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Android 8.1 update brings "perfectly smooth" scrolling

Android 8.1 update brings "perfectly smooth" scrolling

Posted: 03 Nov 2017, 10:26 , by Victor Hristov

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Android 8.1 update brings "perfectly smooth" scrolling

The Android 8.1 developer preview has been available for Google Pixel and Nexus phones for a few days, and while it seems like an iterative update, it brings some very noticeable and important performance improvements. More specifically, the 8.1 update brings some under the hood changes that make scrolling and the overall experience much, much smoother. We can testify to this as we have updated our original Google Pixel and the improvement in terms of performance is definitely noticeable.

Keep in mind that Android 8.1 is still a developer preview at the moment, so it's nowhere near completely finalized and we recommend waiting for the official version to arrive to your device.

Two words: buttery smooth

With this in mind, there is little official information from Google about what has changed. Reddit user scoularis speculates that "Google has implemented an extra frame buffer to the Android renderer, and the end-result is perfectly smooth v-synced scrolling with nary a dropped frame in sight". Again, we can testify to the experience, but we are yet to see a detailed technical explanation from Google about how it makes this possible.

The same user scoularis claims that the responsiveness suffers so very slightly in order to get to that super smooth performance, but the trade-off seems worthy.

Have any of you tried the Android 8.1 developer preview on your Nexus or Pixel phones? Let us know your opinion about it in the comments right below.

reference: Reddit

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posted on 03 Nov 2017, 10:27 1

1. mikehunta727 (unregistered)

Sounds like triple buffering

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:06 3

6. Settings (Posts: 2910; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)

Triple buffering exists since Project Butter was launched together with Jellybean.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:19

10. Cat97 (Posts: 1387; Member since: 02 Mar 2017)

Since triple buffering already existed, and an extra buffer was implemented, the answer is simple: quadruple buffering :)

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:33

13. trojan_horse (banned) (Posts: 5868; Member since: 06 May 2016)

Quadruple buffering? Will have to try this out ASAP.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 10:32 5

2. Hollowmost (Posts: 386; Member since: 10 Oct 2017)

You see apple .. this is how its done ...

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 10:34 12

3. Tziggy14 (Posts: 602; Member since: 02 Sep 2014)

you what Apple's done since 2007.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:16 1

9. Hollowmost (Posts: 386; Member since: 10 Oct 2017)

iOS 11 killed my sisters iPhone 5s

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 12:24

15. Wiencon (Posts: 2278; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)

Tbh she was stupid to update it, it is common knowledge that 3rd, and if Apple feels generous, 4th update always make devices almost unusable. This was true with iP4 on iOS7, 4S on 8/9, 5 on 10, 5S and 6 on 11.
I think I'm gonna update my SE to 11 since I heard great things from 6S users, but no way I'm gonna update to 12 unless it will keep from getting cancer while reading PA's comment section

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 14:24

21. dazed1 (Posts: 745; Member since: 28 Jul 2015)

Apple has been s**t in terms of performance since ios 7, one couldn't notice it since android was worse at the time. Since Marshmallow Apple is done, go watch Chris Pirilo, you will understand everything you need to know, ios drops frames like there is no tomorrow.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:09 3

7. kiko007 (Posts: 7336; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)

Diminish performance to simulate fluidity?

Why would Apple need to do that? IOS has been the smoother platform since its very inception, and will likely continue to be because Frame drops are still a very common thing on Android.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:34

14. bobby84 (banned) (Posts: 595; Member since: 13 May 2016)

I played on the X today for a while and it lagged swiping to the right once. This is iOS that never lagged had a frame rate drop from a brand new phone with awesome power and nothing one it, what's up with that.

Android doesn't drop frame rate anymore than iOS ex pixel. Some Android oems or carriers can't tinker with the software and cause that. But technically Android does lag.

Also I'm not impressed with the X don't like the yellow tint and camera was average compared to my note 8. Didn't use the new emojis or face id. It's not bad, it just I'm use to better, a bigger brighter, more vivid screen, more features, options etc. It just seems bacis

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 12:51

17. Furbal (unregistered)

Apple has gotten sloppy with software. 11 was terrible on my 7 plus. 11.1 is mostly good on my new 8+ but it still jitters or freezes in some spots.

Sharing photos from the photo App regularly causes a freeze, Apollo for reddit froze twice on me yesterday (developer fault more than likely but still annoying)

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 14:25

22. dazed1 (Posts: 745; Member since: 28 Jul 2015)

Stop spreading BS! ios is stuttery mess compared to Pixel, and even the Note 8.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 14:35

23. tedkord (Posts: 16756; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Stop it.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 16:16

25. JohnR (Posts: 120; Member since: 08 Sep 2017)

It is not. It’s buggy but still smooth as butter. The update to 11.1 fixed a lot of the problems

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 16:04

24. BlackhawkFlys (Posts: 874; Member since: 07 May 2014)

iPhone does the same thing.. They hide the lag behind the slow animantions.

posted on 05 Nov 2017, 19:36

34. cheetah2k (Posts: 2029; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)

I love android, but this should have been done many years ago.... Waiting till Version 8.1 is a bit of a, well...

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:00 7

4. adecvat (Posts: 509; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)

LMAO, I heard it before, wait a minute.
2012 Jelly bean 4.1 "buttery smooth"

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 17:43

29. lolatfailphones (Posts: 224; Member since: 08 Apr 2013)

Looooool "project stutter"

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:05 5

5. Boybawang (Posts: 204; Member since: 02 Jun 2013)

Yes Buttery Smooth before you install any app. After you install Facebook no more Buttery smooth.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:10

8. p51d007 (Posts: 642; Member since: 24 Nov 2013)

Shoot, I have Nougat 7, running on a Mate 9, with Nova Launcher...it's "buttery smooth" too.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 14:20

19. tedkord (Posts: 16756; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Nova is very smooth, always has been, even on phones that weren't smooth otherwise.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:29

11. libra89 (Posts: 1843; Member since: 15 Apr 2016)

I can always wait, no need to be a tester for me.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 11:31

12. FeloniusMonk (Posts: 18; Member since: 25 Oct 2017)

"The same user scoularis claims that the responsiveness suffers so very slightly in order to get to that super smooth performance"

They probably just slowed down the speed of scrolling, since the LEDs on the Pixel 2 XL couldn't keep up. Recall the video of rubbery black bars because the display couldn't turn on and off LEDs at the original scrolling rate.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 12:25

16. nodes (Posts: 1053; Member since: 06 Mar 2014)

this buttery smooth is thrown everywhere since Jelly Bean, so it's double butter smooth now? lol.

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 14:09

18. TMHKR (Posts: 198; Member since: 08 Dec 2012)

Android can never become -really- smooth, it's just the way it is (note: Android user)

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 14:20 1

20. tedkord (Posts: 16756; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Based on what?

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 16:18 1

26. JohnR (Posts: 120; Member since: 08 Sep 2017)

Based on daily use. It’s stutters and jerks by nature. Try scrolling a simple web page and see

posted on 03 Nov 2017, 16:41 3

27. Cicero (Posts: 1075; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)

Maybe you need a faster internet connection or a better browser or some more ram or a better flash drive with a better interface. Like scrolling web page with an old laptop comparing with a new one (8GB ram, pcie ssd, ac wifi, cpu ryzen or i8, gpu solution from nvidia or amd).