T-Mobile’s UN-carrier 5.0 – simplified rate set-up, prices will include taxes
Phone bills in the United States have loads of taxes and fees that get added to the bottom line. Moreover, these taxes can vary by city, and fees vary by state, on top of whatever the FCC plugs into the mix as well.
It is not uncommon to see fees and taxes add as much as 15% to a bill. There is not any single major culprit either, the fees literally assault you with pennies. In California for example, there are no fewer than 10 surcharges and “other fees” in some parts of the state. Line items such as, “City Utility Users Tax” (38 cents), “Relay Service Device Fund” (2 cents), “State 911 Tax” (8 cents), and more, all add up, especially if you have more than one line, since these are assessed at a per-line level. Plus, because some are flat fees, and others are a percentage based tax, they are not uniform across the board.
These fees have legitimate uses (most of them anyway), and have been a part of the telecom billing landscape since even before the days of MaBell and McCaw Cellular. All that appears to be on the way for another change.
A tip we just received indicates that T-Mobile will upset the market once again with the announcement of UN-carrier 5.0. Team Magenta’s post-paid customers will see their rate plans priced to be inclusive of all taxes and regulatory fees. That means, the plan pricing that T-Mobile offers will be all-in. Clean and simple.
This pricing takes a page from rate structures that are typically reserved for the pre-paid market. MetroPCS branded rates are structured the same way. This will certainly be a hit with consumers and will make balancing the check-book all the easier, and it stands to save customers even more money. This may also have appeal to those that were pensive about setting up service with T-Mobile but not being granted an employer-based discount (current customers grandfathered).
As for the prices of the rates themselves, there is no indication those will change since it would be counter to the “Simple Choice” message T-Mobile has been pushing with its plans. This will be a significant development in the face of traditional telecom billing for customers.
We will bring you further details about this announcement and any other news that may be made at T-Mobile’s Un-carrier event this coming Wednesday from Seattle.
Thanks for the tip!
1. sun0066 (Posts: 89; Member since: 12 Feb 2011)
Love everything about t mobile , phones, plans , etc .it is a company pro consumer 100% thanks t mobile !!!!!
When other company try to control plans etc you instead serve everything unlimited , love t mobile !!! Long live to t mobile
And pls keep away of sprint !
3. Topcat488 (Posts: 1180; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)
T-Mobile is late at doing this, I had the $50.00 simple choice plan, after TAX it was almost $54.00... I switched to "Cricket Wireless", and get a half GB more LTE High Speed for the same $50.00 TAX included, and with auto-pay, you get another $5.00 off the price... $45.00, 2 1/2 GB 4G LTE Speed, unlimited talk, text, and data, TAX included... Beat that T-Mobile!... Oh Yeah, international sms to 35 countries FREE.
10. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I believe Straight Talk one ups that with 3GB 4G LTE, unlimited voice and messages for 45.00 a month...
20. givemetacos (Posts: 16; Member since: 12 May 2014)
T-mobile was doing this on their prepaid no credit check plans, not their postpaid plans though.
28. Dr.Phil (Posts: 956; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Lately I have considered both T-Mobile and Cricket, and I am still in the decision making process. The way I see it is Cricket is slightly cheaper and offers better coverage in rural areas, but T-Mobile offers faster LTE speeds (take note that it says in fine print for Cricket that the LTE speed is throttled at 8 Mbps, which isn't bad but it's worth noting).
33. Salazzi (Posts: 322; Member since: 17 Feb 2014)
except you're restricted to either 4 or 8Mbps..
34. David789 (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Jun 2014)
But You must agree that T-Mobile is pro-consumer-friendly company.... Although you may still find more cheaper plan with any other MVNO but T-Mobile has some difference.............. telecomvibe[dot]com
36. UMAFan (Posts: 14; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Well Tmobile gives you free international sms to nearly EVERY country. They are giving free data and sms when you ROAM internationally. Tmobile has WiFi calling. Also Cricket throttles you to HSPA+ speeds on an LTE connection so you are essentially a second class customer to at&ts prime customers. Also two lines on Tmobile is $40 per line. 3 lines are $30. 4 are $25 per line.
43. Dr.Phil (Posts: 956; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Cricket does family pricing too and I think when I compared 5 lines they came out to the same price of $110 for both T-Mobile and Cricket.
45. corporateJP (Posts: 2158; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Yeah, Aio/New Cricket was there first with all-inclusive.
Straight Talk has taxes and fees on top of that $45, plus they still suspend people for streaming video.
15. bigdawg23 (Posts: 404; Member since: 25 May 2011)
You must not leave major cities. My travels through South Dakota would have been a real treat stick on 2G. How is poor coverage pro consumer? Come get a TMo phone and just try using it outside big cities.
