Verizon sold more Android phones than iPhones in Q2 2012
While last quarter, more than half of the smartphones Verizon sold to customers were iPhones, now the numbers have switched places and Android took the lead. In the first quarter of 2012, Big Red sold 3.2 million iPhones, and now that number has dropped by half a million.
Nothing outworldly given that the iPhone was launched in October, so this was its third quarter on the market, and customers are starting to anticipate the new iPhone. Android sales on the other hand were steady.
It’s interesting to see how the proportion of iPhones versus Androids sold will change in the ongoing third quarter. We have the huge launch of the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III that will probably swing it even further in favor of Android. The iPhone could still change that if a new LTE-enabled Apple device launches in September, if not the real battle will be delayed for the last quarter of 2012.
source: Verizon Wireless
2. Droid_X_Doug posted on 19 Jul 2012, 09:46 21 4
Waiting for little taco to deny the facts - Android rules!
4. iamcc posted on 19 Jul 2012, 09:58 6 12
Yes but if you consider that Verizon only has two models of the iPhone it isn't really best to compare it to ALL Android sales.
It is good for Android but in regards to taco he is probably correct that Verizon sold more iPhones (4 or 4S) than the Droid RAZR, unless you include the MAXX.
14. JessJess (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:15 5 25
Yeah considering you can probably get phones running android in cracker boxs these days.
This is the reason androids OS share is higher. The iPhone is one device selling at £399+. I can buy a phone running android for £49.99.
22. iamcc posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:25 12 4
Think what you want Jess, that is not the reality.
41. JessJess (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 11:29 5 14
Really? I'm allowed to have an opinion on here than isn't 'android yay! iPhone boo?' ;)
And I do not see how anyone can deny that the flood of very cheap android devices does cause inflation of its OS share.
45. PhoneArenaUser posted on 19 Jul 2012, 11:51 7 0
No one says that you can't have your own opinion! ;)
50. SuperAndroidEvo posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:31 8 3
Easy tiger. lol
You can have an opinion. Remember it's not Android's or Google's fault that OEM's sell Android devices for $49.99. People choose Android over Apple. That is fact.
In the U.S. Apple has it's biggest market share. Outside of the U.S. Apple market share is almost nothing.
China the largest market in the world is embracing Android not Apple, & so is India & the rest of Asia.
And one more thing, it's not a flood of Android devices if there is a demand for them. Remember Android almost ACTIVATES 1,000,000 devices PER DAY. That is from demand not flooding of the market as you so cleverly stated.
I say Android yay! ;)
54. Sniggly posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:37 7 1
The "flood" of cheap Android devices helps some, but not as much as you insinuate. Usually our cheap Android phones (meaning Android phones built with low specs/built cheaply) don't sell nearly as well as the higher end ones.
What usually sell really well are the Android phones that started out high end and expensive but drop in price as they age. For instance, the 100 dollar Razr is a much hotter item than the 300 dollar Razr was.
Also, those "cheap" Android phones have, more often than not, bit Android in the ass. Usually, when I see an Android to iPhone convert, it's someone who happened to buy a really s**tty/cheap Android phone to begin with, and then judge the entire ecosystem by that one device. This, by the way, is a pretty stupid stance to take.
Now, you can't sit there and make your claims about the contributions of cheap Android phones without also acknowledging the contributions of "the fifty dollar iPhone." We sell just as many of those as we do the 4S. Even at 100 dollars the 4 has been a consistent seller.
Also, the iPhone has the power of constant media exposure and the ongoing myth that the most advertised product is somehow also the best. The other day I had a lady openly acknowledge that Android was a completely better operating system and that she loved it, but holy s**t she was determined to get that iPhone, and she did. The best reason she managed to give was that her boyfriend had one.
Android has to fight an uphill battle against the Cult of I's exposure. I'd say that for an OS which still lags behind in media exposure and gets derided by the major news outlets all the time, the Android Alliance does pretty damn well for itself.
58. SuperAndroidEvo posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:48 4 2
Exactly out of those nearly 1,000,000 daily activations about less than a 3rd are mid to low end Android devices.
The high end Samsung's, HTC's, Sony's, Motorola's, Pantech's, Meizu's & ZTE's all outsell the mid to low end Android devices all the time.
Remember the Samsung Galaxy S II was last years TOP OF THE LINE high-end phone, but this years top of the line mid-end phone, & next years top of the line low-end phone if the keep selling it. That is how tech moves.
34. tedkord posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:52 6 1
The iPhone is 3 phones, not 1. What do you want to bet the Galaxy S3 will outsell all three versions in the third quarter on Verizon?
