Apple is sued by Caltech over the use of four Wi-Fi patents

Apple is sued by Caltech over the use of four Wi-Fi patents
Just the other day, we told you that Apple's legal team had its hands full with portfolio holding company VirnetX. The latter had won a jury award of $625 million against Apple, and was seeking an additional $190 million. It also asked the judge to force Apple to shut down its iMessage and FaceTime features.

Now, Apple's attorney's are being called on again to defend the company in another patent infringement case. California Institute of Technology, known as Caltech, is suing both Apple and chipmaker Broadcom over the use of four patents relating to Wi-Fi. According to the suit, a Broadcom chip used in all Apple devices since the Apple iPhone 5, copies certain Caltech technology. As a result, the school is seeking damages and a ban on the devices using the chip.

Apple's legal team will have its work cut out for it. While Broadcom is the company that produced the infringing chip, Apple is its largest customer accounting for 14% of the firm's revenue. In addition, the jury isn't likely to lump a school like Caltech in with odious patent trolls.

Considering that Broadcom's chips are crucial for Apple's devices to connect with 802.11n and 802.11ac Wi-Fi, it might be in Apple's best interests to cut a check quickly to settle the matter before a jury sympathetic to Caltech gets its hands on the case.

source: TheVerge via Engadget



1. legiloca

Posts: 1676; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

I'm seriously getting sick and tired of these stupid nonsensical ruthless crap patent wars to be honest.

2. FrenchGuy

Posts: 134; Member since: Dec 12, 2014

Well, No one minds when Apple sues others for stupid patent so I just consider this as karma.

15. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

Really FrenchGuy? "No one minds when Apple sues others..." well you could have f**king fooled me because the whining on here is endless. All this litigation IS stupid, petty and annoying but don't let your Fanboy show too much dude, people always complain about Apple doing it.

17. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

But it doesn't go the other way. Look at the Samsung/Apple trial, there were plenty of people saying that Apple was justified in going after Samsung. And those same people call foul when Apple is sued, like here. This isn't a patent troll, this is a school that is focused on technology. Are they not justified in pursuing legal action to protect their IP? Apple has sued plenty of companies to protect their IP in the past, so there should be no reason others cannot do the same for their IP.

21. Jimrod

Posts: 1605; Member since: Sep 22, 2014

That's nothing to do with what I said though, I agreed that patent trolling is stupid, I disagreed that "no one minds when Apple does it".

25. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

And like I said, the opposite is true as well. When companies like Samsung sue others, there's plenty of whining there as well. Apparently for you it all depends on who's doing the whining.

98. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013


139. itsdeepak4u2000

Posts: 3718; Member since: Nov 03, 2012

The shortest comment ever. :D

63. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Actually he meant mainly the Apple defend force in PA. You know who you are.

53. engineer-1701d unregistered

the difference is apple gets away with stealing because of the name, now no one cares about them, and they are one of the biggest if not biggest tax diodgers and dont say sheat about the tax part because you dont live in america since we are getting screwed over by them not paying, this is payback for all the companies and people screwed over by apple, every person that got a base phone with 16 gb internal in 2015 and 2016 and forced to pay crap loads of money to get the next size 64 it was a forced upgrade knowing that 16 would not cut it they made hundreds of millions on forcing people on to the 64 by not starting 32. because they know few if not half would get a 32 gb and not a 64

99. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Amazing to see people repeating things I said. Yet make posts, talking about me being delusional or wrong. Amazimg!

97. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

He's talking about the Apple fanboys of which fanclub you are apart of. I am sure you know ow that, so why play with? Even though I don't like lawsuits either. But they started this mess, so what's good for the goose is good for thr gander. Or maybe Apple should have unlocked that iPhone aye?! Yes it's petty an annoying. But unless you can show me a post of you saying the exact same thing about Apple when they were doing it, then I'd say you'd be very biased.

103. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

Is patent lawsuit isn't frivolous. It would be really stupid of Caltech to not protect their intellectual property

3. Furbal unregistered

Schools are different than patent trolls, us tax payers are supporting their research. If a company is indeed infringing on items the school found, they need to license it. We shouldn't be subsidizing an already expensive device to get their shareholders higher value.

100. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

All patents deserve to be protected and if someone is found stealing you should sue. But in many cases Apple was offered the technology, but refused to pay licensing and then it turns up on their products. Then Apple patents things they stole because they were thibgs that should never have been. Patented because of prior art. Those.dont count. Shouldn't have srole, should have sued over th I nhs you stole and you should have been paying your taxes and you should have unlocked that phone. Many popular people and company's who have been helped by people with power, when they need something from you, they expect you to give too. When you dont, all.lf a sudden the fall begins. First you get bad mouth in the media. Lawsuits that u were winning you start losing, product sales start falling at a rapid rate and then you slow die a horrible and agonizing death.

7. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

I totally agree, just remember Apple has done it too, that said, this is a school, might be actual merit to it.

22. jove39

Posts: 2148; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

Certainly you don't own any patents...people who work tirelessly to invent new technology should be rewarded by royalties for use of technology. Some patents are rubbish for sure like "D670,286" owned by apple for rectangular device with rounded corners...this patent is utter abuse of patent system. Infringement in this case isn't apple's fault at all...chip is manufactured and sold by broadcom.

29. Napalm_3nema

Posts: 2236; Member since: Jun 14, 2013

This is a set of research patents from a university. Apple might be the only one named with Broadcom, but every other OEM will end up paying in the end. Caltech doesn't need cross licensing.

66. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

Agreed, and like I said earlier, they may be going after the largest most high price company to intimidate the others into settling with them.

4. zunaidahmed

Posts: 1185; Member since: Dec 24, 2011

I am wondering, if Apple accounts for 14% of the revenue, what about the other 86% ? I smell bulls**t here just because they can get more money out of Apple. Where were they for they last 4-5 years? Sleeping frozen somewhere? I won't protect Apple because what they fought over Samsung with was also stupid but this is no better.

6. kiko007

Posts: 7521; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

This is nothing more than a money grab. Going after everyone else takes far too many resources, plus Apple has the most bank. It's that simple unfortunately.

8. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

That and that if they set presidents or what it is called, that they can win against Apple, then the other companies will just pay rather then going to court.

10. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Perhaps other manufacturers are licensing it or have cross licensing deals. It wouldn't be the first time that Apple didn't pay for licenses others did.

11. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Much like Google with Oracle?

26. Mxyzptlk unregistered


30. meanestgenius

Posts: 22520; Member since: May 28, 2014

I understand. You don't want to acknowledge that Google was cleared of any wrongdoing concerning Oracle by the courts. Carry on.

37. Mxyzptlk unregistered

I'm well aware Google was cleared. I was using the case as an example to make a point.

42. Scott93274

Posts: 6040; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

But you never make any points.... all your comments are pointless.

70. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Shut up Scott.

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