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Foxconn reduces overtime as iPhone holiday sales fall 5% to 10% under expectations?

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Foxconn reduces overtime as iPhone holiday sales fall 5% to 10% under expectations?
A report published on Tuesday says that Foxconn has reduced the amount of overtime it is assigning to its assembly line workers. The move by the contract manufacturer was allegedly made after Christmas holiday demand for the Apple iPhone fell under expectations by 5% to 10%. Stifel Nicolaus analyst Aaron Rakers notes that exports from iPhone manufacturing plants in China slid in November, after rising in September and October.

Rakers predicts that Apple will sell 74.7 million iPhone units in the current quarter, which includes the important holiday shopping season. That would be a small increase over the record 74.5 million that Apple sold in the same quarter last year. The company earned an incredible $18 billion during the three month period last year, the most any company has ever raked in over a single quarter.

Part of the reason for the big fiscal first quarter last year was the increase in the size of the Apple iPhone 6 screen to 4.7-inches from the 4-inches on the Apple iPhone 5s and Apple iPhone 5c. Apple added a 5.5-inch Apple iPhone 6 Plus. While the screen sizes of the Apple iPhone 6s and Apple iPhone 6s Plus remain the same, Apple added 3D Touch. This feature allows the phone to differentiate between a light, regular, and heavy tap on the screen. Apple also upgraded the rear camera on its new models to 12MP, and to 5MP on the front-facing camera.



source: NYPost

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posted on 30 Dec 2015, 02:19 4

1. AlikMalix (Posts: 6287; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


How high were the expectations? I mean, Apple sold nearly 50% of all smartphones this Christmas season.... what else do these anal-ysts want?

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 02:36 2

2. twens (Posts: 979; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


The point is the smartphone market is getting saturated even on apples side. After months of using my 6 plus I finally switched to the 6s plus and honestly there is no difference what's so ever. 3D Touch is a gimic to me because is don't use it at all. Only thing I'm enjoying on this phone is the consistent performance but I can't deny I get bored at times. The OS needs something to make it interesting. I hope Apple figures it out.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 02:56 1

7. AlikMalix (Posts: 6287; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


I dno, I kinda like jumping directly into certain parts of the app, without opening the app first and navigating thru a menu. My favorite is forcetouch a keyboard for scrolling the cursor when typing. Also, i get a lot of texts and emails from various clients who arent in my phonebook yet (or no reason to add at all) but when 50% of your texts are from unknown numbers "peek" to see what's inside a text is SO MUCH FASTER and intuitive than opening texts after texts to find the one I need.

I have 4 out of 7 games that I play that has forcetouch controls already in use - and games are better with it. But like nearly all Apples features - the initial releases are prequel to something huge - I'm thinking the FT tech is the start of in-screen-homebutton.

I can list the things that are really gimmics: Live Photos, Compass, Stocks, Watch App, Tips, iCloud Photo Sharing, and calculator app (asking siri is faster and you can ask more sophisticated calculations thanks to wolfgram alpha). Forcetouch isn't one of them..

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 03:26 2

12. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


But do not deny that Apple copied some FT features from Samsung's TouchWiz!

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 03:34

14. AlikMalix (Posts: 6287; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


I'll give you that... I'll also give the "2-finger cursor scroll" from BB that I described above. The problem with air-view, good idea - bad implementation: it was often erroneous and built no muscle memory. Apple coupled it with jolt feedback - it makes it natural - it took more than some software calculating pressed area, or oversensitive screen to make this work - now everyone knows how to do it right - you will enjoy it on your next android phone...

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 04:20 1

25. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Air View was very well implemented!
And hypersensitive screen is a great innovation from Samsung.
You could also turn the hypersensitivity of.

And I'll enjoy FT next year not because Android OEMs copy from Apple, but because Synaptics has included it in it's controllers.

Cheers! *^_^*

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 04:58 2

28. AlikMalix (Posts: 6287; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


So, Chinese phone announces FT a month before (and still not forsale) apple releases a phone you can buy perfectly working example that's also works throughout the ecosystem and already had 3rd party apps supporting it from day one, and by your definition "apple copied"

... yet a year later android starts to implement exact same thing, and it's because some third party started working on FT after apple started selling it - and you say "not because Android OEMs copy from Apple".

Come on, do you hear yourself?

It's the same thing with touchscreens, same thing with multitouch, same thing with app store, FP sensors, remote lock, built-in batteires, built-in tiered storage options, 64bit... dont you see a pattern?

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 05:56 6

32. meanestgenius (Posts: 12964; Member since: 28 May 2014)


Alik, seriously? Do you hear YOURSELF?

