Current Windows Phone handsets to get Apollo update after all?

Current Windows Phone handsets to get Apollo update after all?
Before you read a single word of the latest rumor, allow us to remind you that last time we checked, Windows Phone 8 was not meant to land on current WP7 devices. And supposedly, that information came from a trustworthy source at Microsoft who spoke with Paul Thurrott – a respected news editor for Windows IT Pro magazine. 

Yet now, we have a "trusted source" at Waggener Edstrom who claims that Microsoft is working on "Windows 8 (for x86), Windows RT (for next-gen ARM), & Windows Phone 8 (for current-gen phones)." For those not familiar, Waggener Edstrom has been Microsoft's public relations firm since the mid-1980s, and chances are that people who work there are well aware of what is going on at Microsoft headquarters. In addition, the same source claims that further leaks in support of their words will surface in the very near future, and an official statement on the matter will come within the following weeks. 

In less than a month's time we have the Windows Phone Developer Summit kicking off. Hopefully, that is when we will finally know for sure whether Windows Phone 8 will run on today's WP handsets or not.

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105 Comments

102. NateAdam8

Posts: 439; Member since: Feb 17, 2012

Even if current WP7.5 devices don't get the update somebody will hack them to a the point where it can, They hacked a lot of phones to get updates like the HTC HD2 running WP7.5 and they hack HTC HD2 & HD7 to run Android so if people want it bad enough somebody will hack it

98. eyephone

Posts: 69; Member since: Apr 05, 2012

Been Ios is much better than Windows. Way to restricted.

93. Credo

Posts: 749; Member since: Apr 19, 2012

i just used the Nokia Lumia 610, i expected it would lagg, but nothing! works as smootly as all the other Windows Phones, Even with Tango pre installed, 800 mHz, it still works so fine, great device, but 250 euro's is to much :) please Nokia increase your prices :) :) :)

96. TROLL.ISAHA

Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

Nokia soon to join BB down the road. Nokia always had crap hardware! They make cheap rubbish phones. Only 2 high end and the rest of the range rubbish......

104. iMaWP7

Posts: 1; Member since: May 25, 2012

Nokia has honestly not had an OS to give a crap about. Seeing the technological coo they had, give them a year. The Lumia 900 has a Carl Zeiss lense with a 1.5 Dual Core processor. So your comment stands null. Not that I'm standing up for Nokia, because HTC is my sup of tea. Dammit I bet my HTC Trophy can out run your phone easy, and in almost every aspect. cy@

97. TR0LL

Posts: 41; Member since: May 20, 2012

Already 5 thumbs down hahahahaha! L610 is cheap junk.... 256 ram that's bogus. No Flash. Cheap silverlight. Can't run skype. U can't browse or open 3 Tabs in dolphin browser force close....

99. Credo

Posts: 749; Member since: Apr 19, 2012

haha, you guys just can't accept that windows phone runs VERY GOOD with 'crap hardware', and wauw 6 thumps down, even if you gave me thousands of thumbs down, Windows Phone is still the best OSin my eyes and i love it the way it is

89. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

lol i see comment war all day but today its Thumb up/down war here hahahahaha

81. frydaexiii

Posts: 1476; Member since: Dec 01, 2011

Wait, isn't Windows 8 Apollo? The same OS that is going to run on PCs and tablets? So you're telling me that they are going to stuff an entire PC OS into that tiny single core phone? Seems Legit

88. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

no, there will be 2 versions. Full W8 for PC and intel based tablets, and W8-RT for ARM based tablets and smartphones. The RT version wont have desktop compatibility and a few other things that are required of much higher end hardware.

79. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

What the hell are they feeding the WP fans nowadays? You guys hit 3% of the marketshare and just went apesh*t like WP7 just took the number one spot and started talking all kinds of "Fandroid this and Fandroid that". Even when we complement WP7 you guys are still attacking. Ever since Michael did the "Switching from Android to Windows Phone" articles, you guys have been on a unwarranted holy war against anything involving Android. Were you guys just feeling left out of the flame wars of Android vs iOS? If your goal is to out crazy some of the iOS fanboys, you guys are well on your way.

78. Bluesky02

Posts: 1439; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

@ehas423 Me too, I like Android. But their fans are childish, nerdy and annoying.

70. 7thspaceman

Posts: 1597; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

folks i had a feeling that some Present day 2nd generation Windows 7.5 mango smart phones would get the update to Windows phone 8 smart phone OS. especially Nokia Lumia 710, 800 and 900. because Nokia wants to sell cheaper model Windows 8 smart phone models, The single core Nokia Windows phone 8 Nokia Lumia 900 will sell much cheaper than a Higher tech Nokia Windows Phone 8 model with a Dual core CPU, NFC and High def display screen, 16 mega pixel pure view camera and other high tech components. Folks please take note that some of the best high Tech Android smart phones and the Iphone 4S cost well over 550 dollars. I think a single core CPU Nokia Lumia 900 with Windows Phone 8 would still be worth buying if it would cost a person 150 too 300 dollars less to own than a Nokia lumia 1000 with windows phone 8 which may cost 600 to 850 dollars

63. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

I think the backlash from the first news scared the hell out of Microsoft, especially since they had been making fun of Android for slow update rollouts. As I say, better to get a slow update than no update! Remains to be seen what Microsoft will do though. Hopefully we'll get official confirmation one way or another.

