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Goat__Herder
(Posts: 2; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)
You know this is going to piss off alot of people who just purchased razrs via contract.
Its going to get to a point where we going to have to rent to own phones the way they come out new every month it feels like.I think to myself if i would of just purchased a razr i would be angry very lol.
Same for all the people with the galaxy nexus,same things probably going to happen.the world of technology is a forever growing thing,but screwing the people out of enjoying most of it isnt worth it.Before you know it your device is so outdated yet you cant buy one of those new ones unless you buy it outright for 700 dollars,which for a phone is a joke,you can buy a decent laptop of gaming pc for that price.
anyways thats just my opinion,doesnt mean much but had to get a word in.
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rjbp64
(Posts: 28; Member since: 15 Dec 2011)
I totally agree with you. I went through 4 phones in the last two weeks because i could still i had a trial period. I had the Incredible 2, Razr, Rezound and now i have the Galaxy Nexus and all because these phones kept coming out one after another and i wanted to make the rightchoice. Renting phones is an awesome idea!!
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RORYREVOLUTION
(Posts: 3045; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)
How did you pull that off when carriers have a one time exchange policy?
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ledbetterp3
(Posts: 467; Member since: 31 Aug 2011)
by being a lucky rich bastard and buying them all off contract?
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cfprelude
(Posts: 119; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)
Shouldn't piss too many off considering the holiday extended return period. :-) I just hope its a little easier to operate one handed than the razr. I had to return mine for the nexus which is way easier to hold. Would LOVE a 4" at about 7.5mm thick motor razr
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Jimstar
(Posts: 259; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)
They aren't being screwed out of any enjoyment. In this day and age where phones are becoming more powerful than pc's of a few years ago, it is the customer who decides how much enjoyment they can get out of a device if they decided to keep it longer than 15 days and it didn't brick itself or something.
If someone is so shallow and miserable that the same phone coming out with a different screen renders you unable to enjoy what they currently have, then they should buy an Iphone and go kick rocks.
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ardent1
(Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
That's the nature of android devices -- if it wasn't the Razr Maxx, it would have been another phone. High-end android devices have short lives as new, better models come out almost constantly. It's like every 3 months, you want to trade up to a newer phone. If it's not Motorola, it's HTC or LG or a Samsung.
Come back in 3 months and some other phone will displace the Razr Maxx. Personally, I don't get Motorola's marketing program -- the ads for the Bionic were still being aired as the Razr was being introduced.
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Goldeneye
(Posts: 362; Member since: 22 Jan 2011)
Just buy the phone you like the most right now, the best and enjoy it and be happy with it, your only concern should be that your device will be support it with future updates like the RAZR will, technology and innovation can't stop just to not irritate some people, I'll be happy with my Nexus and be excited what wonderful devices will be available when I'm ready for my next upgrade in 2 years.
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BattleBrat
(Posts: 1215; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I just bought a RAZR on contract. With minimal use, I got 5% at 90 HOURS with normal use 40% at 48 HOURS, so no I don't care about the RAZR MAXX, mine is doing just fine, and slim enough I keep my Itouch 4th in the same pocket, and the combo doesn't make my pocket bulky.
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ericon2
(Posts: 2; Member since: 14 Dec 2011)
The same thing happened to me with the bionic. I bought it on contract and look what happens. The razr comes out a month later. I was madder than hell.
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threeline
(Posts: 260; Member since: 11 Sep 2011)
I'm staying away from new Motorola releases for atleast a couple months, because just when you think you have the top of the line Motorola they release an upgrade to the current Motorola model you have with in 2 months(bionic, Droid, now Razr). That's just dirty, because they released the Razr for 299 knowing full well they are about to release the Razr Maxx with better specs, then lower the price of the Razr to make you think your getting a deal when in reality it makes you wonder if the Razr was ever a 299 phone anyway. Kind of slick but we ain't stupid.
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kpfirefighter
(Posts: 160; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
You don't know if the razr maxx will have better specs! All we know is it will have a bigger battery!
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squallz506
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(Posts: 1075; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Personally im happy that android keeps one upping itself. Im not going to upgrade for another 9-12mos, hopefully the razr or gnexus is 300 off contract by then. Well with the constant self betterment of android, at this rate im expecting both phones to be 300 this time next year.
