Windows Phone sales are "small, but growing fast"
Windows Phone is still struggling to get traction in Western markets, but devices running on Microsoft’s mobile platform are now outselling the iPhone in places like India and Latin America. No wonder - after all we’re talking about a totally different market presence as affordable devices like the Lumia 520 are selling the most there, while the iPhone remains a nearly-luxury item. In those locations “the market dynamics play better to what we are good at,” Belfiore added.
The statements of the executive come right after Microsoft officially unveiled Windows Phone Update 3, a version that enables support for larger displays in so called phablets, sharper 1080p resolution and quad-core chips. Update 3 is clearly focused towards higher-end devices, while earlier Windows Phone updates centered around bringing prices down and allowing for less powerful phones to run the platform.
However when faced with a common critique that Windows Phone is getting updated too slowly, running on a very long update cycle, Belfiore is quick to disagree. “The work we are doing is valuable, and a lot of people aren’t aware of it,” he said.
1. sprockkets (Posts: 1307; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
"We're not dead" !
He says he's not dead.
"We're getting better!"
See! He's getting better!
"We feel happy! We feel happy...ughhh!"
16. papss (unregistered)
Android grew fast because ss.. what's your point?
18. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Actually before Samsung didn't have much of a phone brand name recognition, while Nokia was well established in terms of brand name... Don't want to play devils advocate but there is a difference
22. papss (unregistered)
Before SS Google wasn't a big player in the mobile world. Without SS and their series of phones Google might not have been what they are today.
28. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
What I'm trying to say is that Samsung used Android to climb to the top, Nokia was already at the top when it used windows trying to keep some market, before Samsung was HTC or the droid (in fact droid was a well known name before the galaxy series appeared) not saying that android would be where it is without Samsung but that it cannot be compared on e with the other
33. UrbanPhantom (Posts: 949; Member since: 30 Oct 2012)
Protozeloz, did you not realize Symbian was already in sharp decline long before WP was adopted by Nokia? Read up, and get your history straight...
Nokia clearly should have adopted Android at a much earlier stage, but didn't. That is why they almost went broke. However, there's no point blaming Microsoft for Nokia's past stupidity or unwillingness to change. As for WP8, it is a quick and intutive OS, and people are either dumb or blind if they honestly believe that it will fail to gain additional market share.
34. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
1. For starers I haven't said Nokia was not in decline, but brand recognition was still quite high.
2. I'm not debating weather Microsoft will fail or not, or how intuitive the UI and GUI is.
3. All I'm saying is that comparing the windows phone-nokia relationship and success with android-samsung it's not a legitimate comparison, I rest my case
31. DigitalJedi_X2 (banned) (Posts: 346; Member since: 30 Jan 2012)
Not true. Before Samsung it was HTC with the EVO and Motorola when they launched the Droid. Both helped propel Android to stardom and a higher market share than iOS. Afterwards Samsung came along and brought them to new heights.
19. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1633; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)
not really it grew from Google's willingness to progress!
21. papss (unregistered)
Keep telling yourself that.
25. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8825; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Galaxy S led the way to Android being as popular as it is today.
27. sprockkets (Posts: 1307; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Before that was the original Motorola droid
2. sri_tech (Posts: 188; Member since: 21 May 2013)
Its only a matter of time before Windows phone overtake iPhone in many markets around the world including some important European markets.
Iphone is being saved by carrier contracts in USA which is why even android can't really dent iPhone sales much.
26. dickwyn (Posts: 601; Member since: 07 May 2012)
i can sense that its coming very soon if Apple does not do anything in iOS 8 and continue to price the iPhone 5C at high prices
3. sergiobr (Posts: 429; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
What Latin American ??? In Brasil we love Android. No WP at all ! Sammy is the king here. I NEVER saw a WP in the streets (!?)
6. VLaRueC (Posts: 129; Member since: 18 Dec 2012)
Maybe because those with Windows phones don't live on the streets. :) I'm sorry....that was to easy..
