Both the 5.77" Galaxy S9 and 6.22" S9+ reported to come with in-cell touch displays

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In a disappointing news for third-party suppliers, Samsung has allegedly opted to produce an in-cell touch solution for both Galaxy S9 models next year on its own. Dubbed Y-OCTA, the flexible OLED technology integrates the touch layer in the screen panel itself, thus slimming it down, and reducing production costs by the whopping 30%. 

The Galaxy S8 uses such a solution, while the S8+ and the upcoming Note 8 are said to be with a regular extra touch layer packaged together with the panel, as Samsung suppliers don't have enough capacity to implement it everywhere for now.

Both the 5.77" and 6.22" panels of the eventual Galaxy S9 and S9+ are tipped to come with Y-OCTA touch layer integration, though, and Samsung is going to use its own resources to produce them. The display unit is reported to expand greatly for next year, upping the capacity from the 3-4 million panels a month it can make now, to 10 million, and the company is apparently trying to internalize all production and component processes. "It is a matter of time for the wider adoption of the Y-OCTA," commented an industry source. "Due to its cost benefits, Samsung is likely to adopt the solution for its new display and smartphone technologies."

source: ET News

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38 Comments

1. Hallyu

Posts: 790; Member since: Jul 21, 2015

Y-OCTA touch layer, THIS! We are tired of winning, AGAIN!

2. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Samsung produces every part of its smartphones , not like some companies lol

8. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Samsung is getting bigger in tech everyday.

12. apple-rulz

Posts: 1795; Member since: Dec 27, 2016

Let's see, Samsung sure do build stuff, but as far as engineering; 1) Infinity display; Designed and engineered by the FPD division of Toppan, licensed to Samsung. 2) Samsung Pay; Loop Pay 3) Bixby; Viv Labs 4) Samsungs 10nm, 8nm, 6nm processes; developed by the member universities of Sematech, licensed to Samsung. Yep Samsung do build stuff, but too bad they ain't good at original thought. LOL.

14. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Omg are u serious lol??? What apple make lol ..... lets just stay quite About the 200 million oled panel and Apple A12 and pcie memory lol ;)

18. ShadowSnypa786

Posts: 409; Member since: Jan 06, 2017

Still better than Apple who rely on Samsung who according to you "Ain't good at original thought" :D

22. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"Still better than Apple who rely on Samsung who according to you "Ain't good at original thought" :D" You owned the clown, big time.

26. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

VS Apple who 1) Doesn't have the ability to make displays. 2) Apple Pay is based on MasterCard Tokenization Process which Apple has to license for Apple Pay to work. 3) Siri was purchase from another company...in fact they bought the copmpany. 4) Apple's FPS was purchased by buying Authentec 5) apple designs a CPU, but its based of ARM references, to which apple is a licensee and also a stockholder So yeat Apple makes....errrrrrr buys lots of stuff which is cheaper because the other company's spend the money and do all the hard work and yet even with that benefit, apple is still 3 years behind everyone else's technology. So yeah Apple has no original thoughts. Samsung has far mire original thought. After all Smasung invented their own curved display. They invented their flexible displays. Samsung invented their own ISOCELL cameras. Samsung yes uses ARM CPU reference designs, but they actually design and fabricated their own CPU and GPU. In fact Samsung makes 95% of their own hardware parts. All which require original thought. SO NO YOU ARE WRONG> LIKE EVERY APPLE IFAN IGNORAMUS IS!

37. ravikrak

Posts: 5; Member since: Aug 02, 2017

Lol... There is no person called Samsung. Any one who works under Samsung contact also invention of samsung..

38. M.O.A.B

Posts: 315; Member since: Feb 13, 2015

Can you prove 1 and 4?? because i searched toppan fpd division but found nothing related to screens, let alone related to Samsung, and regarding sematech the news are saying that samsung and others have left sematech 2 years ago Where do you get your facts from??

25. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Almost every part. Some parts are split with other companies, due to not having the capacity to produce all of it. Example, Samsung has its own ISOCELL camera sensors, but they don't have the ability to produce enough for just the S and Note series, so they also use Sony sensors. They also split chipsets with Qualcomm. But tits not because Samsung doesn't have the capacity, its because of US compatibility issues. Even though the Exynos can work on USA LTE networks, the modem works harder, has lots of errors, which reduce performance and increases battery drain. But they do provide at least 95% of what goes into the product, which results in a higher manufacturing price vs Apple who sources 100% of the iPhone parts from 3rd parties. Apple doesn't make s**t. Which is why they have higher profits because they have nearly zero overhead. Which is why I don;'t get excited about Apple's profit margins because they are convoluted. They have a different business model vs Samsung who manufactures its parts from raw materials, they have nearly 4 times the employees, they actually have factories that require machinery, repairs and you have to consider the distribution costs of all of Samsung products combine. I am betting the money Samsung spends in a year, is at least 5 times what Apple makes in a year. Even with that, Samsung profits are still double figures and growing steady each year.

