Baited by John Legere, Sprint CEO slams T-Mobile's "Uncarrier bullshit"

Baited by John Legere, Sprint CEO slams T-Mobile's
T-Mobile's CEO John Legere is well known for his maverick approach to business. The most headline-grabbing man in the mobile industry, his recent exploits include posing as a superhero in a protest against what he sees as a duopoly in AT&T and Verizon, using their financial superiority to hoard the 600 MHz spectrum. T-Mo's Uncarrier initiative, meanwhile, is the ultimate stick-it-to-the-man approach, offering consumers more flexibility and choice. With features like data rollover, it's a response to the 24-month contract, which Legere described in 2013 as "bullshit". Ironically, Sprint new CEO Marcelo Claure has a similar description for Legere, picking holes in Uncarrier while calling it out as a "misleading" package. 

Being smaller than both AT&T & Verizon, Sprint should be something of an ally to T-Mobile's efforts, but it's clear that these two carriers have a different outlook on things. Expressing his opinion on Sprint's new 'All-in' plan, Legere lit the blue touchpaper with his less-than-tactful assessment:

As you can imagine, that didn't go down too well with Claure, who quickly came back with his take on matters:

Watching two CEOs go at it like kids in a playground is partially refreshing, but if the duopoly is such a threat, a fall-out between the United States' third and fourth largest carriers seems very counter-productive. 

Whether this escalates further remains to be seen. But having only just kissed and made up with BlackBerry CEO John Chen -- who threw in a special Batman case to sweeten the deal -- Legere seems to love a spat with fellow leaders. 

Whatever happened to 'stick together'?

source: John Legere, Marcelo Claure (1), (2), (3), (4)



1. pa_follow

Posts: 19; Member since: Jun 21, 2015

Awesome. Now let's see AT&T and Verizon's CEOs join the brawl. I say give them Longclaw, Ice, Oathkeeper, Needle, and lock them in a pitch black room together. Legere get's Needle.

2. theguy2345

Posts: 1216; Member since: Jun 24, 2014

That was a BURN. I wonder how legere is going to respond. He seems to be making tons of friends.

3. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Amazing. Cant wait for a response.

4. downphoenix

Posts: 3165; Member since: Jun 19, 2010

Hate to say it, but Legere got his butt handed to him.

8. TreyTreyTaylor

Posts: 728; Member since: Dec 21, 2010

Lol. That most definitely was not a burn. That sounded like a man who is upset over the competitions strides in the industry. Sprint sucks anyways. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING with "All In" with 600kbps video streaming at all times???

10. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Sprint is so much better nationwide than T-Mo. Sure there are areas where T-Mo works better but Sprint has way more coverage nationwide. Sprint still has a long way to go but T-Mobile is overpriced garbage. At least you can make calls with Sprint hahaha.

22. TreyTreyTaylor

Posts: 728; Member since: Dec 21, 2010

You can't be serious. Sprint has nationwide coverage? Yeah calling coverage. T-mobile LTE and HSPA+ speed mops the floor with Sprints "nationwide coverage". Overpriced garbage? At least you can make calls with Sprint? Sprints Spark data is garbage. Sprints phones are CDMA, Connection Optimizing, Un unlockable garbage. And to downpheonix, yeah they reversed that after they thought new customers wouldn't notice. Sprint can be better nationwide than T-mobile. T-mobile has better plans, better LTE speed, better phone capabilities, and clearly better unlimited. I pay 80 a month for true unlimited. No throttling, no caps, and no CDMA trash. Ruckus please.

25. TheRequiem

Posts: 245; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Someone call the waaaaaaambulance. Btw, I'm sure everyone totally will take your word for it...

26. TreyTreyTaylor

Posts: 728; Member since: Dec 21, 2010

Real mature, typing all those a's. Anyways, You don't have to take my word for it. The truth is the truth. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. This isn't a essay sir...