17. rdaex (Posts: 106; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
Theyve rolled out LTE faster than any other carrier in the US... man, what does a company have to do to get a freakin break?! Consumer friendly changes over and over again, best plans of any of the major carriers, no contracts, BYOD, free international text and roaming, but they dont have coverage in nowheresville, South Dakota... they can go to hell!
37. mike2959 (Posts: 324; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
Look. TMO's coverage map has changed very little in 3 years. There are 3rd party coverage maps that show this. Heck there own maps show this. I travel the country and trust me this is true. Inner city, urban is usually not a issue, but once outside into medium sized suburban and rural forget about it. How many towers you all seeing going up?
42. Augustine (Posts: 845; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
Indeed, if you travel all over the country, then T-Mobile I'd not for you. If course, neither is Sprint and you're better off with AT&T, as Verizon is just a CDMA plantation.
39. tuminatr (Posts: 715; Member since: 23 Feb 2009)
LOL nice, they actually have crappy coverage in nowhereville North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and the Upper peninsula of Michigan. Also here in minnesota I am suprised how bad the ping rates are I consistantly get 200+ ms on LTE with tmobile
46. corporateJP (Posts: 2158; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
T-Mobile only works to it's fullest extent in MPLS and St. Cloud in MN, only in Fargo in ND. It's 2G everywhere else in those states.
2. robert26101 (Posts: 93; Member since: 21 Mar 2014)
The only thing I hate about T-Mobile is their service sucks outside of big cities. That's the only reason I would never switch to them.
11. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Ok, how much population does a city need to be big? I live on the outskirts of a 35k city, and I do fine with my signal...
18. robert26101 (Posts: 93; Member since: 21 Mar 2014)
I'm talking LTE service. I live in south east Ohio and T-Mobiles LTE service is non existence. But AT&T and Verizon have it. That's why I've stayed with AT&T for so long. They have great coverage and LTE.
25. Planterz (Posts: 1357; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
If you check out the pcmag LTE test, T-Mobile acknowledges there's a problem in Ohio, and they're working on it.
30. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
I complained to them there speeds were to slow in my neighborhood and like 3 weeks later the area around me got upgraded from 2G to 30mbps LTE.
38. rdaex (Posts: 106; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)
If you live in SE ohio, you dont live in a big (or even medium) city. Athens is the biggest choice that way, and its abour 25000 people. The 200th largest city in the US is Waco TX, at 125k population.
I get it, if the company doesnt have coverage there, thats fine, but people try to make it out to be more nefarious than it is. Verizon and ATT have had ~25 years to build out coverage (and much of their growth has been merger, not build out), so of COURSE their network is large and in charge. Tmobile has been in the game what... 8 years as they currently stand (not including Aerial/VoiceStream days).
47. corporateJP (Posts: 2158; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
T-Mobile through all it's incarnations has been around just as long as the other three in their incarnations.
DK just chose not to throw around money until recently.
4. TreyTreyTaylor (Posts: 448; Member since: 21 Dec 2010)
I love T-Mobile. Each carrier has pros and cons but T-Mobile is making wonderful strides these days.
Verizon- Amazing coverage and LTE but the most expensive and no unlimited
At&t- Same exact situation as Big Red, but for personal reasons, I despise them lol
Sprint- Good prices and decent coverage. Unlimited but unless you have consistent LTE, wimax and 3g are pathetic. Seriously it's terrible(30+ seconds for a Google search)
T-Mobile- Good coverage in city's but little to no signal in other places, blazing fast lte and great HSPA+ to back it up, good prices, and UNLIMITED that's to die for. It's literally the only carrier I have some type of hope for.
12. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Verizon, AT&T, T Mobile are all about equal in my area, with Sprint sucking in coverage...
26. PapaSmurf (Posts: 9502; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Chicago. T-Mobile actually outperforms AT&T most of the time here.
41. OldNorseBruin (Posts: 212; Member since: 12 Mar 2013)
I've heard that EVEN in as big a city as Chicago, the SPRINT coverage is really bad; I don't DOUBT that because here in San Francisco, SPRINT is also terrible; T-MOBILE has excellent coverage here though...
13. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
They do not have unlimited 4G data, but their 2G is pretty decent in my area...
32. Salazzi (Posts: 322; Member since: 17 Feb 2014)
They do have unlimited data. You just have to be willing to pay the extra $30 (used to be $20) for it.
49. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
yup, my bad - for some reason I did not see that - it gets expensive with the highest plan and a monthly equipment charge - that is a pain point - lol
50. Salazzi (Posts: 322; Member since: 17 Feb 2014)
not quite. As a solo line, sure.. it competes with Verizon and ATT pricing but you get unlimited everything, among other awesome perks. But if you have several lines, your costs decrease drastically. 5 lines on unlimited everything will fetch $52/month each. Though if you're grandfathered into the old pricing it would be $42/month per line. Plus if you're grandfathered into a corp discount, that drops it down to $33-36/month each. So it is actually quite a steal if you have more than one line connected.