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nastynaps
(Posts: 93; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
They're not one upping themselves, its right out of the apple playbook, hold back technology and then do an incremental update. If they were to one up anyone then they would take the components of the best products out wand make it better. We as the consumers have to say enough is enough. At least this mass is doing something different with a 13mp camera but will it compete with the 4s? Will the display rival the nexus? Are they just giving a bigger battery and not addressing the consumption issue? They could have waited and really one upper themselves but this feels more like just catch up.
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KingKurogiii
(Posts: 5658; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Apple updates once a year and Moto is updating once a week.
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ardent1
(Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
That is why Motorola is in trouble and getting bailed out by the Google acquisition.
If you calculated motorola's ROIC, you could tell it wasn't healthy. No company can survive if it spends a ton on R&D and can't recapture that money by introducing so many new models with poor sales. When the iphone 3GS on one carrier outsells motorola models, it's a problem.
So at the end of the day moto has bragging rights but little or no profits.
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KingKurogiii
(Posts: 5658; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
exactly. you'd think they would've learned from back in the Razr/Q days.
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bolaG
(Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)
I will sell my Razr and buy this one if it has the specs of the one they released in china.
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Phullofphil
(Posts: 801; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)
I don't know about this bigger better so soon. I think it kind of happened but I know people that would still buy the bionic. The other thing is the razr max and the razr normal are a little apples and oranges. You are sacrificing thickness with the max. The max sounds like more of a bionic upgrade than a razr upgrade. I really don't think I would run and get the razr max. It seams the issue is more that people just want the newest phone even if the only differenc is a different color button. I think if they made the razr max with no physical buttons and came with ics than I would be jelous even with my nexus galaxy. Cause my galaxy has a horrible battery life and motorola are normally the best in that compartment.
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mctcm
(Posts: 204; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I just swapped my razr for a nexus. I would indeed be annoyed if this new razr was the chinese razr with the 720, fancy camera, and bigger battery.
nexus is pretty sweet though.
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Allday28
(Posts: 274; Member since: 19 Nov 2010)
So if this thing does have the higher specs, how many of you are gonna trade your Nexus in?? I might..
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KingKurogiii
(Posts: 5658; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Bionic Owners: uhh huh! don't feel too good do it? >;P
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Droid_X_Doug
(Posts: 5978; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
If you keep waiting for the next best handset, you will be waiting forever. I got my RAZR off of VZW's pre-order and while it appears to be on the verge of obsolescence, I am fine for another 9-ish months. When quad-core ICS handsets with a high end camera become available mid to end of 2012, I will be ready to move. I might even be making a move to the next edition of Moto handset.
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jinwons
(Posts: 95; Member since: 24 Nov 2010)
It's true there is always better phone coming after you buy any phone. The problem with Moto is they are churning out phones at too fast rate like every two months. Razr pissed off many Bionic owners on contract. Maxx seems like just bigger Razr, so buyer's remorse for Razr won't be that bad though.
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nuadar1
(Posts: 24; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Guys just pick up phone that suits you..there is NO point in changing phones every single week just because they have better specs...I tried most of the recent stuff but I'm still 100% love my Sensation and I'm not going to change it till like 10 or so months..it's really not worth it :).
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MorePhonesThanNeeded
(Posts: 645; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
Now this is funny, why would you get upset because you bought a phone last week and the company puts out a better one this week? Why should they limit their production to suit you? They have a business to run and like all business the only thing that matters is your money to help them make more money and create better products. You people need to have self control if you want to start getting angry over this predicament you put yourself into. No one told you to want the best and newest thing, get a phone and enjoy it well. Unless you work in the industry where it is your job to try everything out, I see no point in having the newest and best phone that comes out every week. But if I was the CEO of these companies I would love customers like you who have more money than sense, lol.
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KingKurogiii
(Posts: 5658; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
it seems like it's a waste of money to keep releasing handsets with mere incremental updates.
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mctcm
(Posts: 204; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
As you know, VZW has been pushing out "flagship" level devices very quickly. However, this December, VZW extended the return window. This results in a much higher than typical level of exchanges and returns for devices released, literally, weeks later.
So what? Verizon now has a nice level of used devices they can no longer sell as new. As a result, their profit suffers. Obviously, $300 for a devices on a 2 year contract is robbery to begin with so they are still making money. The point is that they are hurting themselves and annoying their customers who would like some level of satisfaction with their purchase for at least a reasonable amount of time.
Consider the analogy with another electronic segment. If you purchase a new LED 60" TV and the day after your 30 day price match guarantee expires the price decreases by 50%, how does that make you feel? Did you get your money's worth?