The reason Android share is higher is it offers choices. Not everyone wants what an iPhone offers. Some want a hardware keyboard. There's an Android for that. Some want a large screen. There's an Android for that. Etc...
It has very little to do with price points. If pride were the only determinant, well, there's an iPhone for that. In the US, you can get an iPhone 3gs free, a 4 for $99 and the 4s for $200.
Assuming all else was equal, and price was the determining factor, you'd expect an even split between iOS and Android, since they both cover the full gamut of prices. What you get in reality is worldwide a 2 to 1 edge for Android. That says that price is not the determining factor.
69. thedarkside posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:25 0 0
verizon only has the 4 and 4s. so its only two iphones, but you are correct.
15. wsucoug13 posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:15 6 2
Actually that is the only way to compare it. You cannot compare the iPhone to one android as there are multiple that run the OS. You must compare Android OS vs. Apples iOS due to the fact the iPhone is the only phone with iOS, this ends up being Android vs. iPhone.
23. kingpet13 posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:29 7 3
While that is true, i believe that if ios had twenty differet options, ios sales numbers would not change much. The reson people buy the iphone, is normally because they like ios or think android will be to complicated for them. Someone who prefers android over ios or vice versa prefer the os not the specs. If anyone says it's because android offers cheaper options, just look at the 3gs. In reality if you have on highend (4s) one midrange (4) and one free lowend (3gs) phone, yiu will sell just as much as if you had 20 different of each phone. If android only offered the s2, nexus and S3 I believe they could still sell just as well. Although people like having options for specs and design, without them the os choice will not change. I donot believe theese sales numbers would be any different unless one os does not offer one of the three main consumer targetting price/spec range(cheap,midprice,expensive). But that is just my oppinion.
26. iamcc posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:38 4 1
I agree my only point is that this comparison would be considered more "fair" if it was on a network like AT&T where they have "all" of the iPhone models that are still available to sell.
I actually think the fact that iOS only has a few models has little effect on this as you mentioned above my point was just that Verizon is not the best carrier to compare iOS vs Android market share.
37. kingpet13 posted on 19 Jul 2012, 11:00 4 0
I'm sorry I did not do my research on that comment. For some reason i thought verizon got all available iPhone models. Maybe next time I'll do my homework before I post.... I-I mean I did my dog just ate it : P
27. quakan posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:38 0 3
Well on VZW there's no low-end 3GS, just your high end and mid range, in your words.
31. iamcc posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:50 3 0
That's my point...
35. iamcc posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:54 2 0
Doh, didn't realize you were replying to someone else... my bad.
60. thedarkside posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:53 1 3
so you would consider the sales of the iphone 4 and 4s outsold the razr... but not include the maxx? stupid ifan.
66. iamcc posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:08 0 0
If you knew anything you would realize I am no ifan...
I have a Galaxy Nexus and would not consider buying an iOS device unless several major changes were made.
70. thedarkside posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:30 1 0
i dont believe that was in direct response to you. sorry cc.
43. whothisperson posted on 19 Jul 2012, 11:43 3 1
The fact that you guys always bring up taco, he has already won... I don't care for his comments, he is just seeking attention for which you guys have already given him with comments like "waiting for taco's comment"
65. Whateverman posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:02 1 0
Thank you! Have your opinion, state your opinion, and try not to make the replies personal. Don't consume yourselves with anyone else will say. All your doing adding value to his/her opinion above your own because now the people who knew nothing about him/her have stopped reading your comments to go look for taco's.
49. Elvis. posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:26 4 0
Who is taco? And why everyone mentions him in every Apple related article?
51. PhoneArenaUser posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:31 8 0
You are new here, right? :)
53. SuperAndroidEvo posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:35 5 4
taco50 is low key now. During his hay-day he was the ultimate i$heep. Now he is more of a lurker than anything else.
He shows up here & there. One day you WILL run into him. We all have.
56. Sniggly posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:41 6 2
Yeah, since he seemingly got banned he's been quieter. I'm happy for that; I still remember that at his most outrageous he accused Android of being an OS for "poor people" and mocked Android users for not having the money for an iPhone or a carrier that offered it.
84. mas11 posted on 19 Jul 2012, 14:12 2 1
Haha yeah I got my DROID 4 on sale for $100 about a month after it came out. I could have got an iPhone 4 for the same price, but I wanted a modern phone with Lte.
114. MISTER_H (banned) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 21:14 0 0
hes banned again.
