Apple co-founder worried foldable displays are making iPhone fall behind

Apple co-founder worried foldable displays are making iPhone fall behind
Samsung, Huawei, TCL, and even unknown brands such as Energizer believe foldable smartphones are the next big thing. Apple, however, hasn’t shown any interest in the form factor and this “worries” co-founder Steve Wozniak.

In a recent interview with Bloomberg, Wozniak noted that Apple “has been a leader for quite a long time” in a number of areas such as “Touch ID, facial ID, and easy payment with the phone.” Others may also say that Apple led the all-screen smartphone trend with the launch of the iPhone X in 2017. Nevertheless, the co-founder did recognize that the brand is falling behind in certain segments.

The one that stands out to him the most lately is foldable smartphones because he “really” wants one and it's a technology that "stands out" right now. Rivals Samsung and Huawei are already gearing up to release their first products whereas Apple isn’t. And if rumors are to be believed, it could still be well over a year until the Cupertino giant announces any form of foldable iPhone.

Naturally, this delayed timeline will be seen by many as a negative thing. The benefit to it, however, is that Apple will have more time to perfect its first offering and (hopefully) avoid any display creases – the Samsung Galaxy Fold and Huawei Mate X prototypes shown off at MWC 2019 both present them.

As for how Apple will perform going forward, Wozniak appears to be quite optimistic about the situation thanks to the fact that Apple is now "branching out" and focusing less on the iPhone. He also suggested Apple is always working on things in the "background" and usually has a few "surprises" up its sleeves.

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63 Comments

1. bloxor

Posts: 2; Member since: Feb 26, 2019

Apple is offering last year's technology and next year's prices.

2. RangoX

Posts: 77; Member since: Feb 20, 2015

It's been like this for several years now

24. sgodsell

Posts: 6739; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

The real problem is Apple's closed off wallgarden, and their apps. Try to think people, is Apple going to run iPad apps or iPhone apps instead on a foldable iPhone? Also if the device is folded, then do you run iPhone apps, but if it's unfolded do you run iPad apps? If you switch the display size by folding, then do you see the problem. You can't switch to running an iPad and then to an iPhone app. It won't work, unless users don't mind restarting the app all over again. Mark my words, a foldable iPhone won't be coming anytime soon. Apple could release a foldable iPhone sooner, if they wanted to restrict the apps to iPhone only apps. But other than that, Apple has an ecosystem problem, especially for foldable devices.

41. Leo_MC

Posts: 6391; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

The real problem are people like you, Apple doesn't have problems.

48. wickedwilly

Posts: 542; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

Yet another foolish statement, later you will deny this and say you said Apple does not have many problems. All companies have problems and as a self-proclaimed CEO you should know that.

62. Leo_MC

Posts: 6391; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

You have proven that you are incapable to follow a debate. We are talking about the said "problems" that this dude supposedly identified, I can't talk about the cockroach problems in Cupertino...

63. wickedwilly

Posts: 542; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

I can, you made a clear statement that "Apple does not have problems". Sgodsell mentioned one problem, you replied in plural, making it clear that you meant no problems at all. If you really meant no problems with what he mentioned, you should say that. As usual, trying to cover up your mistakes.

35. JRPG_Guy

Posts: 118; Member since: Jan 13, 2019

Lmfao

40. almostdone

Posts: 423; Member since: Sep 25, 2012

Don't worry Apple will introduce a new revolutionary color iPhone never seen before...

3. maherk

Posts: 6684; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

"Others may also say that Apple led the all-screen smartphone trend with the launch of the iPhone X in 2017" Oh really PA, like really? Who are these others apart from Apple fanboys and the American tech media? Do you remember the Mi Mix? Or the S8? Or the Mate 10 Pro? These were all phones that were bezel-less considering the technology that was offered back then.

7. Blazers

Posts: 713; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

That was Wozniaks quote to Bloomberg, not Phone Arena.

12. maherk

Posts: 6684; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Not really. Read it again.

25. sgodsell

Posts: 6739; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Non technical people don't even realize that Apple has a real problem if they tried to come out with a foldable iPhone. People forget that Apple separates it's apps for iPhones and iPads on its app store. So if it's unfolded would it run iPad apps? What happens if you told it up, would it run iPhone apps instead. If that is the case, then you would be restarting the apps again, because they are separate apps. If Apple does com out with a foldable iPhone, then most likely it would only run iPhone apps, and nothing both iPad and iPhone apps. Therefore a foldable iPhone would not be a good thing. At least Android handles that better, especially because of its apps.

