Samsung VP hints that the Samsung Galaxy S IV will be plastic
Why is there no uni-body aluminum body for the flagship Android device? According to Lee, it has to do with Samsung being practical. In pumping out the giddlywoowoozillion devices a year that Samsung does, there is no time for the longer process required with some other materials to make sure that there are no defective units being sent out.
LG Optimus G, but did so on the sequel LG Optimus G Pro after listening to its customers. And while the plastic cover feels light and seems to bend to the point of snapping in two, Samsung says its back cover is more durable than the back of other smartphone manufacturers because of the flexibility provided by the plastic which better absorbs physical impact.
The big question is whether Samsung's decision to stick to plastic at a time when HTC went with an aluminum construction with the HTC One, and Nokia offers polycarbonate (along with one rumored aluminum model itself) will have any affect on sales of the Samsung Galaxy S IV.
1. jcpwn2004 (Posts: 314; Member since: 18 Jan 2012)
It's funny how people make such a big deal about this. Maybe there's a reason why tech bloggers aren't in charge of building phones. I don't give a crap what my phone is made out of since it will be covered in a case immediately so I'd prefer that it's lightweight and durable.
All I care about is the screen, software, user experience, camera and battery life. I'm sure many people feel the same way. Why would I want a phone made of glass that shatters when dropped from 3 feet?
6. wp8forever (unregistered)
Lol another crap from Samsung , I can't believe this , they know everyone wants aluminum or a good build quality ,if it is plastic I hope they don't sell s**t and ppl get htc one or Sony z , samcrap
8. _Bone_ (Posts: 2061; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
By everybody of course you mean the minority as Samsung sold more plastic devices last year than all non-plastic Android rivals combined.
BTW the title is not entirely accurate as the SIV will be plastic on the back, metal on the side and Gorilla Glass on the front.
11. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4598; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
This information is not completely confirmed so I don't see a reasons for a stigmatized speeches. Majority of other phones also has plastic body.
21. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2864; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
Tell that to millions of happy SGS3 and Note 2 owners.
Get a phone case if you aren't happy with the "feel" of the device.
Also, please tell me how easy it is for devices like the iPhone, which supposively is made of the best premium, high materials and yet gets shipped with dents and scratches? Which in just a matter of a couple months also suffer from these issues?
In the end, it doesn't matter, because you'll be buying a phone case to protect or cover the scratches and dents of your phone anyway.
I will take removable battery and a micro sd card slot any day over it.
52. papss (Posts: 3387; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Agreed it doesn't need to be aluminum to be premium.. But does need better fit and finish... And better paint
23. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Yes they want good build quality
"In pumping out the giddlywoowoozillion devices a year that Samsung does, there is no time for the longer process required with some other materials to make sure that there are no defective units being sent out."
Which means that Samsung makes sure that their millions of devices do not ship defective. Like Nokia Lumia 920 creaking, dust in the camera, buttons that cave in etc, or HTC's rattling volume rockers, finishing marks, loose screens, camera modules that are not cut properly etc.
I don't know about you, but I rather have the perfect clearance and consistency of a great plastic build over builds that are riddled with issues.
49. papss (Posts: 3387; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
You lost me with the last part... Great plastic lol now you are being silly
85. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Nothing silly about it, I gave examples. Plastic is easier to cut precisely so the clearance is perfect.
98. shy2papa (Posts: 195; Member since: 23 Jan 2010)
But for an high end phone is should at least have a quality build so you would feel you are getting your moneys worth, this is why a lot of people want Nokia in the Android ecosystem Nokia has been building aluminum phones for years and has the know how to build a quality phone even Apple will envy. #just saying
62. heyhi (Posts: 118; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
man, i dont know how much the xperia z can resist without a scratch or break when it falls...i saw some videos on you tube that people throw their XZs on their wooden floor and the phone was ok, but i dont know about falling on the street or sidewalk, no videos yet, so, i would use a case...the HTC One, is also beautiful, but, aluminum easily scratches and BEND...i can say that, cause i have a MacBook Pro and anything can scratch it and once it felt from my bed and bend a little bit on the frame of the screen, so I would use a case again...my point is, no matter what material the phone is made of, you always have to use a case to protect your phone and that case hides the beauty and felling of them..For me, doesnt matter if its plastic, the important are the internal and if its thin to fit in my pocket, no matter the size of it.
