Verizon officially welcomes tiered data plans
1. sniperace posted on 07 Jul 2011, 06:21 10 2
Welcome to Sprint! How can i hepl you? .... "Yes umlimited data plans do still exist." "Your pockets are safe here!"
3. XavierMathews posted on 07 Jul 2011, 06:24 2 5
EXACTLY!! If only they had good Costumer Service I would be all on board.
34. jogutier posted on 07 Jul 2011, 11:03 3 2
Don't forget about the most important. If only they had any reception. :( Wimax LMFAO!
I kind of like this idea. Being that I can get my kid a Droid and only pay $10 additional a month vs. the $30 is cool. He can always use wifi free at home and at his school. NIICE!
39. Smooth posted on 07 Jul 2011, 11:42 3 0
Well you won't like that the $10/month plan is only for feature phones which excludes any android phone. A minimum of 2GB is required on all smartphones. It's listed in the brochures we recieved a few days ago. Don't know why Phone Arena doesn't mention it.
47. tragichero posted on 07 Jul 2011, 14:42 3 2
i work for verizon and if you have ever seen any of my posts on this website you would know that i have consistently defended verizon and stuck up for them and have always promoted them over all other networks......those days are over. im going to apply to work at sprint tomorrow. it is totally ridiculous what this company has done. first they take away 1 year contracts. then they take away annual upgrades and the new every2 program that allows additional benefits on your upgrade if you the primary. then they say "dont worry, all this will allow us to offer better incentives in the future". now they take away unlimited data. they dont even try to make a more affordible plan they just jack up the prices. where are the incentives? phones are more expensive than other networks too! lte is going to be great but as for now there is really nothing super about it. the only carrier out there is sprint in my book from this point forward. i have no idea how long they will last after the att/tmobile merger goes through and verizon eventually buys them off and we are spun into a wireless world of corporate greed bleeding the people dry but for now.... sprint is the only choice if they have coverage in your area. their network is nearly as bad as verizon trolls would like to make you believe. sure lte is probably better than wimax.... but how much of a difference are we talking about here when the phones are better on sprint anyway.... for less money. maybe when the bionic comes out verizon will have the best phone but thats yet to be seen . i dont know man.... its truely awful whats happening in this country. the rich fat head corporate tools are making all the money while soaking the middle class and then republicans are talking about taking away workers rights and defunding social programs and trying to put an end to medicare without taxing these uber wealthy buttholes a penny more...... its sick. i quit.
50. lolwut (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 15:05 4 3
yeah youre lying, if you worked for verizon wireless directly(im guessing you work sales for an indirect retailer who doesnt actually read any reasoning behind any changes for the company)you would know the 1 year plans were becoming a rare choice for customers and would cause confusion in store and online as far as 1 and 2 year pricing. you would also know the reasoning behind the data changes. 95% of customers use less than 2gb per month. the 5% left included people with tethered and rooted phones using it as their home internet, which isnt what its for. the only thing this impacts is new customers and 95% of them wont even be impacted. stop blowing s**t out of proportion. you get to keep your current unlimited plan even if you upgrade to a new phone.
54. Common_sense (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 15:34 3 1
You are very brainwashed by the corporate world. Vzw trainings always turn all their negatives into positives. As commissioned sale reps you have no choice but to buy into their lies. From a customer's point of view, not a sales rep, changing the return period to 14 days hurts not helps the customer. It helps vzw and sales reps. Less charge backs. Eliminating the NE2 (A credit that used to be $100 towards the purchase of a new phone for plans 39.99 or higher over time became $50, $30, ZERO) How does that benefit the customer at all? Now eliminating anual upgrades (upgrades for people who sign a 2yr contract but want to upgrade after one year, this used to be available for anybody at any price point, overtime it became only available for customers on 59.99 plans or higher) This hurts both the consumer and the sale reps!! Less upgrade commission for sale reps and having to buy phones at full retail for customers who break their phones after one year. In many cases phones simply malfunction after a year. These customers now have no choice. How can you defend vzw's latest policies aimed at nothing but increasing their profits by taking away from customers' priveleages? It's not one thing alone, it's a combination of everything. Over the last year, no more NE2(new every two) no more anual upgrades, return/exchange policy lowered to 14 days. No more 1 year contracts. Data required on most phones. Even feature phones in many cases. No more don't pay anything if you port out of vzw withing your return/exchange period if you were unsatisfied with the service. Even if you are a sales rep for vzw, you can not support such company that has done all of that over the span of a year or so. It's ridiculous they are still number one even though Sprint gave them a run for their money on the latest cosumer top choice. Maybe 2012 will be the year Spring is number 1?
