A notch is bad, but a waterdrop notch is OK, poll says

A notch is bad, but a waterdrop notch is OK, poll says
Ah, “The Notch” — the main topic of a ton of mean comments, hateful videos, and meme content directed towards the iPhone X. Well, at least at first it was the iPhone X, nowadays there's plenty of notches to go about. Maybe the one design trait that many were hoping would not become a trend once it showed up on the iPhone's forehead.

Now, bragging about how one phone has a notch, but it's actually smaller than so-and-so's notch is a real thing. And some smartphones are coming out with this “waterdrop” notch, which is tiny enough to hold the selfie camera and not much else.

So, we thought we'd ask — is a notch “OK” if it's small enough? As in — if it's just a waterdrop notch, is that safe from the fury and hate of the Internet? Well, here are our poll results:

Waterdrop notch vs Normal notch: which do you prefer?

Waterdrop for sure
58.63%
Better have the full notch up there
6.33%
Are you kidding me? A notch is a notch, it's just as bad
24.28%
I really don't care about or mind "notches"
10.76%

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28 Comments

1. cncrim

Posts: 1586; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

FaceID is not as useful as Touch ID beside cold day outside you want unlock without take off glove.

9. skips

Posts: 477; Member since: Oct 04, 2015

I found Touch ID to be a complete trainwreck at times when weather's warm, even hot, as our bodies start to sweat, you know. Just a tiny amount of oils accumulated on fingers can render the FPS useless. It fails to read it basically 50% of the time. At least, speaking from my own experience. : ( I got so miffed at it, I just turned mine off. At least Face ID has no limitations on temperatures (colder- gloves, warmer- sweat), which is quite an advantage in my book.

15. tedkord

Posts: 17303; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I've never had that happen with FPS on any phone I've owned.

20. skips

Posts: 477; Member since: Oct 04, 2015

guess my phones just retarded. : (

24. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Nope, that guy just doesn't have sweaty hands lol.

12. cmdacos

Posts: 4099; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Having both facial/iris unlock along with fps is even better

2. ahmadkun

Posts: 562; Member since: May 02, 2016

My opinion is it doesn't matter on ios because you don't need the notification bar mostly just to see the time and they moved the time to the side so not a big deal at all but still annoying when you play a game or watching youtube on full screen, .. if it comes to android one of the important things to me is the notification bar to see my notification icons in front of me all the time when they put the notch the room is too small it is just showing 2-3 icons and it looks too busy so if they do it this way ( water drop notch ) it will be a little bit fine because there will be enough room to show enough notifications .. but still looks annoying why just they leave the screens alone if they really concerned about bezeless design they should have thought about the chin ..

3. kryme

Posts: 468; Member since: Oct 24, 2013

The water drop is more acceptable to me... I like it... I won’t even call it a notch

4. nepalisherpa

Posts: 338; Member since: Jul 17, 2015

Here is my opinion on the notch. At first, I hated it, but, now that I think about it, it is "added screen". All info that is usually shown at the top bar have moved up giving extra screen space; however, what these manufacturers need to do is just black out the top area and not give applications access to that space. That way, we still gain extra space but videos/photos/games won't have that stupid notch blocking part of the display.

5. j_grouchy

Posts: 173; Member since: Nov 08, 2016

I really want someone to film a movie that puts all of the important stuff exactly in the portion of the frame where the notch would be.

14. DFranch

Posts: 533; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

This Exactly!!! The only thing I would add is the notch can't be too wide. For instance, I think the notch on the iPhone X is too wide, there is almost no usable space left. I also think the notch on the Pixel 3 is too tall. the Oneplus 6t nailed it.

16. tedkord

Posts: 17303; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

It's actually subtracted screen. Literally, part of the screen has been removed. It's obtrusive and unattractive,and an unnecessary compromise, considering Samsung was able to keep the top/bottom bezels, and have a higher screen to body ratio.

26. worldpeace

Posts: 3127; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Kinda half-full half-empty thingy, but I agree with you.. - It reduce notification icons that can be shown - It can't show battery percentage - It crop the screen when you playing games and watching movies.