55. wsucoug13 posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:38 2 3
Taco is a huge iPhone fan who comes on this site and makes very bias and irrational comments against android. He gets all the android fans all pissed off then there will be loooonnggggg arguments between them usually saying the same s**t over and over. Very entertaining
61. thedarkside posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:54 2 2
he is the trolliest of trolls, the noobiest of noobs, and hes a dumb@ss.
113. stealthd posted on 19 Jul 2012, 19:36 0 0
The fact is OS share is bragging points for fanboys and nothing more. The numbers haven't made developers prefer Android, and they haven't brought significant revenue to Google. It's interesting to compare them, but the reality is the numbers are pretty trivial.
24. quakan posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:30 2 2
It's still more impressive that the only two iPhones on VZW were able to only be oversold by 200K versus VZW's entire Android lineup.
48. lzsbleach posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:11 1 0
Maybe it has to also do with to much selection for an android handset, sometimes people can be indecisive. With the iphone theres only 2 selection old or new. People like simple stuff, life is already complicated. But still apple still is doing good I would think Android would have a wider gap then that.
3. cornerofthemoon posted on 19 Jul 2012, 09:49 3 1
not surprising the iPhone 4(S) design is longer in the tooth than a starving vampire.
5. quakan posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:02 9 11
I bought an iPhone in Q2...I love it and look forward to what the next iPhones will bring.
7. iamcc posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:04 4 3
It's sad that you got thumbs down for that comment... lol
17. quakan posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:18 3 5
I knew I would lol, but oh well. I was being honest.
25. wsucoug13 posted on 19 Jul 2012, 10:31 6 2
I am a total Android fan but it annoys me when people hate for nothing. I give you a thumbs up lol
38. sprockkets posted on 19 Jul 2012, 11:16 1 1
You got rated down for posting a superfluous comment. For stuff like that I neither up or down the comment.
39. quakan posted on 19 Jul 2012, 11:26 1 5
So you deserve to be thumbed down for your superfluous comment.
42. JessJess (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 11:39 1 7
I feel your pain XD thumbs up though. I own an iPhone 4S too. I've bee
44. JessJess (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 11:49 5 4
I've been reasonably happy with it. My biggest gripe is the battery life though. Looking ahead to the iP5.
I'd be quite happy to buy an android device if it suits me better though. I love iOS devices and what they offer. I really do not get the bitterness I see on here through comments though at times. Oh well.
47. PhoneArenaUser posted on 19 Jul 2012, 11:56 4 0
"My biggest gripe is the battery life though."
What about Motorola Razr Maxx ?
57. Sniggly posted on 19 Jul 2012, 12:47 12 3
I'd say frustration is a better term.
Some of us are salespeople who genuinely love tech and, seeing the value the Android OS offers, get very tired of people buying an iPhone because it's what their friends have, it's all they hear about on the news/in movies, because of the compatibility with iTunes (which I maintain is a terrible service which Amazon and Google have eclipsed) or because IOS is "simpler."
We are also sick of Apple's thermonuclear war on Android, and the fact that people don't seem to give a s**t that they're throwing their money at a company which doesn't give a rats ass about their freedom as consumers, a fact they have demonstrated in many colorful ways.
67. thedarkside posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:16 3 1
you sir are my new best friend. i dont believe i couldve put that any better.
71. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:39 3 6
It's equally frustrating the opposite way around. There are so many people who completely miss the value iOS offers and how having the hardware and OS designed and developed by the same company leads to a much more enjoyable and rewarding user experience. Tie that up with iTunes which affords you an easy and convenient way to purchase content for your device, sync said content to your device, and keep your device securely backed up, I fail to understand why anyone would want to take a step back from this level of convenience.
Re. money, I am much more inclined to throw money at Apple who are offering me well rounded products that look and work great (both individually and together), and are amazingly well supported. I am less inclinded to throw money at a company like Google who simply make an OS as a means to sell your eyeballs to advertisers and violate your privacy, and who allow networks and manufacturers to chop and change the OS, more often than not leading to a much poorer user experience than Google themselves designed.
All I can say is that I am glad we do have Apple as a player in the market; I certainly wouldn't want to have no choice but to settle for an Android or some other inferior device just because other people prefer those choices.
72. iamcc posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:46 4 3
I appreciate your comment but trying to say you would be "settling" for an Android or other "inferior device" just shows how blind you really are.
87. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 14:25 1 2
How does trying the available options and having an opinion on what I prefer make me 'blind'? To my mind, that makes me a very informed consumer!
76. Sniggly posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:55 6 2
I don't miss iOS's value. I agree that the operating system generally works well. However, I will disagree with some points.
