Big changes coming to Verizon January 18th?
posted by Alan F. / Jan 14, 2010, 1:48 PM
The Basic plan will now be titled Nationwide Talk with the Nationwide Talk and Text replacing the Select plan. Featurephone Data plans will run $9.99/month for 25MB of data and mobile email. A monthly price of $29.99 will get you unlimited data and mobile email. Overage fees on the $9.99 plans have been sliced in half from 50 cents to 25 cents per MB. And all 3G Multimedia phones-a category that now includes the LG Chocolate Touch, enV3, enV Touch and others-will require a monthly Data plan of $9.99 or higher. Verizon also made some changes to its pre-paid offerings as Big Red is now making available an unlimited pre-paid plan called Talk and Text which will cost $94.99 per month.
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nice no more complaining from customers saying that we are the most expensive carrier : )
posted on Oct 20, 2010, 1:44 AM 0
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yeah they still are the most greediest! Why should consumers be forced to get a data plan if they won't be using those features. I just find handsets like the enV3 requiring one - it clearly shows VZ's insatiable appetite for money. I know other carrier's might follow the same suit.....but it's unfair to the consumer! We deserve better.
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 2:01 PM 0
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i hope that's sarcasm... because this has to be the most draconian policies i have ever seen. MANDATORY DATA PLANS FOR ANY 3G CAPABLE PHONE? are you fucking serious? so now if you want the env3, you are required to pay an additional $9.99 for a data plan that you are NOT going to use? that's fucking ridiculous. these phones don't even allow you to properly experience the web. please Verizon, don't brag about anything until you reach the $79.99 Unlimited Data, Voice, Text that T-Mobile has. i don't see how they have anything to be proud of when one of their own slides show that Sprint and T-mobile are MUCH more affordable.
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 2:09 PM 0
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According to reviews the Nexus One is already showing signs of poor 3G performance on T-Mobile's network...so obviously, cheaper isn't always better. That's always been Verizon's push. Companies like Sprint or T-Mobile HAVE to do something to be competitive so they slash prices. How much sense does it make to pay $3/mo (exaggeration) for unlimited everything if your cellphone, which is supposed to be mobile, is crippled and doesn't perform well on the go like it should? Kinda defeats the purpose, I think...but bring on the cheaper plans with terrible HSPA+ coverage.
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 5:26 PM 0
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You pay for coverage. Some people would rather spend a little more to actually have 3g signal. That 79.99 unlimited calls and text and web plan might as well not include web where I live. Tmobile hardly has any signal at all, some towns have no Tmobile towers at all, and we won't see 3g around here till God knows when. For $20 more a month a VZW customer has unlimited calls, text, and 25mb of data, and 3g signal to actually USE those MBs. Verizon won't ever be cheaper than Tmobile until one of two things happens: Verizon chops their network down, getting rid of half of their towers (we know that won't ever happen) OR Tmobile adds enough towers to actually compete with Verizon on coverage and ups their plan costs accordingly (again, never gonna happen). We have a choice to make...Money or signal. Which do you value more?
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 10:03 PM 0
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Yes, it does seem greedy to require people to add a data feature, but can you really say anything about an "insatiable appetite for money" when they just made the unlimited talk plans waaaay cheaper? Now you can have an unlimited talk and text plan, PLUS a $9.99 data package, for the same price that you would have paid for just unlimited minutes. Where's the greed in that? So basically you take the good with the bad. The people on low minute plans who don't use data won't appreciate the change, but they can get a smooth or an intensity. The people who need a ton of minutes will really appreciate the change, because even after adding a data plan they are still saving money. You can't please everyone all the time. Verizon is trying to please the high tier customer. Can you blame them for making a more attractive offering for customers who are willing to spend more money per month?
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 10:19 PM 0
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They forgot to add on the Advantages area that Sprint offers Any Mobile/Any Time for non Unlimited Plans AND Sprint Navigation, Sprint TV, Sprint Radio, Tethered Texting, Visual Voicemail, (On certain phones) NASCAR and NFL at no additional charge, the other carriers charge you extra for those features. :)
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 2:07 PM 0
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How can they say they are cheaper than the others? Not everyone uses the unlimited. If you look at the $99 family plan with 700 mins plus text. You get 1500mins from Sprint for the same price. Also AT&T and Sprint don't charge you $10 just because you have a 3g device. My kids have 2 phones listed in the 3g multimedia catagory. They just use them for texting, no data or internet. The env's don't even have a real web browser. I have the Dare and the browser on that is crap. This new plan would cost me another 10 bucks per. Now we are going to be forced to get basic phones with very few features to avoid the extra charges. We only use our phones for talk and text. I want to add texting to all of our phones. Might be time to start looking what the other companies have to offer. Verizon might have more 3g than the others but who cares if you don't use it. Before anyone says anything I know it only applies if I change my plan. I am looking to add unlimited texting to my family plan.
