Another new extra-fast Snapdragon chip leaks - could it be on smartphones soon?

Another new extra-fast Snapdragon chip leaks - could it be on smartphones soon?
Earlier today we were talking about the super-fast smartphone processors that are about to follow in the wake of the current king of the jungle, Qualcomm's Snapdragon 820. While nothing beyond the 820 is official just yet, early evidence has already pointed to work on a few follow-ups, and in particular we were looking at the Snapdragon 823 – a chip that doesn't stray too far from the 820 itself, basically operating at a slightly higher speed. Now we're hearing what might be another of these upcoming 820 siblings, as a leak suggests that Asus could be releasing an alternate version of its new Zenfone 3 Deluxe flagship running a Snapdragon 821 chip.

Stick with us for a moment, as this gets a little complicated: see, there's already been a rumor bouncing around that the Asus ZenFone 3 Deluxe could arrive in certain markets running a Snapdragon 823.

But now we're looking at some actual physical evidence claiming that the ZenFone 3 Deluxe will be available in versions running both the Snapdragon 820 and a mysterious Snapdragon 821 – that's a chip we haven't really heard about before.

Based on what little evidence we can see here, the 821 sounds a lot like the 823 – just an 820 operating a little faster.

This leaves us with a few possibilities: could the chip we've been talking about as the Snapdragon 823 actually be called the 821, instead? Could Qualcomm be planning to release both chips, possible with slightly different capabilities? And as we're forced to acknowledge, could the ZenFone 3 Deluxe actually be getting the Snapdragon 823 as first reported, and all this mention of the 821 in these documents (as professional as they look), be some sort of typo?

There's an answer in there somewhere, but for the moment it remains just out of reach.

source: GizmoChina / Blog of Mobile (Translated) via The Verge

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ZenFone 3 Deluxe
  • Display 5.7" 1080 x 1920 pixels
  • Camera 23 MP / 8 MP front
  • Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 821, Quad-core, 2400 MHz
  • Storage 256 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 3000 mAh



1. f_u_006

Posts: 120; Member since: Mar 19, 2014

Absurd overheating comments in 1.. 2 .. 3..

5. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

So the 821 is just a slightly higher clocked 820, and the rumoured 823 up to 2.6Ghz which can get you at least a 145k score...ok

12. vincelongman

Posts: 5692; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

BTW it could be from Samsung's 14LPP process maturing, allowing Qualcomm to reduce voltages and increase clocks without increasing power consumption But increasing to 2.6GHz is a big increase and 14LPP should have been pretty mature since its Samsung's second 14nm process Hopefully that means its also improved Kryo cores, not just overclocked Like the improvement from 600->800 or 801->805 Instead of 800->801

2. combatmedic870

Posts: 984; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

Sony phone?

11. legiloca

Posts: 1676; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

PixelMaster Camera.... Ever heard of Sony releasing a Pixel f**king Master camera??!

3. Unordinary unregistered

Hopefully. Enough A9 A9x A10 A10x A11 A11x etc etc dominating the mobile SoC department for the years to come. Lets here some different headline for once.

9. phonearenarocks

Posts: 606; Member since: Mar 26, 2015

Pure BS!

13. Unordinary unregistered


17. EyeSea

Posts: 43; Member since: Jun 04, 2016

First, no, I asked why "web/javascript benchmarks" are a good proxy for "CPU performance," as Anandtech claimed in its preliminary review. Second, sure. I understand that the A8 has better "single-core" numbers, but is behind in "multicore" benchmarks. If you are not yet aware, most processor makers stopped competing for single core performance to reduce power consumption and heat dissipation since mid 2000 -- almost everyone in this business makes multicore processors now. Apple went dual-core about four years ago and isn't obviously going back to single core because their single-core numbers look so good or iOS users don't require "massive parallel processing." Third, why should I care how nVidia K1 performs or whether it's available on a phone? Lastly, since you love talking about the technology, perhaps you could explain my first question.

23. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Agreed. Also benchmarks are not precise measurement as they would need to run on identical OS to get result thats matter. If you run android on Apple A serie soc its will lag like hell. But apple iOS would fly on current gen SOC used in android. Dont forget both are ARM based and compatible with each other OS or could be with appropriate firmware. Unordinary is just a troll.

24. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

First: JavaScript is code, any code requires a cpu 'tick'. When you run any code....tada...cpu does work. Since JavaScript is non OS dependent it is a good simple cross specific test on how a CPU handles code thrown at it. Now of course browser interaction here is key too, but all things equal, its neutral ground. Now it is way more technical than that but its pretty much it. Second, they stopped the single core performance race because x86 chips can do more. They are more complex than a end to end instruction that has to 'wait' like ARM does. Now ARM employs new tricks so that it can act like an out of order execution is still 'basic' compared to x86. Also if you look at gaming pc's...dual cores for years, beyond your 2000 year date, still dominated. Only very recently has 4-8core gaming rigs actually mattered, and in benchmarks during a game...not usually a difference that is ZOMG. Also single thread is nothing to scoff at if the OS is designed to still use single core. At this point it is all about the OS and not fully about the 'cores'. And it truly shows considering games look identical no matter the snapdragon used. Also getting a 'full' explaination in a PA comment section is moot...use google for your answers.

15. iushnt

Posts: 3105; Member since: Feb 06, 2013


18. EyeSea

Posts: 43; Member since: Jun 04, 2016

It's the ugliest phone I've ever seen and the priciest, it has the worst performance/price ratio from all the phones the world. Even average Android phones have better hardware. Apple remains faithful to its good old slogan: "Yesterday's technology at tomorrow's prices". But for the brainwashed isheep, even a brick with an apple on it is like pure gold.

4. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

its just 0.15GHz faster than SD820... they shoul release SD823 (2.6GHz) by now:-/ and 10nm SD830 (quad 2.8GHz + quad 3.6GHz Kryo200) on Q4 :D

6. kumaran555

Posts: 117; Member since: Mar 07, 2016

Snapdragon sucks

7. Adsr14

Posts: 118; Member since: Aug 08, 2015

What doesn't suck then

8. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

To the internet? Nothing.

10. Adsr14

Posts: 118; Member since: Aug 08, 2015

Lol no if snapdragon sucks then which soc doesn't suck?

14. Unordinary unregistered

AX series by Apple.

16. iushnt

Posts: 3105; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

And why is that?

19. EyeSea

Posts: 43; Member since: Jun 04, 2016

Only a dumb person would compare a dumb phone to a smart phone. Lets compare a moped to a Ducati too.

20. EyeSea

Posts: 43; Member since: Jun 04, 2016

Apple is still a secretive, obsessively image-conscious organization that prefers to keep its Customers in the dark about its failings"

21. rency0722

Posts: 158; Member since: Jun 12, 2013

So we're having AA, AB and AC again? Hmmm

22. EyeSea

Posts: 43; Member since: Jun 04, 2016

S800 S801 S805 S808 Nothing new. Over clocked Cpu and Gpu. It's still using A57 theS820, not the A72.

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