First, iTunes is anything but easy or convenient when it comes to backing your device up. I have complaints from customers all the time that backing their stuff up to iTunes is a pain in the ass.
On the other hand, Google's backup, while not centralized, is certainly easy.
Next, Apple's products are anything but well rounded. They're all the same damn thing. Basically, do you want an iPod, an iPod with a phone attached, or a giant iPod?
Google may want to sell advertising, but this bulls**t about violating privacy is not only exaggerated but hypocritical. Google makes it completely voluntary for you to opt into their ads and to collect info about you, and never sells that data to anyone else. Furthermore, since their only motivation IS to sell ads, I'm more than happy to let them have some of my information. If they had any insidious motivations for the info collecting, I'd be the first to drop them.
Also, which company got in trouble last year for tracking its customers for years without their knowledge or consent? Yeah, that was Apple.
And a "much poorer" user experience? Ice Cream Sandwich is the first time stock Android has really turned out better than the manufacturer skins. Blur, Sense and Touchwiz all did a great job of adding functionality which, by the way, was eventually incorporated into the OS itself. The variety is also appreciated, though at this point I'm not a fan of the Touchwiz skin of Ice Cream Sandwich.
And lastly, I am not arguing against having Apple in the marketplace. Rather, I am against Apple's attitude that THEY be the ONLY player in it.
88. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 14:33 2 3
I'd disgaree. Connecting my phone to the computer and having a full backup of the device that can be transferred to another iPhone is, IMO, a much more thorough and convenient process than having only a few aspects of the device backed up to a cloud server.
Yeah I do think Android is a much poorer user experience. ICS definitely improved this massively over Gingerbread, but I still think Google have some way to go before they can match iOS in this respect. I also think Google need to exert tighter control over their OS and stop networks and manufacturers from messing around with the core OS and UI so that this improved UI and experience benefits many more people.
I don't think Apple want to be the only player in the market. They've always expressed how they thrive on healthy competition as it pushes them to do better. However, I think it's what you define as healthy competition to comes into conflict with what Apple would consider healthy competition.
95. retrokick posted on 19 Jul 2012, 15:25 0 0
I agree TREMENDOUSLY on one point -- carriers need to be stripped of the right to modify the OS!!! Even back before smartphones got huge and I was using a Sanyo flip phone, it was still loaded with an NFL app, several Sprint apps, and the like. I think that all of these should be optional downloads, as none are imperative to the use of your phone... and if there are any NECESSARY changes, the OS manufacturer should implement them on behalf of the carrier. Worst case scenario, the bloatware should AT LEAST be removeable!!
74. Aeires (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:52 7 2
Some good points, but you forgot the top one. My biggest complaint with that crowd is how often and how quickly they look down their noses at everyone not using an Apple device. I don't remember there being as much OS hatred until Apple made the iPhone, then some people seemed to treat others as second class citizens. That arrogance is BS and gets old really fast.
78. Sniggly posted on 19 Jul 2012, 13:55 4 2
Agreed. The concept of Android as a second class OS pisses me off too.
90. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 14:36 3 2
For many people, Android is a second class OS simply because they value something other than Android more highly. You can't deny people their opinions and force on them what you believe.
91. Sniggly posted on 19 Jul 2012, 14:54 3 2
Who said I want to force anyone on anything?
I think maybe there's some projection going on here, dude.
104. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 19 Jul 2012, 16:20 1 0
Well you said the concept of Android being a second class OS pisses you off... you're basically saying that people who think Android is second to another OS piss you off, i.e., people whose opinion is different to yours!
107. Sniggly posted on 19 Jul 2012, 16:34 2 1
No, no, no no no.
I'm fine with people like you who, after examining their options, determine that a particular OS or product works best for them.
What pisses me off are the people who view Android as a second class OS in the same way someone would look down on a Buick because it's not a Mercedes. These people don't form their opinions based on the merits of the systems involved, but on the social status they perceive the product as communicating.
This falls in line with that ridiculous blog post on The Street where the author essentially accused Android users of being knuckle dragging unsophisticates who don't know what they're doing with their phones.
And if Android were to suddenly be perceived as the "upper class" OS, I'd have a problem with that too.
117. mrochester (unregistered) posted on 20 Jul 2012, 01:33 1 0
Fair enough. But sadly that perception of someone or something being 'below' someone or something else is prevelent on all platforms. You get many Android users in these comments alone looking down on iPhone users as 'iSheep' or 'blind' which is just as biggoted and childish as the example you've given above. And that behaviour is not just confined to the comments section on here alone.