13. someguy2261

Posts: 243; Member since: Feb 12, 2016

See the " " ?

18. joshuaswingle

Posts: 413; Member since: Apr 03, 2018

I don't know why you are so triggered by that sentence. If you ask most people who aren't interested in phones what the first one with an all-screen design is they'll probably think of the iPhone X. The original Mi Mix was a fantastic effort, but most consumers won't have heard of it. Especially those in the US. As for the Mate 10 Pro and S8, they aren't exactly bezel-less are they? They've got 18:9 panels

20. maherk

Posts: 6684; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

When they were released, they were considered bezel-less phones. And why not make a poll about this instead of assuming this much? Because no, most people don't think of Apple as the first manufacturer to release a bezel-less phone. When Samsung, Xiaomi, Huawei and the rest were eliminating bezels, Apple had Rihanna's forehead and Jay Leno's chin on their phones.

45. joshuaswingle

Posts: 413; Member since: Apr 03, 2018

I don't think you guys are getting my point. Ask people that don't know anything about phones. People you've never spoken to about phones. The ones that don't visit our website or other ones. Those are the ones that'd probably say the iPhone X. I have no doubt Samsung kicked off the trend of making bezels slimmer but the S10 is what I'd call bezel-less, not the S8. Slim bezels, sure. But not bezel-less. And just an FYI, the Mate 10 Pro was released after the iPhone X, so the tech was available. Huawei also praised Apple for going bezel-less and embracing the notch because it pushed them to do the same.

52. BlackhawkFlys

Posts: 899; Member since: May 07, 2014

Okay, you can't call S8 bezel-less, then how can you call iPhone X bezel-less??? Because I see lots of bezel surrounding the phone including the big ugly notch...

21. maherk

Posts: 6684; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

And may I ask, what does the aspect ratio of the display have anything to do with a bezel-less design?

22. Macready

Posts: 1798; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

The X has more bezel than the S8. Measurements don't lie, marketing material from Apple (hiding the dead space around the screen) and tainted glasses do.

28. sissy246

Posts: 6959; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Doesn't matter if people think of the iphone. The point is, the iphone was not the first to go NEAR bezel less, because it is not bezel less. https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-worlds-first-bezel-less-phone

31. alaw.14

Posts: 412; Member since: Sep 10, 2013

What the hell? The s8 was definitely considered bezel less in which Samsung marketed it as. Virtually had no bezels on the sides. What do you think infinity display means?

37. worldpeace

Posts: 3092; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Technically, S8 have MORE screen-to-body ratio than iPhoneX, which also mean, they're more "bezel-less" than iPhone X.. Got it?

46. TheOracle1

Posts: 1913; Member since: May 04, 2015

@joshuaswingle the total population of the United States is approximately 350 million. The number of mobile subscribers in China is approximately 750 million. Throw in India and the rest of Asia and you're well on the way to 2 billion subscribers. So, your "others" is just you, Phonearena and your US centric, iPhone worshipping friends.

51. BlackhawkFlys

Posts: 899; Member since: May 07, 2014

Others may also say that Apple led the all-screen smartphone trend with the launch of the iPhone X in 2017. ..... Damn... you have quoted it already... Mi Mix was the force behind the bezel-less trend... Back then Apple fanboys used to say... a bezel-less phone is a bad idea... accidental touches.... etc etc...

4. apple-rulz

Posts: 1875; Member since: Dec 27, 2016

Samsung Defense Force majorly triggered.

6. maherk

Posts: 6684; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Your comment is rich in irony, considering your history of jumping on every Android and Samsung article to bash them while defending Apple.

5. Nimbus

Posts: 439; Member since: Apr 02, 2018

IPhone is done with innovation now time for foldable smartphones like windows hybrid tablet/phablet with core os and google fushcia os.

9. whatev

Posts: 2116; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Your delusion is so cute, it warms my heart just like children in Christmas waiting for santa :’)

8. whatev

Posts: 2116; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Seriously, why does every time Wozniak farts it has to be news?

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