An iPhone with a 4 inch screen could be the same size as the iPhone 4S
A 4” screen might seem like a no-brainer, but it presents problems of its own. Apple has long said that they like the form factor of the iPhone, and they have steadfastly refused to increase the size of the iPhone even as American’s shifted in preference to 4.3” devices. Another reason Apple has resisted increasing screen size is that it would create imaging problems – do they keep the same resolution and just add pixels (forcing developers to revamp all of their apps) or would they simply reduce the pixel density to make it easier on developers (at the expense of image quality)?
A new mockup shows that this may not have to be an either-or proposition. A programmer named Will Hains has mocked up an idea that would allow the next iPhone to retain the same size despite its 4” screen, while also solving the dual problems of resolution and app compatibility. The solution would be for Apple to change the aspect ratio of the screen, adopting a taller screen while preserving the same width.
The resulting screen would be 1152 x 640 pixels, and could actually fit within the current iPhone size, although the home button would have to either shrink or change size. The result would be one more row of icons on the home screen, although it would open up quite a lot more room for watching movies or playing games. The aspect ratio wouldn't quite match up with the 16:9 format that many movies and most HD TV programs adopt, but it would be very close - much closer than the current iPhone screen.
It would also allow the UIs of most apps to stay the same in terms of pixel density; perhaps by default and app could float above the four bottom buttons with no change at all until a developer made the minor changes to allow for a longer full-screen app experience.
Is this what Apple will do? Time will tell, but we have to admit that this feels like a very “Appley” solution to the problem. We have no idea whether or not the mockup’s styling has any bearing on the final product – and really that isn’t important here; the key is that all the rumors pointing to a 4” screen on the next iPhone may not require a radical overhaul of existing apps, nor a change in size of the phone itself.
What do you guys think – do you hope Apple adopts this screen solution in their next device?
source: Good Will Blogging via Paris Lemon
1. ScelesticSteve (Posts: 26; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Screen size is definitely a big factor for me. I hate to leave Apple, but it's possible I might shop around if the next iPhone doesn't have a larger screen. There are no high end devices that still come out with 3.5" screens. Also, Apple hasn't made a change to their 3.5" since 2007 when the first iPhone debuted. That's 5 years of having the same screen, and it's getting old. Out with the old, in with the new, Apple!!!
13. biophone (Posts: 1896; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
While I agree its a bit outdated and I would like a bigger screen as well the fact they are the only ones with a high end 3.5 inch phone means that everyone who prefers a smaller screen but wants a high end phone the iPhone is the only choice.
27. marton.estok (Posts: 6; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
thats just not true, how about HTC Radar w 3.8" screen?
35. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
A lot people, especially the android camp, are caught up in screen size as measured diagonally as OPPOSED TO the total surface area. A 4" display with a 16:9 aspect ratio has LESS surface area than the same 4" display with 4:3 or even 3:2 aspect ratio, respective. I never liked HTC devices because the had 4" display but where very narrow like a thin rectangular. Instead I prefer something like the Pantech Pocket whose 4" display has 20% more surface area than a typical 4" narrow display.
If you like I can create a 4" display THAT HAS LESS surface area than Apple's 3.5" display. Again, go back to either your geometry or trigometry class -- it's easier to prove this with the law of cosines.
41. Mario1017 (Posts: 336; Member since: 04 Sep 2011)
I don't think it would have lesa surface area...the area would be the same if you measured. The lenthwould get bigger on a 16:9 display...but it will get thinner. The reverse for a 4:3. The surface area would not change at all like you said.
43. r41nier (Posts: 64; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)
wrong. I computed it.
a 4" phone with a 4:3 ratio would have a surface area of 7.68 inch^2 while a 4" phone with 16:9 ratio would have an area of 6.835 inch^2
the guy is right. you should go back to your geometry classes.
24. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
iPhones are very popular in schools.
Most children that are under 16 have phones nowadays.
The most popular phone among the children is the iPhone.
It's simple, and it fits the in hand prefectly for the kids.
After the kids use it, (believe it or not) the parents and relatives get one just to be cool.
True fact. I just wanted to point this out.
Also, young ones are attracted to the iPhone (iOS) because of the variety of games. Don't get me wrong here, Android has games, but in *overall quality* of games, iOS has a definate advantage.
34. mercorp (Posts: 987; Member since: 28 Jan 2012)
yes,this is true.Nearly all my classmates want or have iphones.I think that i am among the few classmates who wants a galaxy s3.
32. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
The screen size stayed at 3.5" but the introduction of the retina display set a new industry standard.