Customer satisfaction is a very important piece of doing business. Hopefully the above will help you realize how short sighted and dumb your comment is.
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ardent1
(Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Customer satisfaction = Goodwill
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ardent1
(Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
However, the doesn't work due to common sense business practices such as goodwill and franchise building. If you ran a company where you released new models frequently, eventually the consumers will wise up and wait. Also your handsets will be unduly expensive given the limited production run, high marketing costs per unit, expensive set-up times, etc.
If anyone looked at Moto's recent financial results, it's piss poor. Google is acquiring Moto for the patents.
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anubis13k
(Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I due for an upgrade on the 22nd and I'm getting the razr at Costco. If the razr maxx comes out in the first quarter of 2012 I'll be good for Costco's 90 day exchange window. Got to love Costco.
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whiteninjazx6r
(Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I was told by Costco, when I purchased my RAZR, that the 90 day return window is ONLY for the same phone, and 15 days to return infull/exchange for a DIFFERENT phone. I have confirmed this multiple times with Costco customers and the Costco/Wireless Advocates employees. Sorry, but you will not be able to exchange for the MAXX even if it does come out within the 90 days from your RAZR purchase. It would be nice tho. But most people would abuse the hell out of that deal. I would literally plan on switching my phone ever 3 months. There is almost always a better phone out for the same price every 3 months.
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anubis13k
(Posts: 5; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
That sucks. Well I guess I will just have to settle with purchasing accidental warranty. Either way never tend to take care of my cell phones so I go through one phone every several months
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arcq12
(Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
Motorola screws its customers.. they suck!
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whiteninjazx6r
(Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
So, on Verizon, what phone do you have that ISN'T a Moto that puts Moto products to shame? Please tell what you don't like about them? And please, for the love of god, don't say the fact that they quickly produce top-end equipment too quickly for your liking. Is it that they produced an extremely thin device? Is it too light for you? Are the build materials too high-end for your liking? How about the best version of Moto Blur yet? Is it the promise to bring ICS to their current high-end devices in early 2012? How about the good selection of accessories for their devices? Hmmm, I am running out of ideas as to why you would hate them and think that they screw their customers...As I see it, for VZW, the gNexus and RAZR are the big contenders right now...the Rezound is a close 3rd. And the Bionic...still a great phone. Needs some tweaking still, but Moto IS working on that. I swear, people will always find a reason to b**ch about a great thing.
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mikerouche
(Posts: 14; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
hopefully it comes out within the extended return date because then i can use it and decide between it or my nexus
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roldefol
(Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Look closer at that screenshot before you rail against Moto and start planning your trade-ins. The model number (XT912) is the same as the Razr and white Razr. That tells me that this is just a thicker variant of the Razr - no bigger HD screen, no better camera, just a bigger battery. They're just offering options for people who might want to trade thinness for extra battery life.
I don't doubt that a bigger, better Razr with a 720p screen and 13 MP camera (and hopefully ICS at launch) is coming within half a year, as that seems to be the Droid shelf life these days, but I don't think it's right around the corner either.
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ddragon2105
(Posts: 2; Member since: 17 Jul 2011)
My thing is this, just bec they say something is on their list doesn't mean it's coming out right now. It could just be in the works for mid next year. No one knows except for Verizon and Motorola. All you guys are doing is speculating what the phone is going to have and when it is coming out. I agree with the person on the first page when he said people need to go get the iPhone and kick rocks. If you think that the RAZR Maxx is going to be way better than the RAZR then, why did you get an Android phone? Go get an iPhone and you won't have to worry about who is going to have the better phone. You will know exactly when apple is releasing a new phone. That's the problem with Android, there are a lot of companies making phones for this OS and that are trying to out due each other. Get a phone, stick with it and enjoy it while you have it. Stop worrying about, well that phone has this and this phone has that. Enjoy what you have, trade up when you can and be happy. These companies are going to do what they want how they want to. Just be happy with what you have because not everyone can sit around talking about phones and upgrades. Other people are thinking about what to eat and how to survive. Think about that.
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jakson0100
(Posts: 27; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I just bought a RAZR on contract. With minimal use, I got 5% at 90 HOURS
with normal use 40% at 48 HOURS, so no I don't care about the RAZR
MAXX, mine is doing just fine, and slim enough I keep my Itouch 4th in
the same pocket, and the combo doesn't make my pocket bulky.
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