30. engineer-1701d unregistered

i have sprint and am involved in class action lawsuit because of the bs sprint is s**t 1 bar service thanks spark and 3 min load time on a page if it opens and am 12 miles north of washington dc so dont think am in the boonies, i have had sprint since 2001 after nextel was taken by sprint it all went to hell

31. AyBau27

Posts: 16; Member since: Aug 01, 2012

Lol lawsuit? Bars don't mean that much.. I've gotten 20±mb with 1 bar and less as well. It's all relative to upgrades they make to towers, your area if it's heavy user density or not and just coverage base where you actually use it, Things change and you can't expect the best expirience without upgrading devices. Check the coverage maps before you buy. Plenty of ways out of contracts or offers from other companies to get your business.

33. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Hey I pay $80 a month with Sprint for unlimited everything and no throttling! Nice thing is when I go to get a new phone my plan will still be $80 and yours will be around $110. Both companies have $80 truly unlimited plans but Sprints plan includes the price of the phone and T-Mobiles well... doesn't... Thanks for playing!

12. downphoenix

Posts: 3165; Member since: Jun 19, 2010

That is already old news, they reversed that.

32. kaintae

Posts: 98; Member since: Dec 14, 2011

lol @ all the people arguing over who's 2nd worst

5. Mxyzptlk unregistered

*grabs popcorn * This is more entertaining than arguments in a blackberry article.

6. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

Sounds like Claure doesn't like hearing truth. There's a reason Sprint is struggling to stay at number 3

7. DeejayReact

Posts: 40; Member since: Jun 14, 2013

too bad sprint's network f**king sucks. nice try though

9. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Much better than T-Mo. Not only does Sprint have more coverage, but TMo is stuck with a lot of 2G towers.

11. My1cent

Posts: 370; Member since: Jan 30, 2014

Bull (sh)it on!

13. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

Depends on where your at. In my area t-mobile has good coverage

14. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

You're right, but nationwide Sprint has more coverage. T-Mo works in my local town here but go 5 minutes outside and you don't even get 2G. Sprint meanwhile will work in most areas.

16. ojdidit84

Posts: 462; Member since: Jul 16, 2011

I'm not sure where you live, but at least here in San Diego, TMo is leaps and bounds better than Sprint. TMo has better LTE coverage everywhere here, MUCH faster speeds and at least from what I've experienced compared to when I had Sprint, MUCH better call quality. And let's face it. Sprint (or VZW/ATT) wouldn't be offering the deals that they were offering if it weren't for TMo shaking things up in the US market. It's also pretty clear when you upgrade your phone through Jump! what your new payments are going to be. It's laid out right on the agreements that you sign. If you don't read it, that's your own fault. #YUMadSprint

21. Ruckus

Posts: 286; Member since: Oct 20, 2011

Right you live in a major city where T-Mo does work. Here outside of Pittsburgh T-Mo is rocking 2G speeds and Sprint has 4G LTE running consistently over 15Mbps. I'll give T-Mobile credit for being great at deceiving their customers, but Sprint has nore coverage nationwide and cheaper plans. Of course there are areas where T-Mobile is better, but for the majority of Americans it's not.

28. ojdidit84

Posts: 462; Member since: Jul 16, 2011

Making a blanket statement that one carrier is better than the other, at least where TMo & Sprint is concerned, is pretty silly. They both suck pretty equally in one place compared to another in any random part of the country. But TMo has made the most improvements to their network in the shortest amount of time compared to Sprint. Sprint & TMo are also the youngest carriers that basically built both of their networks from the ground up, and never had the clout that ATT & VZW had to put up the pressure up against the big 2 on the coverage front. TMo is definitely the underdog of the two and while they may not have the best network in the country, they're definitely causing the most change for everyone on every network.

