Apple whips out a Nokia Lumia and Xperia arc at court and says "Not every phone needs to look like an iPhone!"

Apple whips out a Nokia Lumia and Xperia arc at court and says "Not every phone needs to look like an iPhone!"
Nokia and Sony got a little pep talk about the design of their Lumia and Xperia handsets during the closing arguments in the Apple-Samsung trial yesterday, when Apple's star lawyer Harold McElhinny whipped out an unspecified Lumia plus an Xperia arc, and exclaimed: "Not every phone has to look like an iPhone!

The Lumia line design is in turn directly borrowed from the work on the MeeGo-powered Nokia N9. The Finns mentioned that they didn't really have time to think about other groundbreaking chassis types for their first Windows Phone batche, so they used what was exclusive in the design studio at the moment, and in advanced stage of production, like the signature policarbonate unibody in flashy colors.

For its next Windows Phone devices Nokia said it is venturing into other memorable design paradigms, so we can't wait to see what September 5 brings, because, frankly, once you've hit the multicore chipsets and HD screens stage, design is pretty much your chief means of differentiation in the tangible realm.

source: TheVerge



54. pikapowerize

Posts: 1869; Member since: May 03, 2012

nokia and sony always make different looking phones... samsung always copies!!!

53. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

They only show those phones because it doesn't THREATENED Apple's stock/sales of the iPhone. Look at HTC it doesn't looks like the iPhone but yet they BAN THEM and HTC is loosing sales because of it

51. TheRetroReplay

Posts: 256; Member since: Mar 20, 2012

The only reason why they're not suing Nokia or Sony is because Apple doesn't see them as a threat.

47. jibraihimi

Posts: 816; Member since: Nov 29, 2011

Samsung should have brought original Prada phone to court, in response to this............ :) Apple should also Learn to be original..........

44. speckledapple

Posts: 902; Member since: Sep 29, 2011

it brings to question why would you want to?

43. jack1059

Posts: 72; Member since: Mar 31, 2012

I'm so sick of all this BS. Apple, or anyone else, does not own the black with rounded edges rectangle. Nor does it own an icon that looks like an old telephone. Nor a finger motion. Apple has set the standard that virtually everyone is now following. That's it. End of story. Everyone needs to stop using this antiquated patent system as a way to protect their market share.

32. ajac09

Posts: 1482; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

and lets see how many arcs sold.. and the nokia is rectangle shaped... all smart phones are basically that shape as is the iphone.

30. allen83

Posts: 107; Member since: Mar 01, 2012

NOkia makes unique phones that are recognizable as a Nokia brand rather than any brand. That is why the N9 is recognized as a Nokia brand rather than an Apple brand.

27. Odeira

Posts: 300; Member since: Jun 29, 2012

Surprising that Apple actually recognises that the Nokia Lumia became "successful without copying the design of the iPhone." I won't be surprised if Apple gazes at Windows Phone next...

24. Aeires unregistered

They could have held up a S3 and gotten the same point across.

26. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

They coulda held up a G Nex too. I read that Apple plans to name the G Nex in an upcoming lawsuit....

23. Awaragardiyan unregistered

Not every iphone(after 3gs) needs to be look like Nokia HS 45 AD 54 that came with Nokia 5800 Xpress Music in 2008

36. smallworld

Posts: 535; Member since: Jul 13, 2012

Yeah... but apparently the iphone 4 design is much older than that (2005).

22. smallworld

Posts: 535; Member since: Jul 13, 2012

HA Even Apple acknowledges that Sony makes unique phones!

48. .POLICE.

Posts: 7; Member since: Aug 22, 2012

The world acknowledges that SONY makes unique design's!

16. haseebzahid

Posts: 1853; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

from which side does lumia looks like a iphone(which actully looks like a brick)

18. Mittal

Posts: 494; Member since: Dec 14, 2011

LMAO... u r not the first few comments!!

20. i_am_aman

Posts: 13; Member since: Aug 09, 2012

Now a days, We've so many Einsteins crawling all over the web.

14. i_am_aman

Posts: 13; Member since: Aug 09, 2012

Judge: F**k iPhone... where can I get one of these?? :P :D

10. wendygarett unregistered

both iphone and n9 design are old but why n9 looks way better than iphone? maybe it just me :)

9. shuaibhere

Posts: 1986; Member since: Jul 07, 2012

And there is no need that only one phone should have face centred rectangular screen with moulded edges..... Is there any rule like that??

8. MeoCao unregistered

Well, most stupid argument from a professional lawyer. Those phones can be different, but make them in minimalist style and they all look similar, and that's not crime.

37. poddey

Posts: 77; Member since: Mar 22, 2012

Spot on. That's the problem with Apple's design patent - it is too generic. A smartphone is going to be somewhat rectangular because the screen is a rectangle and rounded corners serve an ergonomic function. To say that no one else should be allowed to make a rectangular smartphone with rounded corners and a centred screen is like saying no one else can build a rectangular car with angled front and back windscreens and have an equal length front and rear overhang from the wheels. Taking the car analogy one step further you would say that you should still be able to build a car with those same characteristics as long as you can add other design elements to make it look different - which is what Sony and Nokia have done but Samsung have (deliberately) failed to do.

46. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Agreed. Their patent describes many prior things. Clipboards, appliances, pencil boxes, laptops, erasers, remote controls, some floor tile... It's a ridiculous patent. I'd live it if a lawyer for Samsung would have taken a generic clipboard, had it painted to match the color of an iPad, put a piece of tape in the middle to cover where the logo would be, and ask the witnesses and apple folks to identify it, then reveal that it's just a clipboard. Better if it's an old clipboard, like from pre-apple days

7. phitch

Posts: 214; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

You know, except the Lumia looks like the old iPod Nano design.

4. andro.

Posts: 1999; Member since: Sep 16, 2011

Well excuse me for a moment Apple but both the nokia lumia,and Sony arc come in black colours,both are rectangular in shape,both have a touchscreen central in the front of the device,both have a speaker above the screen and both have a central home button below the screen either in capacity or button format. Both devices also use a variant of 'slide to unlock' to unlock the screen also. The sony arc also uses a touchscreen icon grid system in the app drawer like samsung,a grid menu system being used in phones from nokia etc for years before apple in candy bar button phones. Aren't these features essentially the whole list of things Apple has been crying about Samsung about?!

13. AndroidShiz

Posts: 154; Member since: Nov 08, 2011

It's cause they pose zero threat.

17. Mittal

Posts: 494; Member since: Dec 14, 2011

lolz.. good 1

25. RamyRamz69

Posts: 390; Member since: Dec 12, 2011

All cars have a bumper, wheels, engine, seats and a roof. But you can tell when Kia makes something really similar looking to Toyota. Posted from my Sony Xperia Arc. I can even attach a picture if you want to realize that not only Apple fan-boys don't like Samsung.

28. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

i think his point was, that if you watch apple's "evidence", its all about how you "feel" about the design. They stressed their "curved rectangle", centered screen, and large home button during the trial like they invented it. Apple never went into detail, Samsung did. Detail kills their case. Apple's case was presented in kindergarten descriptions.

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