55. tragichero posted on 07 Jul 2011, 16:21 4 1
common_sense- couldnt agree more with most of what you said.... and you also brought up the return policy... good for you... thats another bs move by verizon i forgot to mention
lolwut- your right about me working for indirect but your wrong about me lying about anything and wrong about indirect not reading in to reasoning. we got that same bullsh*t talking point email as you did regarding 95% of customers using less than 2gb. regardless it remains to be a bullsh*t move by verizon to make more money on the behalf of the consumer. you sound like a corporate drone.
56. tragichero posted on 07 Jul 2011, 16:26 3 1
lolwut- you know deep inside the point of all this is to make money. now use that knowledge to logically examine what is going on and how this is only good for those sitting on the top floor of the corporate ladder and bad for the majority. the people be damned
57. lolwut (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 17:59 2 4
so all companies should constantly make changes that cost the company and help the customer? where do you draw the line? where youre bleeding out like sprint? Verizon/ATT/Any other business is just that, a business. If it was a charity they wouldn't have the money to invest in their networks, buy rights to phones, etc. There's a balance. I don't mind paying for what I get because I understand the changes are not always for a profit increase. They have costs too. If you don't like it go ahead and go to another carrier then. Enjoy your capped speeds, poor phone selection and faux G
70. tragichero posted on 12 Jul 2011, 16:26 1 0
you make no sense.... go to another company with capped speeds and poor phone selection you say.... thats what we are talking about. verizon is capping its data and speeds and no longer has the best phones...duh. also you must understand that all changes a business does are to increase profits.... ALL. thats there guiding principles... to make money. we have given you over four examples of verizon making changes with the charade that its to offer other incentives. now we have capped data. where are the incentives? there has not been one new incentive since these changes have taken place and verizon said there would be some. you cant say one new incentive because there are none.
71. tragichero posted on 12 Jul 2011, 18:20 1 0
so unless capped data is the incentive lol you cant claim that there have been any. verizon sure would love to make you believe capped data is an incentive.... just call customer service... there new greeting is "thanks for choosing verizon, we have new great data plans!" ..... if you cant comprehend that companys do everything to make money then you cant comprehend when they do something that really screws its customer base.
58. really (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 19:11 0 1
It's called progress......Name another company that was offering all these programs for customers? Things change and you either just move with it or make changes.
60. beatlesfan posted on 07 Jul 2011, 19:40 0 1
68. duke594 posted on 08 Jul 2011, 12:32 0 2
Good luck at Sprint. I worked there for 8 months. It was the worst 8 months of my life. I worked for Verizon for 5 years! It is a 100 times better company not only to work for but to be a customer of.
25. spanky posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:44 1 0
haha @ sniperace. its great being able to say that every day haha
45. redleg6 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 13:46 3 1
But it must suck saying "our network is horrible, but we have good plans"
2. XavierMathews posted on 07 Jul 2011, 06:23 1 3
This is some Bull s**ttt these carriers are Redic. Seriously, but then again I will be with T-Mobile when I pick up My Sensation in two weeks so this does not fade me at all. Still sucks tho.
48. tragichero posted on 07 Jul 2011, 14:54 4 0
just wait to att takes t-mobile and then tell me how your not affected. everyone with a cell phone is going to get f*cked
4. JeffdaBeat posted on 07 Jul 2011, 06:26 1 0
Don't be so quick to think Sprint won't join the bandwagon at a later date. Remember when they were the last company to have unlimited data on their aircards? It would, however, benefit them to keep the unlimited plan for unhappy AT&T and Verizon customers...but ultimately, as people start surfing the web more and more each year using cellular networks, it will become more and more expensive for Sprint to maintain that all you can eat way of life...
6. SPRINT FTW (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 06:53 1 1
If Sprint did decide to make that move in capping their Data, that would be a bad business move on their part. Customers are already paying an Additional $10 premium data feature. Contrary to what most people believe, its NOT for 4G or 4G devices only, its for ANY smartphone activated from now on. At the same time, we all know WiMAX isnt that great, which is why im excited theyre working on their LTE network w/ Lightsquared....now we just need to get our hands on some high-end smartphones....
5. jenn05 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 06:51 4 1
Not to mention Sprint's crappy coverage.....I can only get Verizon, AT&T and Alltel where I live. No T-Mobile, No Sprint, and AT&T is not really even that good. Oh Sprint how I wish your coverage were better! :p
52. LOL (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 15:19 2 0
Your coverage would be much better if Sprint would charge more, because then they can invest more in their towers. You will never get cheap prices and good coverage and I wish people could understand this instd of complaining all the time.
Look at the bussiness end people. The company that invest all their money into towers and has cheap plans won't be a company that will still be around.