64. heyhi (Posts: 118; Member since: 19 Feb 2013)
but of course, if the GS IV was made of something different than plastic, i would be happier, but plastic is ok, not premium, but not bad at all.
102. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)
I personally applaud Samsung for sticking to with what works. 213 million smartphones sold in 2012 with 40% market share proves that changes just too change is not needed. Surely the Galaxy S4 and Galaxy Note 3 will share the same design elements just like the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2 did in 2012. The Galaxy Note 2 is the BEST ultimate all purpose productivity device ever made since the inception of android. Clearly Samsung is well on their way to another year of excellent sales probably even 250 million smartphones in 2013. Nothing beats Samsung period.
7. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4598; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"All I care about is the screen, software, user experience, camera and battery life."
I also care about those things, but I also care and about phone's body, build quality and what materials are used because I don't want to keep a phone in additional casing.
"I'm sure many people feel the same way."
At least not I.
17. wp8forever (unregistered)
Exactly well said .
24. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
The problem with the haters is that Samsung actually has everything well covered. Just because they have a problem with the "other things" it doesn't mean Samsung products are cheaply built. In fact, they are extremely well made and it seems the best the detractors can come up with is it doesn't use premium materials!
You actually probably need additional casing for iphone and HTC One more than the GS3. Samsung even designed the flip cover to be basically like you have no casing.
28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 4598; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"Just because they have a problem with the "other things" it doesn't mean Samsung products are cheaply built."
I didn't said that. :)
65. RomeoJDR (Posts: 237; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)
Especially when the only thing that really differentiates top phones is their build
78. Jonathan41 (Posts: 526; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
Enthusiast make a big deal out of everything. Thats just what we do.
82. Ivan6479 (Posts: 243; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)
I totally here what you're saying, but why should comsumers like you and I be forced to buy some stupid case to cover up our beautiful devices, not to mention the extra thickness and weight it adds to a device. I think it's about time these companies start using materials that can actually enjoy life case free at least for a few years until we want to go purchase a new one. ;)
2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5279; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Somehow, I doubt the decision to stick with plastic is going to hurt Sammy's sales of the GS IV.
22. Tsoliades (Posts: 185; Member since: 22 Dec 2012)
I like plastic.
When I lick it, it tastes like sausage.
I like plastic.
51. VZWuser76 (Posts: 985; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
So you'd rather have something that's costly and breakable, rather than something that's cheap and durable? I don't even know how to answer that.
56. BadAssAbe (Posts: 434; Member since: 22 Apr 2011)
Cheap because it bends, dents, scratches, cracks, Shatters, and heavy?
80. Jonathan41 (Posts: 526; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)
Plastic is fine.
The glossy finish is what makes it look and feel like cheap plastic but, really means nothing about the phones build quality.
Samsung should probably go with a soft grip coating like the One X did. Feels and looks lot better and nulls the "cheep" build quality argument that people love to stick to.
P.S. The first gen iPhone was made out of plastic and no one said anything. Knowing you Mxyz, I'm sure you would have never said such a thing if they still were.
111. Stuntman (Posts: 665; Member since: 01 Aug 2011)
After owning my SGS3 for 9 months, I find that the back cover is very durable. You really have to look closely to see any scuff marks due to wear and tear. Compared to the other phones that I have owned (HTC Desire Z made of metal and a rubbery substance, and Nokia N97 made of plastic and some metal), the SGS3 has aged so much better than the other phones that I have owned.
I do not use a case for my SGS3. When I am out, I carry it in a holster. When at home, I just place it on a table.
4. Xperia42 (Posts: 60; Member since: 30 May 2012)
I though the S4 will be Metal or something, not plastic, but I hope its a stronger plastic, than the S3
38. cheetah2k (Posts: 737; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)
Kevlar would be yummmy.. I loved my Moto Razr HD, pity it was dual core and laggy :(
42. k4j98 (Posts: 60; Member since: 12 Jul 2012)
You're Razr HD has the same processor as the S3.
