LTE enabled Apple iPhone coming in 2012?
However, in 2012 Apple is expected to re-design its big money maker and add a larger display. While working on the new design of the phone, Apple might as well clear out the room necessary to make it LTE enabled. While HTC, Samsung, Motorola and LG offer LTE phones, Nokia, RIM and Sony Ericsson are planning on their own high-speeds models for 2012 and so the competition gets tougher. Sources for DigiTimes say that an LTE flavored Apple iPhone will be coming to the market in 2012.
Only 35 LTE networks are up and running globally at the moment and that number should triple before the end of next year. By 2015, 290 million people will be covered by an LTE pipeline and sales of LTE enabled smartphones are expected to reach 154 million. Recently, AT&T started turning the power on its LTE network which is well behind Verizon's offering. Big Red had a huge head start for LTE service in the U.S.and both the number one and number two Stateside carrier will be joined by number three, Sprint. The latter, which just started offering the Apple iPhone this year, is planning on building out its own LTE pipeline and plans on offering 15 LTE enabled smartphones next year.
The new Apple iPhone 4S on AT&T is HSDPA compatible with theoretical download speeds of 14.4Mbps on the carrier's GSM network. This has allowed AT&T to advertise that the phone offers 4G like speeds although those speeds are not possible using the iPhone 4S on CDMA networks like Verizon and Sprint.
8. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
The hype starts weeks after the phone release.
iHate iHype so much.
iSHEEP!!!! IT"S OVERPRICED CRAP!!!
14. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
what is more sheepish?
-people buying a phone they like every year or two and using for normal phone features
-fandroids FLOCKING to every apple related article TIME AFTER TIME to post the EXACT SAME SENTIMENTS
im leaning toward the second one.
18. dirtydirty00 (Posts: 396; Member since: 21 Jan 2011)
i get a new phone almost every year.... but heres the difference...
each phone i get is a phone thats atop the phone food chain.
you guys run out every year and buy outdated s**t. s**t that i had in my phone 2 phones ago.
20. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4628; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yeah that sounds about right. You can take it further & say the same exact phone only with Siri!
23. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
And the "new" phone you buy every year is almost the exact same as what you had with a minor spec bump.
You sound like a sheep
28. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Are you suggesting a Droid, Thunderbolt and Galaxy Nexus are the same device?
29. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
They're very similar yes. Same operating system with minor differences in camera processor etc. just because you change the casing doesn't make it revolutionary.
That's another funny thing about droidbots. They bash Apple users for getting the same phone while their favorite company does the same thing.
32. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Seriously? You look at a 2009 Droid, a 2011 Thunderbolt and the Galaxy Nexus and see very similar devices? The only thing they have in common is a touchscreen.
Oh, and the only similarity that matters to you... they're all a Not iPhone.
39. GeekMovement (Posts: 1898; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Shows what he knows about android.
He's so focused on the iPhone he doesn't even sound like he's touched android devices before.
42. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
2009 droid to todays androids are not anymore of a jump than 3GS to iPhone 4S
43. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Except for shape, size and function (from physical qwerty to Swype), sure. No major changes.
45. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
huge increases in processing power, screen size, camera quality (which used to be complete crap), loads of new features that NO phone has ever had before,stability increases, reduced fragmentation by far, on and on and on.
yup.. exept for all that and much more, it hasnt changed.
without android to copy from apple would still be on version 2.0
46. GeekMovement (Posts: 1898; Member since: 09 Sep 2011)
Exactly what I was saying. Knows nothing about android.
The significant difference in just the user interfaces almost completely changes the experience in each phone. You might think so what if the UI LOOKS different the operations are all the same, well then you're saying that all phones are the same because the functions are the same, calling, texting, internet browsing, media, etc.
2. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Really, this is not news. News would be if Apple announced the iPhone 5 will NOT have LTE and that it would have to wait until 2013.
4. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I think the 2 biggest expectations for the i5 at this point are LTE/HSPA+ and a minimum 4 inch screen.
of course, right now, our resident ifans will tell you neither is needed, but when it happens, they will act like the cell world was just reinvented.. lol.
Better stop these rumors or its going to kill apples Q1 2012 performance.. :)
9. Mozarrt (Posts: 297; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
I'm hoping for a 3.7 to 3.9 inch screen. Its got to look classy and that just isn't possible with a 4+ inch screen.
11. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I had worked out last year - back when we thought the iPhone 5 was coming this year - that Apple could push the screen size to 4.0" and keep the same pixel density without increasing the phone size much. They just have to stop using the current 3:2 shape and switch to a modern 16:9.
Compare the EVO Design to the IP4... they can do it.
10. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
First of all, my biggest HOPES are: re-design, LTE, larger screen, larger battery (and battery management) to keep up with these new features, and something no-one has thought of that will blow every one away.
Second of all, Not sure what my EXPECTATIONS are. Really, this is a pushed product. They aren't gathering requirements from a customer and designing to those requirements. Our EXPECTATION is that Apple will release a quality product that is competitive with or surpasses current devices.
Third of all, stop acting like taco50 and fueling his lame flame.
12. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
im not fueling anything. Taco and I have that Q1 2012 bet. I love i5 rumors because they only help me win the bet. The better the rumor, the more people hold off buying an i4s and wait for the i5. :)
24. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I think very soon you will realize what a big mistake you've made.
25. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the board will be very quiet without you, but i doubt anyone will think it was a "mistake". lolol
26. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
is the bet all about iPhone 4s vs SGS2 or Apple vs Samsung sales for smartphones?
if it's about iPhone 4s vs SGS2, i don't think Samsung will come close, I can predict that iP4s will still top the charts up until Q2 next year.
As for Apple vs Samsung smartphone sales, Apple has 3 models and Samsung has a ton of them, so I guess Apple can't outsell Samsung..
27. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
It's Apple vs Samsung all smartphone sales.
Apple has been outselling them. Last quarter was the first where Samsung had more.
Arcq the amount of times your info is incorrect is rivaled only by remix our resident village idiot.
30. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
well, i guess you're the idiot because at this point, non of us are correct, all of us are just predicting..
but i still think that this is gonna be a close fight, because this is the first time that apple will have 3 models at the same time..
35. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it will be a close fight, someone is going to edge out the other. its manufacturer vs manufacturer. Samsung just edged out Apple who just recently took the top spot from Nokia so its anyones game.
The only constant is that there is no constant.
51. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Could you clarify what you mean by, "...this is the first time that apple will have 3 models at the same time.."
- 1st time the iPhone is on 3 carriers (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint)
- 1st time the iPhone comes in 3 flavors (16GB, 32GB, 64GB)
- 1st time there are 3 models? (3GS, 4, 4S) If this last one was your intention, not true, there was 3G, 3GS, 4 previously. Granted, you could argue that the current 3 are more viable options than the previous 3.
I'll predict you meant both of my first 2 bullets...that it's on 3 carriers being the biggest factor.
41. cnwwyo (Posts: 126; Member since: 26 May 2011)
I thought u were the village idiot? maybe village joto?
52. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
if you have ever tried to tell someone that was mentally disabled that they are infact mentally disabled for the first time in their life? they never believe you. Same principal with taco. He doesnt realize just how "special" he is. To him everyone else is disabled and he is normal.
3. vette21man (Posts: 351; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
I'll be perusing these "rumors," but the main thing I want to know is when this iPhone 5/6/2.0 will release.
AT&T First-adopter iPhone 4 owners will be up for upgrade in Feb 2012. I'll be ready May 2012.
Will I wait til June for an announcement? Probably.
Will I wait for September 2012? Not likely. ICS may be too enticing at that time.
6. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
good question. i guess we will find out this in june if they are sticking to the new christmas schedule as their yearly cycle or if they go back to their june release cycle.
7. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Who knows, maybe Android will force Apple's hand by next spring. I think they'll need to do something about the huge installed base on IP4 owners on AT&T. A June/July release shouldn't be ruled out, 4S be damned.
15. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
theres no rush. to get the maximum profit out of what (little) they did for the 4s, they will wait until sept/oct '12. the longer they wait, the more they profit. they might lose a customer or two, but that is not what apple cares about.
its so funny to watch all the absolute hate boil in some fandroids when all apple does is laugh all the way to the bank. they dont care about you and if you like their product or not. call it evil and get butt hurt if you want. its just good business.
16. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
and who exactly are you pointing all this vitriol at??
19. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
oh, i thought maybe you had some in particular in mind as there doesnt seem to be a whole lot of "absolute hate" boiling on this particular thread.. lol.
21. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
well, other than your posts, that is. :)
36. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
there really wasnt when i posted, but its rolled in since then.
its so strange that you guys feel so compelled to post so frequently about a device you dont like. it literally offers nothing to anyone.
53. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
so.. you were posting about vitrol.. and giving vitrol.. but you admit that were wasnt any when you posted..
so basically you were baiting people into an arguement. uh huh.
22. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I wouldn't be so sure. It was easy for Apple to keep scooping up current and future iPhone owners in '09, '10 and even this year. The public didn't really know anything else. I knew Verizon customers who referred to the Droid Eris as the "Verizon iPhone". iPhone was synonymous with touchscreen smartphones in general.
I think the public is getting better educated now. Android has grown to be something more than second choice, and it has clear advantages now, the biggest of which for me are 4G and variety of sizes. If Apple doesn't shift with the market, by next summer iPhone will mean dated design and lack of 4G.
37. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
dont you see that you (and your fandroid counterparts) are convinced of this, but a ton of consumers are not? if it was so clear that 4G and size options were so important then why would they be selling so many iphones?
38. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
The iPhone sells because it's the iPhone. And as I've said many times, for people who just want a simple smartphone with little maintenance, it's a great choice. People don't buy it *because* its overall design hasn't changed in years, they buy it *despite* it having the same design.
And I've heard from a few people who went into Verizon stores wanting the iPhone and coming out with an Android instead. People who bother to compare find something to like in the variety of Android phones. I think a lot of people still aren't bothering to compare because they think they want an iPhone. That's a testament to Apple's marketing, customer relations and staying power.
But you're only looking at today's market. LTE is still deploying, so it's not as big a factor as it will be in early to mid 2012. When there's 4G nearly everywhere and Apple is still sitting on the sidelines, people will notice.
40. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
so, everyone that bothers to compare and/or knows anything about technology picks android over iphone? stop being dense. there aren't millions upon millions that walk blindly past a dozen android options and pick up an iphone.
44. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
How did you get "everyone" from my argument? I said "a few people"... half of those I sampled who wanted an iPhone bought an iPhone, and the rest bought a Droid X, an Xperia Play, or something else that offered either size, form or function the iPhone didn't. I'm just pointing out that Android has affected the iPhone buyer base more than you give it credit for.
48. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
you also said 'a lot of people'. and if your aim wasnt to describe the greater smart phone buying consumer base, then why even bring it up?
android has obviously affected the market. they will continue to grow, but iphone's share wont decrease as quickly as you guys think. you put all of your focus on specs additional features. what iOS and the iphone offer is a simple, reliable, stable user experience. THAT is very, very valuable to many people. it is also where android is trying to catch up. They are doing a good job, but not there yet.
49. roldefol (Posts: 3260; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I was extrapolating the few buyers I've personally known to the greater buyer base. The fact that people still line up, still buy every new iPhone (practically) sight unseen, indicates to me that the cult of iPhone is still strong in spite of the alternatives.
I agree that the iPhone still offers the simplest user experience. I think in some ways ICS will change the equation, but it'll be several more months before ICS is available on enough handsets to affect the market. I expect word of mouth and good press for ICS to finally push Android past its "focus on specs"/geek stigma into the mainstream first choice.
50. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
good post rol. you are infinitely more reasonable than some of your fandroid friends.
im really excited for ICS. i thought webOS was the best mobile OS we had ever seen. it just didnt get the consumer or dev support it needed to succeed. i love what ICS has borrowed from webOS. I just pray to all things holy it will also bring that stability and unification as well.
54. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
initial sales are mostly to apple to apple upgraders. if it holds its own over the course of the year, then you will be right. of course only time will tell.
55. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
plenty of apple upgraders coming due over the year as well. and upgraders on apple's new carriers. it should be interesting. there are great android devices coming out, but none that are the absolute across the board spec giant that some thought the galaxy nexus would be. if they could get top specs in every catagory into one device, i think they'd sell a ton of them
5. Mozarrt (Posts: 297; Member since: 08 Oct 2011)
Same time we will be seeing LTE on Windows Phone I guess.
13. chuckyoo (Posts: 34; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
and let the suspence begin.............tick....tock.......
47. BattleBrat (Posts: 1247; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I am actually using a 2009 droid as my primary phone at the moment (I'm addicted to open garden, Open Garden + Unlimited data is a lethal combination) and I've played with a Bionic, and they are L I G H T Y E A R S apart, the Bionic is an epic beast, my droid, as much as I love it, can barely handle playing last.fm in the background as I surf with Dolphin. I should also mention that I have a 4th gen 64gb Itouch and about 200+ apple apps. I have an upgrade, but am on the fence between the 4s and the Droid RAZR