7. lfred150 (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 07:07 0 0
My wife has been waiting to use my old Blackberry Pearl on Verizon..she will only use limited data and I am getting conflicting reports on the 75MB plan..will this work now with Blackberry units or do you still have to get the $30 plan. Can't seem to get the right answer before I go to the store. Leo
32. zuno gyakusatsu posted on 07 Jul 2011, 10:17 0 0
no, 75mb plan is for non -smartphones only.
35. lfred150 (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 11:16 0 0
Thanks for all of your help..that is really bad as she doesn't use data and those other phones are just junk. Leo
38. Tom (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 11:37 0 0
Or you could just get BB Pearl flashed to Cricket or Metro PCS & pay as go for cheap.
8. ARorlando (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 07:33 0 0
@lfred... The Blackberry is considered a smartphone, and therefore MUST have a minimum $30 data plan.
17. phonefan4 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:29 0 2
No a $30 plan is no longer required, they did away with that a while ago, there was a $15 plan also available that was offered to my wifes droid.
30. EFchris91 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 10:12 1 0
The $15 150mb plan was discontinued months ago.
9. Robert235 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 08:06 0 0
I don't this will affect 3g user as much,since I had a data plan as of 2009 i never past 1gb usage mark,I find that strange considering google maps running in the background and my email app.
12. corps1089 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 08:23 0 0
What OS? What other apps do you have on the phone?
My Evo 4G with Android is constantly breathing data back and forth in the background [far exceeding the background data for my Touch Pro 2 with WinMo 6.5], but I stream all kinds of media with the TP2 putting it past the Evo [regularly up to 2GB/Month].
10. KJ (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 08:13 1 0
Once again for those so quick to jump ship. If you already have unlimited data plan, this will not change anything for you. You are grandfathered in when you renew your contract. These prices are for "Brand New Customers"..another item to keep in mind, once Sprint get their iPhone they will switch over to tiered prices as well.
13. corps1089 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 08:26 4 1
"once Sprint get their iPhone they will switch over to tiered prices as well"
Possible, I doubt it since I don't think Sprint will sell a huge amount of iPhones. If it would be true, then keep the damn iPhone away from my network!
11. familyplan (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 08:19 0 0
With 5 phones on my contract I was wondering if we can share data like we share minutes. Does anyone know if we can?
27. dandirk (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 10:02 0 0
The rumor is that this was supposedly one of the benefits of tiered pricing. I also heard they will expand pricing to family plans supposedly in wave 2.
But with the tether charge and no mention of family plans, seems at least for now its a cash grab for high data usage. Probably to reduce data usage so they don't turn out to be AT&T with network issues due to the influx of iphones.
14. diana44 (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 08:29 1 2
I have at&t and I remember when at&t first took out tiered data plans I was pissed off, all my friends on Verizon were laughing at me they were all like haha loser I have unlimited data on Verizon u don't! Well ,well who's laughing now? Karma is a bitch. now look at u people on Verizon ur plans are even more ridiculous than at&ts..
19. KJ (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:34 3 2
diana44, the difference is AT&T didn't grandfathered their current customers to stay on their unlimited plan and Verizon is. So we're still laughing.
29. dhageorge (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 10:05 1 1
umm......just so you know at&t is allowing their grandfathered customer's with unlimited data to keep their unlimited data plans. I have upgraded three of my five phones since they made the change and guess what i am still on my unlimited data plans. So please in the future if you are going to comment on things know what you are talking about. It will help out with making you not look like an idiot fa boy : )
31. KJ (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 10:13 3 1
dhageorge, you are correct I should have been fully informed. Thank you and and diana44 I do apologize. The information I received was from a friend who lost his unlimited plan while on AT&T. I am big enough to admit I was wrong.
15. HTC_Fan23 (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 08:37 1 0
I am glad that I am grandfathered in to the unlimited plan. I currently own a HTC Thunderbolt and so far this month I have used about 13 GB if data this month. All I can day is Verizon you just made a big mistake. Pushing all their new customers to Sprint and T Mobile!!
33. beatlesfan posted on 07 Jul 2011, 10:52 1 0
13 gb so far this month? No wonder Verizon made the move to tiered data.
41. HTC_Fan23 (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 12:25 0 0
Of course this month but I've been using my hotspot. I usually am around 6GB. My plan cycle is from 15 to the 15. So its almost over but none of these data plans would work for me.
61. beatlesfan posted on 07 Jul 2011, 20:05 0 0
My heaviest month (the first month I got the tbolt) I used 4 gb and I was on it a LOT. Do you ever set your phone down? Or are you one of those who streams Netflix while simultaneously downloading torrents and playing Call of Duty online all from your phones data connection?
