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Why a rear finger scanner on the Galaxy S8? Samsung ran out of time with the 'in-display' tech by Synaptics

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Why a rear finger scanner on the Galaxy S8? Samsung ran out of time with the 'in-display' tech by Synaptics
If you, like us, have been wondering why is Samsung going with a rear finger scanner for the S8 that is in one unorthodox place right next to the camera on the back, a new report out of Korea sheds some light on the matter. It turns out that Samsung may have simply run out of time to implement Synaptics' new in-display finger sensing technology. This one is still in its nascence, and there is no manufacturer that has fully implemented it yet. Moreover, the Galaxy S8 is likely to come with a unique curved display with a new resolution in order to fit in the trendy 2:1 aspect ratio, like the LG G6 does, so Samsung might have focused on getting the more important screen characteristics right first. 

According to one insider source: "Samsung poured resources into Synaptics’ fledgling technology last year but the results were frustrating. With the production imminent, the company had to decide to relocate the fingerprint scanning home button to the back of the device at the last minute." There you have it. Synaptics is indeed talking about in-screen finger sensing at a preset area as the current step in its developments of the technology, which would imply it is still not completely out of the testing phase, while the next and final step would be placing a finger scanning area anywhere on the screen that the manufacture chooses. 

That's still some time off, but, given that Apple will have a bit more time before it announces an eventual OLED iPhone 8, we are curious if it will have the in-display sensing tech that the Galaxy S8 eschewed. That could steal a bit off the Galaxy thunder, but Apple has never been one to jump on nascent technologies ahead of the pack before they have been proven in the market, so we'll see how it all pans out.

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posted on 13 Mar 2017, 05:31 21

1. Settings (Posts: 2266; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


We know what happens when Samsung rush things...

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 09:57 4

19. ibend (Posts: 6456; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


their fingerprint sensor will explode?
/s

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 10:13 5

24. ShadowSnypa786 (Posts: 172; Member since: 06 Jan 2017)


Considering they make alot of components for Pixel, Iphones, Huawei im sure it be ok. Yes samsung even make batteries for iphones.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/oops-samsung-sdi-is-in-apples-supplier-list.1994723/

Yet people still wanna bring up the past and not the future.

Maybe all these other companies should find someone else to make the components for them??

Guess even after them rushing things and exploding phones companies like Apple, Google, Huawei and Snapdragon need SAMSUNG!!

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 10:23 3

25. Settings (Posts: 2266; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


Its the pre explosion list. Things might have change especially when choosing the battery supplier.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 11:16 1

27. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 393; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


i will never understand how anyone figures the N7 was rushed. all Notes were released withen the same 3 months...

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 12:10

30. piyath (Posts: 883; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)


lol......... yes the world know that.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 12:12 1

32. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 393; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


"We know what happens when Samsung rush things..."

seems someone doesnt.

posted on 15 Mar 2017, 18:04

36. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1079; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


What contributed to the note 7 problem was the sharp curve on the edge of the phone and tightness of the chassis. This squeezed the anodes and cathodes together inside the battery often causing a short, which then results in a non-passive thermal event.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 05:32 5

2. wando77 (Posts: 1076; Member since: 23 Aug 2012)


Maybe saving that and 4k screen for the note 8 to make up for the note 7

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 05:32 5

3. haruken (Posts: 74; Member since: 06 Nov 2013)


So basically it was just bad timing, and Samsung is involved in the development of the tech.
Yet I can already see the S9 reviews mentioning how "Samsung copied Apple" next year.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 07:16 3

12. Clars123 (Posts: 924; Member since: 16 Mar 2015)


LOL..Samsung copied Apple next year..the accuracy.It's ridiculous isnt it. Saw an article saying that the curved 'all screen' design of the S8 is copying the anniversary iPhone

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 12:11

31. piyath (Posts: 883; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)


That's how world works. Apple also had bad times like that. Don't get depressed over that.....lol

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 05:33 3

4. mobiledigger (Posts: 38; Member since: 24 Sep 2015)


Guess we'll see it on the Note 8, then

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 08:27

15. torr310 (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


And guess some people will skip the S8 for Note 8 then.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 09:22 1

18. trojan_horse (Posts: 3962; Member since: 06 May 2016)


And guess those who wanted the Not8 weren't even considering getting the S8 in the first place.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 12:28

33. phonearenarocks (Posts: 518; Member since: 26 Mar 2015)


I was

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 05:35 4

5. btbotimtim (Posts: 246; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)


daniel p, do you translate articles from korean newspaper or internet media?

