Apple keeps poaching Tesla people for work on cars and batteries: 'We have 100 times less money than Apple'

Apple keeps poaching Tesla people for work on cars and batteries: 'We have 100 times less money than Apple'
There has been an ongoing employee "poaching" from electric car-maker Tesla to Apple for a few years now, and the trend has recently accelerated, it seems. Back in 2015, Tesla's CEO Elon Musk said that Apple serves as the "Tesla graveyard" for staff that left or was no longer needed. Fast forward a few years, however, and Apple seems to have nested no less than 46 people that used to work for Tesla since the beginning of 2018.

What is Apple doing with all these engineers, supply chain or procurement specialists, and even interns that ended their sting with Tesla? Well, they are reportedly working not only on Apple's car ambitions, but also on "display, optics, and battery-tech" for the myriad of mobile devices that Apple makes. 

The company from Cupertino can afford to pay 150% of the salaries that Tesla doles out, and that might be one of the reasons that high-profile talent like Tesla's VP of engineering Doug Field is now back at Apple, after a few years at the electric car-maker. One Tesla engineer commented on Apple's poaching that Tesla must be comparatively poor, but work there is more meaningful:

source: CNBC



1. vincelongman

Posts: 5762; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Great to see Apple is looking to improve their batteries Hopefully they won't degrade so quickly in the future

8. GreenMan

Posts: 2698; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

It's not about battery quality. It's about capacity and consumption. The faster you draw power from a lithium battery; the hotter it gets and the quicker it will degrade. And a small capacity battery will get hotter quicker than a big capacity one. And iPhone 8 Plus draws a whooping 9w* from its minuscule 2,600mAh battery at full load. While on the other hand; S8 Plus draws just a tad over 5.2w** from its 3,500mAh battery. Same goes to idle power consumption. 2.52w on iPhone 8 Plus vs. 1.16w on The S8 Plus. There's no doubt about the raw performance of A11, but it comes at a cost! P.S I don't know why The iPhone 8 Plus has such a high battery benchmark score on PhoneArena. The raw power consumption data points at the other direction! Oh well, G'Day! *

10. vincelongman

Posts: 5762; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I know it's mainly because of their SoCs high power consumption They still need to start trying to reduce degradation e.g. -Add a vapor chamber to improve heat dissappation (like ROG, or a heat pipe like most Android phones) -Focus on SoC efficiency (like Qualcomm and ARM) -Use a 3200mAh battery but only charge it to 3000mAh so it doesn't degrade as much from charging (like Samsung) -Use a higher Amp charger, so the charger gets the heat not the phone (like Oppo/Vivo/OnePlus, Huawei, ...)

14. lyndon420

Posts: 6899; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

It's more than just capacity and consumption. The quality needs an overhaul because lithium ion is dangerous. There are examples of new tech where batteries can be destroyed and even cut in half and still work without fire or smoke resulting.

2. gdawilson

Posts: 299; Member since: Jul 21, 2014

One day there will be an iPhone that has a 2 day battery life, and we'll see less wall huggers out there. But that will be when Apple poaches enough people from Tesla, and others

4. peace247 unregistered

it will happen on the day when androids will have 4 days battery

5. MarvzIsFallen

Posts: 646; Member since: Aug 11, 2017

That’s why note 9 has 4000mH that can last for day while iphones had less 3000mah which also last for a day. I’m a gamer and my iphone X still got 20% battery. I charged it every bedtime.

6. TypicalGeek

Posts: 219; Member since: Feb 19, 2015

Dude, I own iPhone X too, but isn't "gamer" term is oxymoron for describing a smartphone user.

7. Papa_Ji

Posts: 885; Member since: Jun 27, 2016

Candy Crush players are not called GAMERS.

12. MarvzIsFallen

Posts: 646; Member since: Aug 11, 2017

I’m playing Tekken, Mobile Legends, AOV and Dragon Nest

9. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

All current phones have a battery around 3000 mAh and make it through the day. So you are full of it as usual.

3. Vokilam

Posts: 1387; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

I love Tesla brand and their cars, but each one is subsidised by taxpayers and I dont like that.

11. Whitedot

Posts: 880; Member since: Sep 26, 2017

Off topic: Now PA decided to remove comments section from certain articles to allow themself indulge in heresy.

13. NarutoKage14

Posts: 1348; Member since: Aug 31, 2016

I wonder if Apple will also go complete "walled garden" on their possible iCar. Imagine if your iCar breaks down and you live 100 miles from the nearest authorized repair shop.

15. mr.joosue

Posts: 65; Member since: Nov 06, 2017

Imagine people in the future complaining that their phone only has three week battery life while competitors have one month battery life. People will never be satisfied.

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