On Verizon More Everything plan, without edge (subsidized phone, 2 year contract), for 1 line with 2GB data you're paying $90/month (but if you split the upfront $250 you pay for the phone over 2 years, technically you're paying $10 more per month, so $100). If you're on edge it goes down to $80/month, but now you gotta pay monthly for the device so around $105-110/month for that one line. For that same cost $80+device, you get more from T-Mobile.. unlimited unthrottled data, free international roaming, international stateside texting, free music streaming, etc.
5. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5659; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
give me an excuse to switch Verizon.
GIVE. ME. A REASON.
6. promise7 (Posts: 507; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
Wow, I am currently on the fence about leaving Verizon for T-Mobile. This just put the nail in the coffin for them, I'm definitely switching now. T-Mobile is so pro consumer it's amazing, and unheard of. I hope they have Verizon and AT&T shaking in their boots.
16. bigdawg23 (Posts: 404; Member since: 25 May 2011)
They are not shaking in their boots, VZW and ATT have coverage and T-Mo doesn't, My AT&T plan is cheaper than T-Mobile.
21. givemetacos (Posts: 16; Member since: 12 May 2014)
Your plan might be cheaper doesn't mean everyone elses is.
Plans will vary from carrier to carrier based on usage. For example I get 5 smart phones with one truly unlimited data, and four with 1 GB high speed then throttled on T-mobile with a 10% discount for the same price I was getting on AT&T for 2 GB 3 smartphones with a 15% discount.
27. Augustine (Posts: 845; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
Because covering 99% of the area where 99%of the customers are 1% of the time is 100% important, right?
7. PryvateiDz (Posts: 93; Member since: 31 Jul 2011)
If they do this, I may switch back because that's most of the reason I left, there plans weren't as inexpensive/affordable as I would've liked them to be.
8. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Does T-Mobile still offer organizational/corporate discounts? That might tip the balance towards T-Mobile in terms of "best single line plan for the money". But as it is now, they are still more expensive than ATT's single line plans as ATT offers discounts -- and ATT has a much larger network.
22. givemetacos (Posts: 16; Member since: 12 May 2014)
Only to government.
They have a 100 Minute 5 GB unlimited text message prepaid plan for $30 though. Use google voice or whatever for free calls to supplement the lack of minutes.
29. Augustine (Posts: 845; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)
Google Voice used plan minutes. I've been using Vonage for free calls to phone numbers in the US.
31. Salazzi (Posts: 322; Member since: 17 Feb 2014)
Perfect for folks like me who are grandfathered in. 5 lines on unlimited data each will be $36.96 after this move. Right now it's that plus tax per line, so here's to hoping this is the move! *crosses fingers*
9. maherk (Posts: 1646; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Me and my wife switched to t-mobile 8 months ago, I live in Irving, Dallas. At first I had a problem with the LTE service, it wasn't the best, especially when I go to Arlington, I called them regarding this matter and they assured me they are working on improving it so I decided to give them a chance. It's been 6 months since then and I am very pleased with everything, their service is top notch, their phones are always updated and they always offer the latest flagships, and most importantly their coverage is getting better and better.
19. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
Their slow speeds outside cities will he fixed almost completely by mid 2015, they probably won't be offering true unlimited if they merge with sprint so if you want it now is the time to buy.
23. joey18 (Posts: 565; Member since: 20 Jul 2010)
is too late why charge taxes my bill is 134 plus taxes 146 more taxes then verizon charge me if this true i will change to cricket 50 less 5 box same amount of data
35. sweets55 (Posts: 1; Member since: 15 Jun 2014)
I have 4 lines with T-Mobile and will be making up mind if staying or leaving at the end of month. I was really happy with T-Mobile until they messed up the discounts not once but twice. Also I don't care for the Sprint merger if it goes through.
I'm Columbus, Ohio and T-Mobile service is good. When I go golfing in Marysville I don't get service though. I guess a good thing. lol
40. OldNorseBruin (Posts: 212; Member since: 12 Mar 2013)
Before, this type of "straight forward" ( NO + TAX) was only available on a lot of PREPAIDS...T-MOBILE is once again going to be upsetting the industry! Ha, ha: Midget SONofB, go home...Leave T-MOBILE alone; try making a 3G network FUNCTIONAL on SPRINT!
44. diyi75 (Posts: 57; Member since: 30 Oct 2013)
Att/ Verizon: tier 1 carriers, T-Mobile: tier 1.5. Sprint: crap!