to have iOS ecosystem. Forcetouch controls, Face ID, Apple Cash sent via text message. Fingerprint scanners don’t work for me for half the day - while I’m at work, I wear gloves, fingers have dirt, sweat and caulk on them. Face ID solved a long ongoing problem for me - and no iris scanner takes too long, yet Face ID has a much wider angles for unlocking the device. Sorry man, it’s not 2 or 3 spec numbers that make up a phone for me - it’s the entire ecosystem and how the phone works with all of it.

19. peschiera

Posts: 28; Member since: Sep 17, 2017

It is good that Face ID works for you. But for others the IRIS scanner works better and for others the good old FPS. And please, do not repeat buzzwords from Apple, for instance the Haptic Touch. It was either on Galaxy S2 or S3 where you pressed longer on an object, for instance in the gallery and you got an haptic feedback when it was marked. Samsung never gave a name to it just because it was so ridiculously simple and not worth mentioning it. Apple failed with 3D touch and is now pretending to have something new instead of just admiting that the solution others has been offering for a while was better. You wrote so much but failed to mention anything for which there is no equivalence for instance on a Galaxy flagship. I probably will never understand why Apple users fool themselves so much. Just say you like iPhones more and it is good. But do not try to justify it with Apple buzzwords.

30. Bankz

Posts: 2548; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

So what you are effectively saying is that iPhone customers are getting what they already had over 2 years ago? What he is saying is that other oems are bringing new things to the industry one way or the other. For instance, the pixel 4 with motion sense, 90hz display, computational photography and even a 3d face unlock. Most of those things are either unparalleled in the mobile industry or in the Android space. Now that's a proper upgrade.

31. blingblingthing

Posts: 965; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

"Do they have continuity with tablets and computers? " Is anyone really impressed with this? I don't think ANYONE has an issue with any of their documents or pictures considering that Google's 15 gb should cover all your cloud needs. You can start your documents on one device, continue on so many others all in the browser. Not because Apple has a name for it made it new or first.

40. wickedwilly

Posts: 698; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

All the things you mention are on Android devices in one form or another. Most Apple copied from Android. Specs are an important part of any products, not all but important none the less. Only Apple fanboys who are insecure and secretly crave all the features that nearly always come Android users way long before they get say specs do not matter. Android has an ecosystem too, one that in many ways is better than Apples. It is a better balance, than Apples all out control version that comes with far too many downsides for most people.

67. ninjaunmatched

Posts: 4; Member since: Mar 25, 2015

? All of that stuff you just listed are reasons why Apple should be innovating more. Basically more revenue streams. I will say this though. Sad day when someone uses Apple's ecosystem as a selling point. You are definitely not a tech person. No way you can be & say that. Techs can use Apple all day & defend it.....I have never heard one use the Apple Jailhouse honestly as a selling point. Besides there are many complaints even with that, one involving syncing issues. I can go and on. You have only limited yourself by dependent on those things. I can go on about a million other things my Note 9 can top all of that. Dirty hands only needs a phone with a certain type of screen to get around that obstacle.

72. riteshrkm

Posts: 157; Member since: Apr 15, 2015

What U r talking man? iPhone can't do a simple Multitasking which Samsung have been doing since S6. What innovation U are talking about. Get a Picture in Picture equivalent first If U can!

34. CreeDiddy

Posts: 2206; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

iPad Pro had 120Hz screen refresh 3 years ago. Nothing new, just because its on a "Android" phone doesn't make it innovative. The smartphone features year to year have reached critical mass. I'm not hating on it, but iOS has been amazingly smooth experience without the 120Hz refresh rate. Asus Rog? Laughing, cracking up, rolling on the ground with laughter. This phone is absolutely is no where to be found and not even relevant and shouldn't be in the same sentence as "iPhone". No one cares about this phone. You are grasping at straws to make an argument that is simply irrelevant to a mass of buyers.

35. TadTrickle

Posts: 59; Member since: Apr 08, 2019

I love Android. Innovation is stagnant across the board

46. mackan84

Posts: 471; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

Well if you’re comparing 90hz/120hz screens with iPhone why not with Samsung?

21. AnTuTu

Posts: 1613; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

Really? No innovation from other OEMs? Either you aren't a tech enthusiast or you're only looking at your beloved fruit company.

37. sgodsell

Posts: 7375; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

That is so not true. Clearly you haven't been looking at what the other OEMs are curretly offering, or what they are going to offer very soon. There is foldables from Samsung, LG, and Huawei. The Android OEMs have been adding depth sensor cameras as well as ToF cameras, both of which is missing iPhones. Android OEMs are the only one that offer finger print scanners and even under the screen finger scanners. Android OEMs have been using wide angle cameras since 2013. Plus Android smartphones added more ram, and more base storage. When Apple sent out that "Innovation Only", well we all know that was false. Because even you admit that Apple could have done more. Everyone knows that.

50. mackan84

Posts: 471; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

Do the market really need more $2000 dollar foldables when the $1000 dollar smartphones don’t sell? And what exactly does the ToF/depth sensors do that is popular? Everything you mention as innovating HW needs popular SW to even become the next thing.

68. XyAzario

Posts: 46; Member since: Mar 15, 2019

LOL bra, you forget that the S Fold is sold out in South Korea and is sold at a premium on the black market.

74. mackan84

Posts: 471; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

And please tell me if these sold out foldables are in the millions because then it’s something that is selling great.

43. rOHAN287

Posts: 15; Member since: May 06, 2016

Innovation itself is not sufficient to sell a product now a days. Value is what sometimes or most of the times matter. Just for Eg Force touch was one of the key features when it was released, seeing this other oems replaced it with long press which solved the purpose. And now Apple removed that feature from 11 series phone's.

63. Plutonium239

Posts: 1217; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

Long press existed long before "force touch".

64. Alex_12

Posts: 52; Member since: May 30, 2018

Actually there will be a huge innovation coming from Google Pixel 4.

66. ninjaunmatched

Posts: 4; Member since: Mar 25, 2015

There is plenty innovation going on among many manufacturers right now. You should take some time to simply watch tech reviews on YouTube

44. miketer

Posts: 520; Member since: Apr 02, 2015

Somebody has to wake up and make a strong point regarding the storage capacities, jumping from 64 to 256gb. This is daylight robbery. Naturally you can't live with 64gb nowadays, so your forced to go on to to 256. That's daylight robbery That's very cheap of Apple to do it to their customers. That's a very cruel way of making money....and nobody's talking about it.

24. Phullofphil

Posts: 1797; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

I reluctantly got one. But that being said wether this is true or not (I forgot and ordered one 45 minutes after 5 and I have a wait time at the beginning of October) this is the season to make up arrivals as click bait. I don’t think this phone will sell as good as last year but it just as well could. This artical is making s**tty assumptions. If you don’t like the iPhone at all that’s fine. This is not that much of an improvement but it is still an awesome phone. I will assum this will get all the Apple hating trolls on the bandwagon of believing anything negative that is against Apple and anything positive will be PhoneArena bull crap.

49. scarface21173

Posts: 692; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

Still very expensive in the uk £729 or $910 for the basic iphone 11.

70. rkoforever90

Posts: 445; Member since: Dec 03, 2011

true i thought they will price it 599 or 649 max but 729 is a bit high

52. tbreezy

Posts: 34; Member since: Aug 11, 2019

Their profit margins say otherwise, as they continue to rise and iPhone XR and XS Max are top sellers. Can you name one Flagship Android selling XS Max numbers?

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