3. Soundjudgment

Posts: 370; Member since: Oct 10, 2016

"and reducing production costs by the whopping 30%. " That's 30% reduction of the screen-manufacturing process...not the phone cost itself.

15. Landon

Posts: 1219; Member since: May 07, 2015

That 30% reduction will only benefit Samsung unfortunately.

20. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

And eventually those they sell displays to, with cheaper prices.

29. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Exactly. Shhhh! Don't tell the stupid haters.

28. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Yes but that cost in manufacturing reduces the cost of the part itself, which bring down the cost to make the phone, even if they still charge you a high price. Wake up dude, you know nothign about business.

30. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

SO lets do some example math. Let's say the display inside the S8 as an example cost Samsung to make a total of $50. This is a cost based on an average number of planned displays to be made. So lets use the S and lets say they do a production run of 100M. So we take a 3rd off which is about $16. So now that same display cost Samsung $34 to make. Now they like;y won't pass that cost saving to the consumer, but that same 30% will apply to other displays they amke and sell to losers who can't make their own...like Apple as an example. So APple shops Samsung to get an OLED display. THis display right now costs Apple at last $80 each based on the price for the upcoming iPhone 8. That emans with the upgraded display on the next run, the touch layer will be part of the display itself. The cost cut came from the fact that the displays now only need one run to complete the full assembly vs 2. First they make the display, then take the panels and use another machine to apply the touch layer. Now they eliminate the need for the touch layer machines, the displays only need one production run, which means man power is moved to something else cutting cost. So then losers like Apple when they sign a new contract, can now get that same display next year for less money. Maybe the cost will be $50 per 100M, which increases Apple profit margin. But see you idiots can't see past that.

4. DRS1977

Posts: 678; Member since: May 27, 2015

Maybe this will help with on screen fingerprint reader since the panel itself must be very thin to work.

31. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

The problem with the FPS, is it has its own illumination panel. Thsi panel lights up in order to see your fingerprint. This light has to be brighter than the display, because it has to shine through the brightest light your display has. So when you consider the S8, on auto-brightness it gets 1000 nits. SO that means this FPS is even brighter; because its own light has to be brighter to see you finger that is sitting on a bright light. You cant make the display brighter to match, because then the FPS won't even work. LCD's are worse because of the bulb.

5. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

Let them solve the lags problems of S8 first.

6. Techlover2018

Posts: 80; Member since: Jul 14, 2017

The only one that's lag is you.

7. Cosnayomex007

Posts: 5; Member since: Aug 02, 2017

probably dey have to solve your brain's first. You thought of that at all?

9. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Can't help his brain at all.

17. 99999

Posts: 142; Member since: Jul 25, 2017

We tried and tried so many times and gave him hard facts off Why, but still refuses too. Apple has taken over his brains. Never ever will he be normal nor will he revert back to human society. Feel sad for this guy. Let's all pray to God for him. So he becomes well.

34. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

God can't help him. But the Devil loves his evil @$$!

36. 99999

Posts: 142; Member since: Jul 25, 2017

Lmfao +1

21. iushnt

Posts: 3021; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Read post 17

23. tedkord

Posts: 16979; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

They can't. The lag is in your brain, and that's unrepairable.

32. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

It doesn't have anymore lag issues vs any other phone. Do better or just STFU! I've only refreshed my S8 one time since purchase. Meaning I had to factory reset the device because of lag. Yet my iPhone 7+, I've refreshed 3 times already and it needs it again. But now I on;y use it a couple times per week, so now I dont care. Its going on the chopping block this month, because the application we use that only works on Android for our work that we were trying to get to work on iOS, is neber gonna work on IOS, because Apple in iOS 11 has restricted the camera API more and our app will never work. So we are stopping its development and sticking with Android and our office is goign full Samsung when the Note 8 gets released.

33. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1337; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

is this they only thing you can come up with? Yes, there is lag but it is no where what it use to be since the S6, IMO, their devices have improved with every generation and can go toe to toe if not surpass all other manufactures in design, Stability innovation and Function ( out does everyone here). I know your not a fan of Samsung but you do have to admit that these guys are serious about their products and are consistently pushing the envelope. By the way every phone experience lags.

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