People need to understand that the iPhone is a phone first and smartphone second. Battery life is important for a phone since large displays works against battery life. Then there is the issue of 4G that uses up battery life quickly.
What Apple has done is to work on the battery life until it can support a larger display or better yet, a larger display and 4G. If you look at what Apple has done with the battery technology for its iPad series, then expect great things for the iPhone 5.
I don't have an iPhone and the smallest screen I will accept is 3.7" and would prefer 3.8". The 4" screen in this article is not aestethically pleasing and is too narrow for my taste.
44. SeniorEd (Posts: 15; Member since: 16 Feb 2011)
I think Apple should stick with their 3:2 aspect ratio and go to a 4" diagonal. That would be perfect. Pixels would be 720 x 1080 and the actual screen dimensions would only change a little, so they could keep the phone fairly small. Width would increase by approximately .28" (and would be pretty much the same width as a 4.5" diagonal screen with 16:9 aspect ratio, like the LG Spectrum) and length would increase by approximately .42".
Because of the aspect ratio of 3:2, a 4 inch diagonal would give plenty of surface area for web browsing etc. Okay, Apple, make it so!!
45. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)
O no that is ugly.... IP4 looks much better?!
52. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)
i dont think the rendering does the concept much justice.
the article and mock up are just for screen size. im sure apple would make it much more visually appealing.
49. bvalde09 (Posts: 172; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
I have to agree with you. The only difference is that I jumped the apple boat a while back. 5 Years and we are still waiting for a bigger Screen. I want to change my Phone (s2), but Im waiting on the SG3 or the Iphone 5. Its all about the specs and looks. Im not buying anything until I see both sides. If Iphone comes with something different I will Jump on the boat again. In the meantime Android fill all my needs
2. Mongre (Posts: 5; Member since: 06 Dec 2010)
No, Apple has kept the 4:3 ratio to keep it unified. If they change it to the 16:9, then it would drive the developers crazy because most of the apps won't work as well anymore.
7. galanoth (Posts: 346; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)
The iPhone has a 3:2 aspect ratio not 4:3 like on the iPad.
28. marton.estok (Posts: 6; Member since: 13 Mar 2012)
I'm not sure - perhaps apple will make a 16:9 screen, forcing ppl to switch to the new phone to enjoy the *revolutionary widescreen apps* :)
47. saiki4116 (Posts: 370; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
that might be possible with Apple.They already taught us how to hold a phone,why not this.
3. Lift_Off (Posts: 152; Member since: 04 Apr 2012)
I just hope they dont go over 4" with the screen. I actually like the size of the ip4 (yes I have used an SII, note, and others) it fits very comfortably in my hand and it doesn't feel like i have a huge object in my pocket like the nexus does. It would be awesome if they can make the screen as big as they can without making the actual device much bigger
40. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
i agree… i definitely like the size.. and a bigger screen would be nice, but they better not make the phone bigger… this might be when those rumors of not having a home button finally come true
also i really like the 3:2 aspect ratio.. the screen is way bigger than other 3.7 or 3.8 because of it… and it just feels better because of its small nature… i suppose 4:3 would be more acceptable for a larger screen, but i dont really want 19:9
4. Captain_Doug (Posts: 817; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
Speaking strictly about screens, not OS, a 16X9 aspect ratio is better for just about everything i can think of. In this case, you're not losing any width of the screen so texting in portrait won't be any harder, you'll be able to view more web page data, watching videos in landscape is better (most movies are 16x9). I really can't think of a way that 4:3 is superior. Devs best not complain, it's not their say. Porting games/apps from other systems would be easier. Also, Scott H, your screen dimensions are off. You kept the 960 instead of the 640. The screen would be closer to 1152X640, which really, if I was "Apple", I'd probably just kick it to 1280X720. 720p resolution sounds a lot better than 1152x640...
edit= can anyone think of a reason why 4:3 aspect ratio is better than 16x9 on a phone?
23. Birds (Posts: 1046; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
The iPhone screen is actually 3:2 aspect ratio which is in between 3:5, 3:5.33 (16:9) and 3:4. If they kept the same aspect ratio but mad either phone screen size larger like up to four inches, then it would be a great device for text messaging in portrait mode. Seriously, the iPhone's screen is alright for messaging as of now (I have large thumbs but they are quite nimble) but watching video is a pain in my iris....Just saying.
25. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Yes, I can indeed:
1) Pocketability- the smaller the phone, the better it fits in your pocket
Don't forget that women often have MUCH smaller pockets than men --> attracting women towards the iPhone
2) Access to whole screen. It is easier to move your thumb side to side rather than up and down on a larger screen. Without moving your hand (and only using one hand) it is easier with a wider, but shorter screen.