24. dragon76

Posts: 32; Member since: Jun 24, 2012

I live in between Pittsburgh and Morgantown and have had TMo within the past couple years and within 35 mile radius of my house TMo is 2G ( kept being told "we are going to upgrade that area very soon" that was several years ago) everywhere that is if you are even able to get a signal.... Sprint on the other hand just recently put some shiny new LTE in the area neither network can touch Verizons coverage area or ATT's speed in my area but price wise they can't touch Sprint or Tmo I really wish that they could get along and bust up the big two

27. ojdidit84

Posts: 462; Member since: Jul 16, 2011

I'd had Sprint service from 2000 to 2013. I got to deal with Sprint's "service" from a point when their 3G was faster than VZW's and then VZW hit the ground running w/ LTE while Sprint was still barely trying to get WiMax coverage to major metro areas except for on the East coast where Sprint's coverage has always been at it's best. Went to VZW in 2013 after being tired of Sprint and while I had coverage everywhere that I went, except for my house apparently, my LTE speeds just kept getting slower and slower, just like I experienced w/ Sprint and their 3G/WiMax and made the jump to TMO in 2014 and I can't say that I'd look back at the other 2 at this point. Now, 2 years ago, before TMo started making improvements to their network, being last of the big 4 to do so, I wouldn't touch TMo w/ a latex body suit but they've made vast improvements in their service since they started their LTE rollout. So when people say things like not getting service in their semi-rural area on the East coast, I totally believe it. Their focus seems to be on metro areas and people "out in the boonies" seem to get screwed. I mean, if they don't have coverage in your home area, I'd definitely switch to a carrier that did. Now, as far as TMo deceiving their customers, their coverage maps definitely don't lie. They back up what you guys say as far as your coverage around Pittsburgh, PA. When I signed my contract, I didn't have any surprises later on and when I got a Jump! upgrade, I knew that my payments for my Note 4 were going to be $13 more than they were for my Note 3. It was lined out right on the page I signed with all of my changes I'd be seeing. I don't think that someone who isn't actually a customer of TMo should be talking about how they deceive their customers and they don't actually have the service.

17. abhinav.tella unregistered

I was with Sprint for a while till last Sept, I live in a suburb of Minneapolis, they told me we would have good coverage by 2014 in 2013... Their 3G is slower than T-Mobiles 2G by far and that LTE was barely 3G speeds... They even gave us an Airave as even 2G was spotty but whats the use if outside our home we barely get any signal.. And those maps are wrong.. According to Sprint I should have good service. For god sakes even outside the local Sprint store there is barely 1 bar of LTE. They kept giving us discounts which was nice but the coverage was just horrible unless you live in like downtown or areas very close to the city center. T-Mobile gives me full LTE coverage and speeds are excellent. Sprint is generally the slowest in speeds overall of the 4 carriers. They had so much spectrum but did dumb things like WiMax and LTE and lost a lot of precous time in between then they had had issues with eCSFB.

18. abhinav.tella unregistered

Last sentence was supposed to be LTE for their new tri band devices had issues with eCSFB.

15. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

T-Mobile has had a fantastic effect on plans and pricing among carriers. I truly believe consumers are better off for that. But, honestly, there will be a point where Mr. Legere will start doing more harm than good for his company. T-Mobile is still the company with the shakiest future. Their parent company wants to unload them and their profit margins are good but not huge. Sprints new owner, Softbank, has got deep pockets and is focused on improving the one area Sprint has always been weak- their signal strength. Sprint needs to tread water for a year or so before those improvements start to show dividends. Meanwhile, T-Mobile will go as far as their magnetic leader gets them, for there is very little in the way of nationwide improvements in their future without new ownership. If that leadership steps over a line and burns bridges, how does that help? Mr. Legere has a great business sense. We are better off for him being in the leadership role. But MAYBE he should focus on his business model, and work on not losing the forward momentum T-Mo has? They have zero room for error. Picking fights will be counter-productive at some point.

19. tacarat

Posts: 854; Member since: Apr 22, 2013

He hits his goals, the company gets bought and a new person is put in his place. Things stay the same for a while and then it's a "the industry is shifting" speech as perks are trimmed back. Seem like a plan?

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