66. RomeoJDR (Posts: 237; Member since: 09 Dec 2011)
That Kevlar is pretty awesome. Nearly impossible to ding or scratch
5. jcarrigan (unregistered)
Plastic is durable but I feel it should have more metal on it and still keep the removable backplate that way I can own multiple batteries and swap it out whenever it dies. Thats pretty much the only complaint i have with my gs3 is that it does feel alil cheap but on the other hand my gs3 runs better than any moto smartphone i had.
9. nikenturd (unregistered)
When you slap in a protective case, does plastic exteriors really matter?
15. papss (Posts: 3387; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
When you are spending what we all spend on phones it should have some premium feel to it don't you think? It's like buying a BMW and only care about how it drives... I have not put a case on my l920 and don't ever plan to
25. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Maybe people do think that is feels premium and only some tech fans and some tech writers think otherwise.
32. papss (Posts: 3387; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
If they think it feels premium they obviously haven't held another flagship phone..
86. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
I have had everything from an iphone to One X to Xperia S to the 8x.
10. timtimity (Posts: 196; Member since: 13 Aug 2012)
All I want is something durable, lightweight and doesn't scratch easily.
12. mafiaprinc3 (Posts: 269; Member since: 07 May 2012)
why do people think plastic isn't durable?????
13. davenycept (Posts: 151; Member since: 03 Jul 2012)
We care about the screen software and user experience. Samsung has figured that out
14. chongbh (Posts: 12; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Not much difference as Samung=Cheap Plastics. You can be light weight and powerful but when it is dropped into the water, it is a piece of junk.
30. 90ninjas (Posts: 86; Member since: 07 Aug 2012)
I dropped my S2 in a pool and used it under water for a bit before I finally just shut it off and dried it properly. AKA, it was not a piece of junk.
104. chongbh (Posts: 12; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)
Why not you try capturing a video under water in swimming pool for a 20 mins video and see if it can capturing anything versus Xperia Z. You will see whether your phone is a junk or not.
16. N-fanboy (Posts: 477; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)
Metal (aluminum): fashionable and sexy yet scratchable and doesnt absorve shock
plastic: some times fells a bit slippery and cheap yet most of the time gives great grip to the hand and and can be multicolored which is definitely a plus
18. papss (Posts: 3387; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
For anyone who thought SS the king of lower grade plastics would change their way of doing business was in serious denial. It's worked well for them thus far so why change.
27. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Who says they use lower grade plastic? When people estimate the cost of a phone, Samsung cost do not score any lower than anyone else really. The plastic could be high grade for all we know. And I haven't seen any hard objective evidence to suggest that Samsung uses a lower grade of plastic. People are just spouting stuff based on weight and the fact that the back cover is removable and could be bent.
34. papss (Posts: 3387; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
It has nothing to do with the back cover.. It's this thing called fit and finish and no flexing when you squeeze it. There clearly are premium plastics/polycarbonate phones on all sides but the S3 isn't it, sorry if you believe otherwise. I have nothing bad to say about the rest of the phone... I feel that their is no reason they they can't step it up just as all other mfg have. They have most of the key features but one I can't get past is the cheapness of the body. I do love that they have a removable battery and expandable storage
39. lkjhg755 (Posts: 85; Member since: 21 Nov 2012)
And yet people want flexible phones in the future. Go figure.
53. papss (Posts: 3387; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)
Right now I want a premium feeling product, in the future I want to be able to make a call with my mind versus my fingers
87. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
You are hopeless. There is no flexing in the GS2 and GS3 and it is a shame that you have to make things up to try and get your point across.
88. Taters (Posts: 2361; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
You do know that the GS3 has a magnesium skeleton right? Technically you shouldn't even be able to flex it. The Xperia Z you can though.
20. -box- (Posts: 3565; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)
I'd rather have polycarbonate and a good, strong, damage resistant body and no need/desire for a case than a likely flimsy plastic body (or cheap flexible metal and glass) that does need a case, which typically makes said device bigger and heavier than the polycarbonate one.