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 05:48 3

6. Cat97 (Posts: 202; Member since: 02 Mar 2017)


Placing the fingerprint scanner on the back was a very big mistake from Samsung. A better move would have been to place it in the small bottom bezel, without a clickable button maybe. Sony placed it in the power button, so a narrow fingerprint scanner is possible. Iris scanner could save the day, but the front-placed fingerprint scanner remains the best option by far.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 06:30 7

7. trojan_horse (Posts: 3962; Member since: 06 May 2016)


"Placing the fingerprint scanner on the back was a very big mistake from Samsung."

Just like how people slammed LG for putting the volumes button at the back of the G2...yet it later became the G2's selling point, with reviewers and comments on YouTube praising it.

SMH

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 06:52 2

9. Cat97 (Posts: 202; Member since: 02 Mar 2017)


Actually LG reverted to putting the volume buttons on the side since more than one year ago, due to criticism (imagine adjusting the speakerphone volume in a variety of situations like when on the table or on a car cradle). If this was the selling point, they would have kept it. Same with the fingerprint sensor. When it's on the back, you can't unlock your phone while in a table or on a car cradle.

SMHx2

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 07:10 3

11. trojan_horse (Posts: 3962; Member since: 06 May 2016)


"Actually LG reverted to putting the volume buttons on the side since more than one year ago, due to criticism"

What proves that LG ditched the volume buttons at the back due to criticism?
LG simply could have felt it was time to change design, as the volume buttons at the back stopped being a selling point in 2015, probably because LG's consumers wanted something different, or because it wasn't practical enough on the G5's metal build... or perhaps, because the back of the G5 was already occupied by dual-cameras and a fingerprint scanner.

But it was a selling point back in 2013 with the highly acclaimed LG G2, as well as the LG G3.

So, my point still stands.

SMHx3

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 09:10

17. Settings (Posts: 2266; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


How many shakes does one SMH count? A SMHx3 would be crazy.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 13:16

34. bigcjm (Posts: 53; Member since: 27 Jul 2014)


Ummm but since they have the iris scanner they get rid of the redundancy of having finger print scanner that was way more convenient than the iris. now if folks don't want to pick the phone of the desk they tap the screen and scan the eyes.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 06:33 8

8. STRANG3R (Posts: 25; Member since: 24 Sep 2015)


There is iphone in every phone arena article, i have heard about on screen fingerprint scanner since 2 years and many renders but what apple gave is actually same sh!t with different colours.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 07:34

13. AronWunarso (Posts: 45; Member since: 21 Feb 2016)


Well, that's Phone Arena.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 06:52 4

10. ciprian.ruse (Posts: 307; Member since: 13 May 2014)


I understand this but why tf did they placed the fingerprint scanner that hight?

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 07:39

14. cornel222 (Posts: 21; Member since: 05 Jan 2015)


to be honest we so far havent seen any pictures with the back of the phone and finger print scaner or camera or flash , all the leaks ive seen so far are with the front of the phone , for me personaly its a little awakard the finger print scaner position near the camera

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 08:50

16. nctx77 (Posts: 2331; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


First of all, this is not one of those things that need to be proven in the market. Either it works or it don't. Either it's ready for production or it isnt. Also, this has been rumored for the iPhone for a couple of years now. With the rumor that the phone will possibly be delayed until November, there is plenty of time. One thing you won't see is Touch ID on the back!

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 09:58

20. drifter77 (Posts: 270; Member since: 12 Jun 2015)


So why not keep the home button on the front and minimize the bottom bezel? This back location is pretty weird, not even centered like most phones with a rear fingerprint scanner.

posted on 13 Mar 2017, 10:00

21. jeroome86 (Posts: 1853; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


Just don't rush the Note out. Too late for the S8 but still have time to do right with the Note 8.

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