16. phonefan4 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:26 0 0
If I was not already grandfathered into this unlimited plan with verizon, I would go to at&t because the plans there are a cheaper rate.
18. lhfan (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:29 2 0
Yes, it sucks that Verizon switched to tier data, however, it was bound to happen sometime. Although they start their plan at 2GB for $30 which is $5 more than AT&T it makes sense. Verizon has 5X more 3G coverage then AT&T, 4G phones are 2X faster than AT&T, and by the end of this year it will have almost 30X the 4GLte coverage of AT&T. Verizon has never been seen as the cheap company. That's why we have T-Mobile and Sprint correct?
20. WirelessCon posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:41 1 1
Sprint's coverage is terrible. Verizon has the most coverage in the U.S. so tiered data will be a goldmine for them.
Tiered data pricing should not exist. Capping should not exist.
Open internet for all.
21. dandirk (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:41 0 0
What I love is the prices vs the overage charges...
OK lets look at it... 1GB over your plan is $10...
75MB for $10 = $137 per GB
2GB for $30 = $15 per GB
5GB for $50 = $10 per GB
10GB for $80 = $80
ok so if I have the 75MB plan here are the costs
1GB(actually 1GB+75MB) =$20
2GB=$30 - hmmm same cost as the 2GB plan...
4GB=$50 - This is the only point where it is worth buying another plan
so essentially unless you are constantly over 5GB of usage, you may as well just get the 75MB or 2GB and just pay the per GB costs, cause you will save money that way.
22. likeag6 (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:42 0 0
@kj wtf are u on I have unlimited data on my infuse 4G . Because att grandfathered my old unlimited plan I had Just letting u kno...I guess it depends on the person u go to when I bought my phone the gurl at the att store didn't want to but I ended up convincing her. ..also the only reason I'm sticking with att is because it works on Europe. My friends droid charge doesn't ..
23. CB2047 (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:43 0 0
So...If I'm reading this article right, I should by the $10 plan for 75 MB, then just go over by 2 GB and then I can get 2 GB plus 75 MB for the same $30 as the 2 GB plan. Am I right?
51. tragichero posted on 07 Jul 2011, 15:17 1 0
not on a smartphone. the $30 plan is lowest you can go for smartphones. PA didnt mention that
24. CB2047 (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:44 0 0
ahhh dandirk beat me to the punch
26. dandirk (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 09:46 0 0
I still think the worst part of this tiered business is the mobile hotspot charge.
They should recommend more data, say as the customer adds tether as a feature they have to call/login to enable.
But forcing a charge that you may not actual use sucks. Especially since the cost is the same as the going over fee of $10 per GB. Especially since tether is not using anymore bandwidth then a phone (limited to 3/4G right!!!!) and now your data is metered so it's not like you are abusing "unlimited" (like you could even over-use unlimited to begin with).
28. joe (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 10:05 2 0
can not use the 75mb on a smartphone phonearena.
36. fairly_mismatched (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 11:16 0 0
"...welcomes tiered data..."? It's more like ushers.
37. Yuck! (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 11:21 0 0
I ordered a Thunderbolt on July 4th to get grandfathered in.
I was kind of regretting that however as the Bionic is coming out soon.
With that being said though ... for fun I priced things now if I were to try to sign up today with a Thunderbolt simulating what a Bionic sign up might look like. In short ... YUCK YUCK YUCK.
Based on the new plan pricing ... I am SOOOO happy I got the Thunderbolt!
40. azrael162 posted on 07 Jul 2011, 12:18 1 0
I have mixed feeling about this change. As an Android user (HTC Droid Incredible 2 ADR6350), I have no problem staying under 2GB. I use my phone constantly for web browsing, streaming music, downloading apps and watching the occasional YouTube video, and always end up with around 1GB of data used. Verizon's 3G EvDO (Evolution Data Optimized) network allows for heavily compressed data, which means you can do more with a smaller data usage. This really shows when comparing similar data usage with other carriers (Primarily AT&T and T-Mobile), as other networks will reflect a higher gross usage amount for doing the same thing. I have my unlimited data, and it does afford me a degree of comfort, but I know I could easily stay under 2GB every month if I had to. This is especially true with the ready access most people have to Wi-Fi.
42. WEB0009 (unregistered) posted on 07 Jul 2011, 12:41 0 1
THE UNLIMITED PLAN FOR SPRINT ISN'T TRULY "UNLIMITED" . AFTER USING 2G OF DATA, SPRINT THROTTLES DOWN YOUR SPEEDS TO THAT LESS THAN 1X. THOSE WHO FEEL SPRINT IS TRULY "UNLIMITED", SHOULD DO THEIR HOMEWORK.