There were touchscreen phones BEFORE the iPhone.

There were app stores BEFORE Apples App Store.

And there was "Force Touch" BEFORE Apple implemented it on their handsets. Apple didn't create FT. And yes, they were the first to release a commercially available handset with it, as Force Touch is NOW, but they didn't invent it. BlackBerry, for instance, owns several patents in Force Touch, (and have owned them LONG BEFORE Apple even thought to incorporate it into their devices) and even implemented the precursor to it with the ill-fated BlackBerry Storm.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/09/blackberry-force-touch-before-apple/

Apple has brought some things to market first. They've even innovated some things and perfected others. And yes, the market tends to make it "the norm" after Apple implements it. But that's no different from when others ruled the market, like Nokia, Palm, BlackBerry, Motorola, etc.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 06:32 1

37. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Don't mind Alik, man. He's an Apple diehard who claims Apple invented the whole of FT.

LMAO

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 06:57 2

39. meanestgenius (Posts: 12964; Member since: 28 May 2014)


You know, I get that he's an Apple fan and likes their products. I get that Apple's products work for him. I even get that he defends Apple here in the comments section from trolls and haters. But what I don't get is how he seems so "blind" to what others have innovated, created, and accomplished compared to Apple. There are a lot of companies out there that have done things which have benefitted the smartphone industry. Those companies that I listed even own patents that are essential to the smartphone industry.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 07:48 1

42. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


It's due to such people that Apple fans in general are despised: iSheep, blind iWorshipper, etc...

I won't call him such names, though...

#HolierThanThou #AndroidFan4Life !

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 07:59 1

44. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2227; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Dude, you are the last person who should be casting stones from your glass house. It's like you don't exist until an article has "Apple" in the title, and then you are in Maximum Troll mode, as if Apple killed your dog or stole all of your family's money and left them on the street. Give it a rest.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 08:44 1

48. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


"It's like you don't exist untill an article has "Apple" in the title"

Seriously? Here are some articles which do not figure "Apple" in the title and on which I've existed:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-nixes-the-Nexus-6-from-Google-Store_id76491/comments?post=1338534#post_1338534

http://www.phonearena.com/news/PhoneArena-Reader-Awards-Vote-for-the-best-of-2015_id76782/comments?post=1343824#post_1343824

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Magnesium-vs-aluminum-or-why-a-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-made-of-magnesium-would-be-awesome_id76835/comments?post=1345778#post_1345778

http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-sold-450000-V10-units-in-the-US-in-45-days-of-commercial-availability_id76928/comments?post=1346319#post_1346319

http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-gets-Android-6.0-Marshmallow-via-CyanogenMod-13-nightly-build_id76765

Now eat your words!
SMH

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 10:08

54. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 10678; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


The market doesn't make every Apple does the norm after them. Apple simply rushes to beat the market to what they are already doing.

For example, if the Apple Watch didnt have all the problems it has during conception, it probably would have been first. Others weer already working an idea and because of the issues Apple had, they ended up being one of the last.

Apple rushed to be the first top have a fingerprint reader, when other OEM's were already about to do the same. To stall them, Apple bought the company that offered the capability of the largest production which prevented other OEM's from using them. This is why Samsung first one was terrible because they had to use another company which had a less viable option. After that Samsung made their own in-house.

All the guys liek you need to understand Apple. They dont make anything except the CPU. Everything else they buy. This is why I personally get angry when you give Apple credit for simply buying someone else's tech and shoving it into their devices. You fools actually think it belongs to them. Apple patented their own way of bring FT and it is limited and boring and does nothing. This compared to what Synaptics has which is better and why Apple is also goign to use it in the next iPhone just liek all the Android OEM's.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 10:20 4

57. meanestgenius (Posts: 12964; Member since: 28 May 2014)


First of all:

The market does indeed make it the norm once Apple implements it. Not saying that happens with EVERYTHING, but many things, yes. Stop viewing everything with your fanboy blinders on.

Second:

"Guys like me"

What the f- is that supposed to mean? Should I say "guys like you troll Apple articles"?

"When you give Apple credit..."

I give credit where credit is due, REGARDLESS of how I feel about the company itself. You should try it sometime.

"You fools"

YOU'RE the fool. You waste your time day in and day out trolling Apple articles with your "term paper" style posts. NO ONE CARES what you have to say about Apple, especially when you're speaking from a position of hate or dislike for all things Apple.

You need to SERIOUSLY re-read what you type BEFORE you post it if you don't intend on offending people while trying to get your point across.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 10:01 1

53. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 10678; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Give it up dude. Force Touch existed before Apple did their own.