65. Penny

Posts: 1877; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

Yeah, holding off my reaction until an official announcement is made. I stated this previously in another article, but if Microsoft is in fact going to upgrade current WP7 devices, this is how I would control the announcement: 1) Either announce early on (soon) to encourage customers to continue to buy current devices (and hopefully build up a little bit of momentum before the rumors and announcements start for the iPhone5), OR 2) Announce shortly before announcements are made by Apple for the release of the iPhone5, with the intention of hopefully stealing a little bit of the spotlight.

66. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Agreed. That would be the smart business decision. Unfortunately, with Ballmer in charge, I don't know if that will happen. The guy is a waste of space.

87. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

hes not nearly as bad as others. MS as a whole is doing quite well under him, so give him a little credit.

46. ehas423

Posts: 18; Member since: May 24, 2012

I've always liked android but its the fans that annoy me. They'll bash every competing OS out there like it'll be the end of the world if they don't. *sigh Why can't we be civilized with this issue? And yes ifans you too.

56. TROLL.ISAHA

Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

Fandroids are on the next-level....

76. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

No, lol. I'm not bashing WP at all. I'm able to see that WP has just begun and still needs some work. Even for a beginning platform, however, it has done excellently and I give Microsoft a pat on the back. Ugh. Don't feel like explaining this again. Read my last comment about WP.

90. ehas423

Posts: 18; Member since: May 24, 2012

Well I wasn't referring to ALL of you. The trolls are the ones I'm most annoyed with. Which comment though? the one about the "101 things.."? nahh didn't really affect me that much. It's the over all user experience that counts. It does what I wants and needs. As far as I'm concerned I'm happy with it. And trust me almost half of those aren't even true.

100. TROLL.ISAHA

Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

True right said agree....

44. snowgator

Posts: 3630; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Mind if I approach this from a common sense, business point of view? Updates are based on 2 things- comparable hardware and the carriers involved. Dispute our preferences, we can all agree Nokia is the most important WP manufacturer. (It was Nokia's desire for an entry level, cheap device for emerging markets that lead to MS developing Tango which is rumored to have been part of the reason WP8 was pushed from a possible summer release to a fall release, so yeah they have stroke with MS.). As deep of trouble as Nokia is, there is no way- none- that Nokia can afford their Lumia series to suffer flat Summer sales due to not getting this upgrade. The fact it is a different kernal has nothing to do if it can work on single processers. It is how it is written. There are single core ICS Androids coming out. Like I have written before about my Samsung Focus S- it will not instantly become hi def screen, nor will it's game processor become as good as WP 8 devices, so yes there will be aspects that will not work once it happens. But that is true of every OS upgrade to older devices. Next, the carriers. How many devices are we talking here? AT&T and T-Mobile in the US would be busy, but as you look at the major carriers in all the other countries, how many have more than 2 WPs? Throw in the fact that the hardware is basically the same from device to device, and how much work will it be to approve the upgrade? Not meaning to slam Android, but it is the skins and the dozens of different hardware setups that cause carriers headaches. I know PA said that poor sales may mean no upgrades, but I see that the Luminas are selling well, and both Titans and the "S" sold enough to be profitable. Throw in the fact that MS wants to show that they will support these devices to give consumers reason to try them out, I do not see how they can afford to not do it, despite the cost or inconvenience to do it. They are trying to rebuild a brand. I will accept that 1st Gen WP devices may not be worth the hassle. I believe they should get it, but we will see. I firmly believe that 2nd Gen devices will get it.

64. Penny

Posts: 1877; Member since: Feb 04, 2011

Reasonable assessment snow. Although, as somebody with a first gen WP7 (HTC Trophy on Verizon), I do hope we get the update. I don't really see why a second generation device would be that much better suited for the upgrade, considering the difference in hardware specs between first and second gen devices is not enormous. I do believe, from the perspective of a brand trying to rebuild its image, that Microsoft should not even consider not providing the update to current WP7 users, as they are the early adopters that will probably show the most loyalty with future products. Even if they have to delay the release of WP8 to figure out how to get it to current devices, it's worth it; there's nothing like screwing up your impression/image with customers. Going one step further, it would actually be a huge selling point for them if they show that kind of support to potential customers. With the iPhone5 coming out around the same time as W8/WP8, an announcement that all current WP7 devices will get upgraded to WP8 would be a great way to steal a little bit of the spotlight from the iPhone5.

77. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

Yeah. Windows 8 is going to be a big deal (as in, have a lot of new features), and first generation devices will probably not support it due to lack of better hardware. But phones like the Lumia will get it. Nice comment.

42. Roomaku

Posts: 278; Member since: Feb 06, 2012

Man the Android fans really like hitting that thumbs down button.

55. TROLL.ISAHA

Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

We do.....

75. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

Only when someone posts a retarded comment that says "LOLOL ANDROID LAGS HURR."

23. TR0LL

Posts: 41; Member since: May 20, 2012

Wow lots of thumbs down already...... Looks like Fandroids are not liking this......

74. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

Lol, I'd actually like it if WP got updated to Apollo. It would be cool to see a Lumia 900 with Windows 8. I don't hate WP. It just lacks too many features for me and I prefer Android. I'd love to own one, though. It's a really cool platform. Just needs some tweaks. Who said that ANY Android fan hates WP at ALL? Lol, I dislike iOS WAY more than WP.

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