Apple v. Samsung jurors are told not to update devices or load apps during deliberation

Apple v. Samsung jurors are told not to update devices or load apps during deliberation
Those sitting on the jury for the Apple v. Samsung trial will be given a number of different devices to try during deliberations. Judge Koh has ordered the jurors not to update any of those devices that are sent into the jury room. Nor is any jury member allowed to install an app on any phone or tablet being examined by the jury. The devices, considered evidence, are being provided to the jury without SIM cards

The reason for Judge Koh's warning to the jury makes sense. She fears that if any of the devices being used for evidence are updated or changed in any way by a jury member, it could affect the way a device works and how it looks. Since part of the case revolves around infringement of design patents including icons, updating the devices could change what a juror sees and believes. While the jury won't be allowed to install SIM cards to use on the devices while deliberating , they are allowed to connect to the internet via the court's Wi-Fi network as long as they are not watching news about the trial.

Judge Koh told the jury that if they see a screen on any device offering a system update, they must decline it by selecting "install later" or by pressing the home or back button.

Jury deliberation will begin Wednesday, but their decision might not be the end of the case. Both sides have been taking notes of decisions made by Judge Koh that could be the basis of an appeal.

source: PCWorld via SlashGear



34. xtian1103

Posts: 364; Member since: Feb 11, 2012

jury is not allowed to update those samsung devices to a new software. i guess there are really no exception from the andorid update program! LOL

23. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1227; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

This will be interesting, what Android version are the devices in question using? 2.3.4 or 4.0.4? The screen sizes, widgets and plastic build could really help Samsung in this case, the moment you fire up that homescreen its clear they look nothing like iPhones.

32. tedkord

Posts: 17520; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Seriously, the only phone you could make a half convincing argument about is the original Galaxy S. After that, there's just no way you can honestly say Samsung phones look like the iPhone. They named the Droid Charge, for Christ's sake. That looks nothing like an iPhone, with its round bottom.

17. jgcaap

Posts: 42; Member since: Feb 22, 2011

the judge should rule samsung to update all their devices to jelly bean. And apple should pay for those updates :D Would be awsome for galaxian users. hehe

20. u-suck-more

Posts: 529; Member since: Aug 26, 2011

keep dreaming -.-

43. jgcaap

Posts: 42; Member since: Feb 22, 2011

was a nice dream...

16. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

no updates! you cant see what android and touchwiz actually look like! you can only see what it USED to look like!! lol. What would be funny, is if that rule didnt exist, and tomorrow we wake up to the news that all SGS1, SGS2 and SGS3 devices are updated to vanilla ICS lol

50. thelegend6657 unregistered

It would be nice to see my dad's old galaxy s1 getting ics

13. ricodroid

Posts: 16; Member since: Mar 30, 2012

idk ... i would like to laugh when reading this .. like (really ... is this whole thing real .. it sounds like a child fight in the elemntary school)

4. sinple

Posts: 132; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

i hope the jury is able to tell that samsung phone has a home screen unlike ip

3. mercorp

Posts: 1045; Member since: Jan 28, 2012

Fair enough,Judge.

2. gallitolimitededition

Posts: 18; Member since: Aug 16, 2012

the good thing about Apple is that none of their devices uses a sim card.. or use OTA updates..I could be wrong , but since my iphone needs its BFF.. the cable..

6. blazee

Posts: 414; Member since: Jan 02, 2012

iphones do have sim cards, but what is the good thing about a phone not having a sim card or OTA updates?

8. gallitolimitededition

Posts: 18; Member since: Aug 16, 2012

just thinking about not haing to worry about the removable sim cards.. is a good thing..

37. phitch

Posts: 214; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

iPhones have SIM cards what about that aren't you understanding? Wait, do you actually have an iPhone?

7. johnbftl

Posts: 283; Member since: Jun 09, 2012

Ummm, all of Apple's devices use sim cards. The iPhone, iPhone 3g, and iPhone 3gs all have a standard sim tray located on top in the middle. The 4, 4s, and all iterations of the iPad have a micro sim located on the right side toward the top. For someone that runs their mouth about Apple as much as you do, one would think you would know those facts. I don't even own an iPhone and I know that. Shows how much the average Apple consumer knows about the products they own.

9. gallitolimitededition

Posts: 18; Member since: Aug 16, 2012

I am sorry I was reading another article that forgot to mention the word removable, sorry for the confusion

11. johnbftl

Posts: 283; Member since: Jun 09, 2012

Still wrong, they're all removable. All you need is a safety pin to push the tray open.

12. gallitolimitededition

Posts: 18; Member since: Aug 16, 2012

yes I have recently learne from here. I havent remove it myself.. and neither have remove my spare tire in my car.. go figure...

14. crankyd00d

Posts: 191; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Hmm cards are removable/portable by definition, otherwise it would be just a SIM, not a SIM card :-) Just sayin'

10. skymitch89

Posts: 1453; Member since: Nov 05, 2010

The CDMA variant of the iPhone 4 doesn't have SIM cards. I have a friend that was given a Verizon iPhone 4 from his boss. He's not that big on technology, and that's how I knew what iPhone he had without having to look at anything about software.

24. thelegend6657 unregistered

Not all apple devices , just the iPhone and 3G/4g iPads with the exception of the Verizon iPhone 4

15. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

i could have sworn iOS5 allowed OTA updates. hmmm...? sure the sim cards are removable, you just need a pin to push the button to eject it.

18. JessJess unregistered

It does indeed.

19. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Gallito, if you've been banned on your main account, how the hell have you not been banned on this one yet?

21. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

he's been pretty good with his new account. So far I've only known one person to get auto caught trying to use a different account. pretty much every other person that has been banned has made multiple accounts to get around it.

22. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

I was told after two posts that I wasn't allowed to use a second account period and my second account was summarily banned. I just f**king hate double standards.

25. PhoneArena Team

Posts: 258; Member since: Jun 27, 2006

it would have been better if you reported this, instead of cursing...

28. thelegend6657 unregistered

Dear phonearena , do you think we are a couple of 5th graders that report to the teacher every time you see your classmates do something wrong ?

49. Lwazi_N

Posts: 205; Member since: Jun 23, 2011

Very good question!

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