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Despite recent stock surge, Nokia could be sliding on Palm-like downward spiral

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Despite recent stock surge, Nokia could be sliding on Palm-like downward spiral
Nokia stock has surged to over $4 apiece today as hopes are mounting that the Lumia 920 Windows Phone 8 is selling well, but that might be only temporary. Barclay Capital’s Jeff Kvaal, analyst of the wireless industry, noted many similarities in this growth to the one Palm had just when it released the Pre.

“Taking a look back historically, both Palm and Nokia saw significant upward moves in their stock price ahead of major device launches — Nokia ahead of the N8 (Symbian^3) launch in 2010 and Palm with the Pre in late Spring/Summer 2009,” Kvaal said. “In both cases, the stocks declined materially post launch.”

Kvaal also goes on to say the same could hold true for HTC and RIM. The analyst noted that it is unlikely for all three companies to be on the comeback.

HTC is expected to release a 5-inch 1080p monster phone early next year, but expectations of the analyst are that its success would only last for the short time before the Samsung Galaxy S IV launch. And when it comes to RIM, the challenge there is to sell BlackBerry 10 devices to more than just its traditional customers.

Do you agree with those opinions, or could Nokia, HTC and RIM finally be coming back?

source: BGR

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posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:30 10

1. wendygarett (unregistered)


Analyst from bgr? PASS!!!

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:57 5

12. persim (Posts: 18; Member since: 11 Dec 2010)


Analyst is from Barclay Capital not BGR.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 17:53 1

50. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


haha ok wendy ok lol :)

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 19:19 1

54. apocalypsebc (Posts: 148; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)


HTC has to keep stepping it up. I'll be switching to Nokia once Sprint get them in 2013. Black berry might be a forth eco system. Nokia will continue to succeed and grow along with Windows Phone 8 / Windows 8 if Nokia make a tablet as well. Is apple losing shares in the stocks?

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:33 7

2. androidlikeaboss (Posts: 40; Member since: 16 Nov 2012)


HTC seriously needs to advertise its phones, or else Samsung will kick its a** every time

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:39 5

4. OHaZZaR (Posts: 131; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)


HTC seriously needs to start innovating. The GALAXY Note II has the S-pen and all it's features which include S-Note, Air view, paper artist, multi window view. The GALAXY SIII has those features, minus the S-pen. The Droid DNA, well the screen is 1920*1080, and it looks appealing but other than that, nothing special. Same goes for the One X, which isn't getting any traction right now, as opposed to the SIII which is still one of the worlds most popular phones.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:50 9

9. androidlikeaboss (Posts: 40; Member since: 16 Nov 2012)


I don't see any problems with HTC phones,they have great design and feels great,they just need advertising and maybe a removable battery/ micro SD card slot to attract ppl to buy its phones

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 10:32 2

21. MeoCao (unregistered)


Nothing can save HTC really, imagin a fight btn 100 kg boxer (SS) and 50kg boxer (HTC). HTC needs a gun LOL provided their opponent does not have one.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 11:11

28. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1488; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


remember David and Goliath ....if htc lands a critical hit they will be back in the game , if not retreat

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 11:47

35. MeoCao (unregistered)


That's exactly what I mean: David had special skill: he could throw stones and he was smarter than Goliath.

Until now HTC is a David that has less skills and is dumber than Goliath.

What do you think the outcome will be? LOL

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 17:57

51. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


David had "faith" is what he had! lol theres was no way he was going to kill Goliath with a meesley stone.... so maybe we should do what he did (have faith) for the benefit of a good company such as HTC..........jus maybe :)

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 11:48 2

36. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


I bought Note 2 for its features. But not everyone wants those features. One positive about Android eco system is choices. HTC is a good choice when it comes to good looking UI (Subjective) and good design. If someone prefers that oer features, its understandable. People want their phone to look good. I too was confused, but Note 2 was more suited for my needs.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:41 2

5. android_hitman (unregistered)


HTC seriously must appreciate their customers like Sammy does.... HTC keeps f***ing fans over and over again.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:49 2

8. Emily1985 (Posts: 127; Member since: 08 Nov 2012)


Yes, what is the HTC flagship phone?
one X or one x+ or DNA or M7 ??

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 10:04 2

15. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


True that, and also, they should make more gimmicky softwares and add-ons. It's an effective way to gain customers which don't want to alter their stock roms(pop up play, multiwindow, airview,snote, etc.)

And the updates should keep on coming. Seriously, HTC Sensation, sensation XE not supported after a year? That's just sick.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 11:12 2

30. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


The Rezound was launched within a week of the ICS announcement, and HTC promised an update in early 2012. It didn't sell well and making ICS updates turned out to be more difficult, so it wasn't updated until August. The update that was given is very buggy and has many problems. HTC has stopped support, and that perfectly capable phone, is almost useless.

posted on 21 Dec 2012, 02:17

56. webOSlove (unregistered)


*cough* HP *cough*

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 10:11 8

16. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


And stop doing carrier exclusives. Come to think of it, the no-carrier exclusive rule applies to all three of them - they need every sale they can get.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 10:17 3

18. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Hey... that's what I said... thumb up man!

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 11:02 3

24. MeoCao (unregistered)


It's easier said than done man. HTC does not have power like SS or Apple to push the carriers.

maybe later Sony can but Sony must build up their Xperia brand first.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:38 13

3. Emily1985 (Posts: 127; Member since: 08 Nov 2012)


Sorry, but nothing can stop Nokia Now!
Nokia have the best SmartPhone and the best CameraPhone in the world(Lumia 920, 808)

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 10:58 3

23. MeoCao (unregistered)


Nothing, except MS and Elop so MS can buy Nokia for $1.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 11:52 3

39. Ruckus (Posts: 286; Member since: 20 Oct 2011)


I personally Nokia will rise to the occasion. Windows Phone is starting to take off and who better than Nokia to cash in?

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 11:53 1

40. iDroidWin (Posts: 117; Member since: 07 Dec 2012)


Nokia is too much dependent on OS. WP8 is good and has potential. But ecosystem takes time to develop and Windows needs to get better constantly. Android on the other hand, gives OEMs a free hand. That's why NAtureUX, Sense or Timescape are different. Even if Android doesn't innovate for one iteration, OEMs will. 4.2 wasn't a major upgrade, but Premium Suite took 4.1 to a new level. As long as Windows Phones do fine, Nokia is good and deserves to be a competitor. I want a Windows phone competitor without HTC having a monopoly over it.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:42 7

6. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4023; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Analysts predicts PA will report that this statement by analysts might be slightly false.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:55 4

11. wendygarett (unregistered)


And analyst predict you will meet wenda at the end of the Mayan calendar lol :)

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 11:12 5

29. MeoCao (unregistered)


Wenda? not Wendy?

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:48 3

7. lubba (Posts: 1313; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


This is not the palm days nor the smart phones of yesteryears. The game is different. f**king analyst and tech pundits! Always trying their best to pull Nokia down. I'm not sure why they added HTC and Rim. Now I'm rooting for all three hoping they succeed against their love child Apple and the like.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 10:27 1

19. MeoCao (unregistered)


It's not analysts who pull Nokia down, it's MS and their covered agent Elop.

posted on 20 Dec 2012, 09:55 3

10. ryq24 (Posts: 746; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


palm does not have the sales network of nokia so they are both different. nokia have sales office all over the world while palm is concentrated on north america and some few countries.

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