37. Jehovah (Posts: 69; Member since: 25 Jun 2013)
What WP needs in Brazil is a dual-sim version of the Lumia 520 at the price range of R$ 400 (USD 180), yes our smatphone prices are absurdly high. This would produce some serious damage at the low end Android market share, populated by lesser devices. The situation will hardly change at the flagship front any time soon, I´m afraid. The Nokia is still a well regarded as reliable and nearly indestructible device, but WP is either unknow or not percived as viable bet. Most people still ask me why would I choose WP (I like it, makes me feel like I escaped the mainstream and have something new, unique, but I digress).
4. rms.max (Posts: 82; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
So you had to delay the "update 3 " to pull nokia down a bit & buy it.
5. akki20892 (Posts: 3617; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
WP is nothing without nokia. they still don't know why wp is growing faster lol.
10. rms.max (Posts: 82; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
agreed akki. Wp was(still is) such immature OS. without nokia they(wp) would be extinct .
8. rms.max (Posts: 82; Member since: 26 Sep 2012)
Belfiore “The work we are doing is valuable". of course, buying nokia (using ELOP ) is such a valuable work.
12. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8825; Member since: 14 May 2012)
WP market share is still depressing. It's a great OS, but the updates did take too long to be released. All WP8 needs is great marketing, not this 'Scroogled' campaign.
14. NAWF_SIDE (banned) (Posts: 40; Member since: 10 Oct 2013)
Developers, developers, developers!!!
15. Reality_Check (Posts: 277; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Maybe Indians and Latin-American people realize that it's not worth the premium price they pay for the "luxury" phone?
17. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Apple can never be sucessful in India with their definition of "Affordable"
20. pookiewood (Posts: 623; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
I don't get why y'all say WP updates releases take too long. This year we got GDR1, 2 and now 3 is coming out! WTF do ya'll want weekly updates? When has Google or Apple been on an accelerated update cycle? With Google you have to worry if they phone you bought will even be supported longer than 6 months. Apple? I'm not sure but aren't they on a one yearly update cycle? Maybe 2?
23. kpfirefighter (Posts: 160; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Do windows phones put all that extra crap that samsung puts on their phones? Cause I was hoping for the nokia 1520 to come to verizon with the specs that thing is packing. But if it has all that extra apps then it's about worthless and I'll just get the note 3. Any advice?
30. papss (unregistered)
I would say wait and see what the 1520 brings... The note 3 is amazing though
32. pookiewood (Posts: 623; Member since: 05 Mar 2012)
No bloatware. Also as long as it's not a built in MS APP you can easily remove it. Guessing you mean like Android which it is nowhere near. (TouchWiz)
35. cdgoin (Posts: 369; Member since: 28 Jul 2010)
Not as much.. pretty easy to remove. IN the case of Nokia apps, some you have to actually download and install they dont assume you want them from the start. Which was kind of weird given the big thing about the 925 was the camera, and had to know the Nokia Pro Cam app was their to install.. Should have been up front and on the phone from launch..
36. JunkCreek (Posts: 406; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Droid become popular since motorola, htc and sony xperia. Samsung bring on the newest android os, that brings samsung on the top, while the other brands are "too afraid" to use newest android os on the table.
Android 2.3, samsung bring it on even the low end device, while other still brings 2.2.
38. profperez1 (Posts: 49; Member since: 08 May 2012)
I left my Verizon Wp for a T-Mobile iPhone 5. I thought I really wanted these "important" APPS on my phone. Banking, insurance, etc. I have had the iPhone/APPS for 2 months---not using them! So I just bought a used WP 520. I find that Wp are faster and easy on the thumbs.Not going to sell the iPhone---just a nice device. If anyone wants to send me a nice Android that uses a micro sim---I will use that as well!
39. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1119; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I started looking to buy a smart phone When Windows 7 smart phones first came out. Apple iphones and Android smart phones looked Alright to me but The Windows smart phones with their tiles that update information inside the tiles seemed like a more sophisticated UI to me. I waited till windows 8 to get a smart phone. I give all new operating systems 2 years to mature to a useful state Windows 8 smart phone OS debut was in June 2012 so as far as I am concerned Windows smart phones have until june 2014 to have all the bugs worked out. I think the are right on time to get it right. the next big update is the Windows phone 8.1 Blue update due early 2014, this Update is mainly a soft ware update that reset and add windows 8.1 smartphone API's and Windows on arms tablets API'S in such a way that they can use the same apps.
This is a huge move for Microsoft