6. LikeMyself

Posts: 631; Member since: Sep 23, 2013

I find that the waterdrop notch in fact looks cool. I hope OnePlus 6T has one, under display fingerprint which is confirmed & a usb 3.1 type c ffs

7. monkeyb

Posts: 409; Member since: Jan 17, 2018

So I'm guessing most users are saying they would go for in-screen fingerprint solution as the water drop notch will not be ale to accommodate all the face-id sensors. This is kinda saying I want form over function which is opposite of what android fans usually want. Are there other ways this notch can be avoided? Sure, maybe. But till some phone comes up with an actual mass produced phone that can beat Apple's face-id without the notch, its all bulls**t talk. The first gen fingerprint unlock by Apple was not great but vastly improved over 2 years. While almost all android phone manufacturers are investing heavily into in-screen fingerprint tech. I am eagerly waiting for the advancement of face-id from Apple.

17. tedkord

Posts: 17303; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

They already have beaten Apple's face id - with fingerprint readers. Faster, more secure, more accurate.

19. monkeyb

Posts: 409; Member since: Jan 17, 2018

Ahh. I need to correct myself. I was asking for phones that have face-id sensors that are better than Apple. If you love tech, like I was saying, you will be more focussed on how amazing an upgraded face-id will be. Hey, if so many people hate the notch, why will the latest pixel leak show that it is going to use a notch.

21. cmdacos

Posts: 4099; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

What makes you think the pixel 3xl is going to sell?

22. monkeyb

Posts: 409; Member since: Jan 17, 2018

Because Pixel phones are amazing. An individuals taste about the notch will be a very small issue once people have the Pixel in their hands. Pixel's camera and vanilla software is amazing.

23. cmdacos

Posts: 4099; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

No pixel has ever sold in significant numbers. Having a big saggy tit for a unibrow isn't going to help that.

27. worldpeace

Posts: 3127; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Vivo Find X, and Mi8 3D face-recognition is technically more advance than Apple's. (And soon released, Mate 20) They're faster and can map more dots.

25. RoyalMike unregistered

Check out oppo's find x solution,, waiting for real brands to go that way

8. skips

Posts: 477; Member since: Oct 04, 2015

A notch is fine as long as you have a solid excuse for it. Apple had Face ID - pico projector, various sensors, infrared camera, etc. All of those sensors should've went somewhere and they desperately NEEDED a new design for iPhone as the old one was recycled FOR YEARS. Most other companies, especially at first when iPhone X launched, added a full notch for the sake of following Apples footsteps. Same front camera with sensors for ambient light sensors. They had no excuse for it, for gods sake. I strongly believe if it weren't for Apple, noone would've bothered, at most it would've been just a tiny cutout notch like Essential Phone and Sharp. Even the X's rear camera layout was copied by companies, if not just mimicked in a way. Xiaomi Mi A2, Mi 8, Lenovo Z5, Recent Huawei phones, HTC U12 Life's camera layout, Motorola One devices....Can't companies have their own identity and their OWN design language nowadays without trying to mimick the latest iPhone, just to attract customers who want a cheaper "iPhone". When Huawei even bothered to compare their notch to Apple's, by stating that - ey ours smaller dudes, our better. I mean, yes, you had less hardware for that notch too, you could've just lived without it AT ALL. It was just pathetic, lmao. thank god samsung is the sensible one today.

13. Guaire

Posts: 885; Member since: Oct 15, 2014

Apple don't have ANY excuse let alone a solid one for the notch. It's just a design choice for better or worse. They could put Face ID hardware on an iPhone 8 for example. That hardware is not required a notch, and certainly they didn't need that Face ID hardware at all. Also desperately needing a new design was not a solid excuse for this design. They probably had many other options. Apple designed it that way, because they wanted an illusion of full screen. And all of those different near bezelless designs has their own drawbacks anyways. And yes, others mostly wanted a cheaper iPhone, because it always sells well. That's a solid reason. Past year almost whole smartphone market went after Samsung S8 and LG G7. And many Android manufacturers already are testing waters with different designs. And half the notch contains non-Face ID hardware anyways. Face ID or a similar kind of face recognition system is not irreplaceable, but a speaker and front camera is, so if any company which wanna build a near full screen phone, for a notch they have as solid excuse as Apple.

10. misha1

Posts: 1; Member since: Sep 11, 2018

It looks like a BUTT notch though. I really hate this idea, let it die!...

11. painnpanic

Posts: 33; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

The notch wouldn't be so bad if you had the option to blacken both sides or let it stand by itself. Why not offer that feature?

18. tedkord

Posts: 17303; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

That would be better, but it's still a compromise that isn't necessary.

28. worldpeace

Posts: 3127; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

"Embrace the notch" they said that last year.

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