Are you also not aware that Apple says they are in talks with Synaptics because the one Apple made isnt very good and it has supply issues which Synaptics wont have which all the other OEM's were already in line to get And apple is at the back of that line.

Apple didnt not bring Force Touch to phones. Based on facts, Blackberry did with SurePress.

Hwoever, back in the mid-70's, I watch a presentor in our class you a force touch capable display. He had a special pointer that when he actually "pressed" the screen with a degree of pressure, it cause other things to happen.

For example. In my biology class, the teacher has the table of elements on the screen. When he "press" it causes a certainly type of dropdown menu to appear which described the element. Then with a "longer press" that menu changed to another which showed its practice usages in industry.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 09:54

52. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 10678; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


First off it wasn't Apple who made the Force Touch hardware, it was Synaptics. They were already selling the hardware to other OEM's. Again you seem to think because Apple rushed to do it first, they somehow own it.

Apple is an OEM just liek everyone else, they buy every single peice of their devices with exception of the CPU.

Apple didnt do somethign right, they simply implement the hardware that Synaptics did right.

Airview was batter. I dont need tactical feedback. You really fail for that muscle memory bullcrap? Do you gusy fall for every marketing pitch Apple thorughs at you?

What made Airview better is, I never have to touch the screen and get fingerprints all over it for a simple gesture. There was nothing wrong with the implementation. What was wrong is the device it first appeared oh, didnt have the prow-ness to make it work fast enough.

But based on my usage, it worked every single time on the Note without a hiccup. The only device i saw it has issues was my wife's Galaxy S4.

You're not even reasonable. Apple bought Foprce Touch, they didnt event it. Is it better than long/short press?

I will say this. In many cases hardware that does the job in many cases is better than software implenetations..BUT NOT IN THIS CASE.

The reaosn why software option is better is because it can br brought to any device no matter its age as long as the device has hardware fast enough to handle it. Thus you wouldnt be forced to only buy a device that has the hardware only like Apple is doing.

The other issue with Apple and Force Touch is that they didnt even give it any good capabilities.

if you look at Synaptics own video of what Force Touch can do, Apple's version looks drastically lacking on so many points.

posted on 31 Dec 2015, 08:35

71. another1 (Posts: 157; Member since: 25 Dec 2015)


Techie you are so clueless

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 05:30

31. darkkjedii (Posts: 22050; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Force touch is a sweet feature, can't wait to see what they do with it in iOS 10.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 02:41

3. fyahking (Posts: 957; Member since: 28 Jan 2015)


They want 100% sheep!

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 02:45 1

4. AlikMalix (Posts: 6287; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


must you? really?...

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 02:46

5. Martineverest (Posts: 414; Member since: 27 Oct 2015)


Noting last forever

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 02:51 3

6. artificialintelligence (Posts: 154; Member since: 05 Dec 2015)


people are happy with the iPhone 6 there is no reason to upgrade to the 6s other than for its force touch the camera falls short of expectations most of my friends gave up their iPhone for an android phone the only reason to buy a iPhone these days is either to showoff , or brag i think the iPhone cool factor has gone down

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 03:04 2

8. AlikMalix (Posts: 6287; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Those that are upgrading every year, regardless of brand or platform, wouldnt see much to be excited about. I still think the mobile devices are a 2 year minimum per upgrade. Those that switched from iphone 5s or earlier (like me) definitely benefit from 6s offerings.

The rest of your post, is just jibberish. Maybe in some country where apple does not sell iPhones and are hard to get one - it's a rare novelty item, but when android devices cost more than iphones these days, I dont see it as something to brag or show off - people buy it because they either: like it, were happy with previous iphone experience, or got tired of android or others. As far as iPhone cool factor - it went down after iphone 2 or 3... but the sales just keep ramping up... It's a great device - deal with it!

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 06:20

36. Raito (Posts: 58; Member since: 15 Aug 2014)


Looks like i'm the only one that migrating from Android to iOS because Android is so BORING for me,,i dont need customization because i need phone that just work,even Windows 10 on phone are better,

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 03:12

9. cnour (Posts: 963; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)


Every year we read the same news and Apple continue to f**k the world.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 03:22 6

10. tedkord (Posts: 12225; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Well, 15% of the world, anyway...

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 03:54

19. AlikMalix (Posts: 6287; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


lol, tedkord, you get points for twisting that so cleverly... +1

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 07:54 3

43. tedkord (Posts: 12225; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


I love trolling trolls.

posted on 30 Dec 2015, 08:42

47. darkkjedii (Posts: 22050; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Absolutely hilarious.

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