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 2:50 PM 0
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So is the $29.99 data on family plans per phone or for the entire account? If it is per phone than I think the Family plans are now MORE expensive if you use a smartphone. I have two Pre's now for $129.99 1500 min on Sprint and if I wanted to switch to VZW for Pre Plus it would be $119.99 for 1400 and then another $59.98 for the data for a total of $179.97 a month? Let me guess Nav is still extra too which is included in my $129.99 now? For what they want to charge I should be able to hog as much bandwith as I want since and free thethering since the data alone would be more than my $45/month At&t Pro DSL.
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 3:01 PM 0
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Good Point, they don't mention that.. Also on T-Mobile If you buy the Discounted Phone through their plan, there is a $30 Data Charge Per line. So its $79.99 Unlimited Voice and Text plus $30 Unlimited Data. The True discount is if you buy the phone at full pop!
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 3:12 PM 0
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They just got rid of the data share option that the Connect and Premium plans offered making each phone have to pay for data and any other extras.
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 3:39 PM 0
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Remember, connect plans were an extra $10 per line for unlimited data on non-smartphones. Now they require the same $10, it just isn't unlimited data anymore, its only 25 mb, which is probably enough for most non smart phone users who don't watch youtube all day. So its just like they are forcing everyone onto a connect plan, and then telling people with envy touches and rogues to back off of youtube or pay $20 more per month, as if they had a smartphone.
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 10:13 PM 0
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What these plans are doing is causing a data network war between the carriers. The calling and texting plans are about the same. The difference now will be the data networks coverage, costs, and speeds. That is why Verizon has done what they have done. Now what does T-Mobile have on them? Use to be price, that was it. Now that it is about equal, it comes down to network and power. Once Verizon goes LTE, its over at that point as no other carrier can compete with that for a long time. The only thing I don't agree with is the 3G requirement for data. The device has to be comprable to force something like that. At this point, the only device then people should be going after is the Rogue because of the browser. At that point and the phones that requrie data, why would you buy any other phone than the Rogue other than a smartphone?
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 6:01 PM 0
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What kills me is all this new talk about metered data billing. When AT&T spoke of doing it they were shredded and totally spoke of as a horrible carrier. Now that Verizon has brought up the idea some are praising the idea. I know that most of the Verizon fans on this site are going to say it's all about the coverage and blah blah blah. What I think is this, it's a proven fact that Att has over double the data devices than any other carrier including Verizon. So we know this is fact. We also know that the iPhone itself takes up all most all of that data because of it's awesome browser. Now that Verizon is actually starting to sell data devices vs just voice the big wigs are starting to see that their network is going to start to see the stress of what actuall data devices can do. Verizon network is built so that their data and voice use the same network. So we all know they have the most voice customers and know as more and more data devices are being added it's going to congest the network. Is metered billing the way? Some will say yes because they feel that why should I pay to support people that use or abuse the data while others are going to say if I pay for it I'll use what ever and how ever much I want. To be honest until they ( being any carrier) do something about it and make the change. As the carriers see more and more data users come online they all will see congestion on the networks. The CDMA carriers will suffer most being like I said having one network doing both data and voice where as GSM having a network for voice and another for data. As much as people don't want to admitt it the iPhone would have crippled any US network it grabbed hold of. Just remember this, Steve Jobs stated that when the iPhone launched it would sell 10,000,000 units within the first year and everyone thought he was crazy and very bold. Well it happened and then some. Not defending AT&T in any reason for the let down but you almost can't put all the blame on them. I just think they take a lot a bad press for stuff that all the other carriers do as well or better yet will soon face with over loaded networks. As for the voice plan pricing dropping, sure. Voice is so cheap these days and hardly any money is made there. Data is the money maker these days and the days of basic phones are over. I really don't have a problem with them charging a premium for certain phones. If they would have made the data plans manditory before vs giving options when getting a BB or Treo or others customers would just asume it and either accept it or go to a different phone. We are just a society that does not deal with change well but understand that this is just the begining and many more will be on the way. One last thought as much as we think it is spectrum is not an unlimited resource especially with other things competiting with it like TV, Radio as well as all the new devices coming out. Until they figure out away to accomidate it all it's going to get messy.
posted on Jan 14, 2010, 7:14 PM 0
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