That's all I can think of, but I do agree, but I think 16:10 is the real "sweet spot" (aka 1280*800)
5. sgtdisturbed47 (Posts: 195; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
A 4" screen would be nice, but I do just fine with my iPhone 4 screen. A smaller screen also means better battery life.
48. Kalevro (Posts: 56; Member since: 11 Sep 2011)
I agree I like my iPhone 4 the way it is. I don't think Apple will change strategies because they are selling very well up to now and only a rating-popularity drop would make an effect on the hardware team leading to improvisations.
6. networkdood (Posts: 6329; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
The home key could be the same size if the top bezel was thinner....
8. BattleBrat (Posts: 1197; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
16;9 as I suspected.
I remember reading some Apple developer post that if apple just changed the Ratio to 16;9 without changing the resolution of the width it wouldn't be too bad, because all they'd have to do is space stuff out, but if they make the screen larger and increase the x and y resolution there would be a lot of work to do because they would have to rescale and resize all the objects...
9. shamataa (Posts: 202; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
This is Apple. They have their own way of doing things. I think they like to play it safe and they never seem to take a big jump. If they dont bump it up to a 4.0 inch than it will lose the costumers fast and will want to use another phone.Better phones are coming out in the coming months with better specs and screens like the Samsung Galaxy S 3 , if they dont do something than it wil be overshadowed and it will be a 2nd rated phone regarless what they call it on the final product. Its already a 2nd rated company already since last year. You cant teach a old dog new tricks what what Apple seems to be doing. I just dont see Apple a big competitor anymore since last year. They never seem to take a leap of faith. Look at the ipad 2 to the ipad 3. not a big jump.
33. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
Apple gives people what they want and the sales of the iPhones to date have supported this. Not only are the consumers happy, the Apple developers are happy as well.
It's funny how the critics never look at the hard data like number of units sold, customer satisfactory scores, and instead make up opinions that only make sense to themselves.
It's a phone and battery life is important. Plus it now has Siri in beta.
38. BattleBrat (Posts: 1197; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)
I had a 4s, it wouldn't last 12 hours just sitting there, and that was iOS 5.1. I got a RAZR, it lasts 2-3 DAYS, and has a 4.3 inch LED screen. I'm sorry but the 4s is horrid in the battery department. Which is wierd because the iPhone 4 was pretty good batterywise.
55. ardent1 (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)
The correct way is to compare the average android device to the iPhone. For example, the iPhone 4 has 6 hours of continuous 3G usage versus the average of 5 hours for android devices. My Motorola has 3 hours and 45 minutes of continuous usage, which is one reason I don't like android due to the short battery life.
Again, you need to compare the average Apple products against the average android products, since this will be more statistically sound. iPhone 4's 6 hour life is impressive when compared to its competitor's average of 5 hours.
26. nnaatthhaannx2 (Posts: 820; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
You know they say "the bigger the better" ;)
You, my friend, actually deserve some thumbs on that one!
17. Leon101 (Posts: 90; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
WHOA WHOA WHOA thats a sexy phone right there x___x!!!!
20. phitch (Posts: 214; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)
Are we looking at the same phone... it is a hideous monstrosity.
18. beefsupreme (Posts: 32; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
i think it would look better if the screen was wider instead of just being really tall. also saying that "the home button would have to either shrink or change size" seems a bit redundant.
19. jove39 (Posts: 1360; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
4" is decent I used vibrant for almost a year...but once your eyes see a 4.3 or 4.5 display...4.0 looks smaller...but thats just me!
30. Schmao (Posts: 302; Member since: 05 Jul 2009)
The bigger you go, the harder it is to enjoy something smaller.
21. Whateverman (Posts: 3233; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Although I don't see it happening...I woul like to see iPhones in multiple sizes. Maybe a 4", 4.3", and a 4.7". I know a 5.3" screen is probably out of the question, so I won't even think about that! I know Apple would want to avoid the whole fragmentation argument, but I would be cool to see different sizes.
22. babyk (Posts: 224; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
not only that it woudl hurt to see they fit mor escreen into the current bezel size from 4s cuz it will look too long and unappealing
31. Schmao (Posts: 302; Member since: 05 Jul 2009)
No matter what Apple pulls out, people will love it and make it the standard to judge everything else by. Fact.
36. Johnny_Mnemonic (Posts: 240; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
The FACT is that Apple is so greedy that it won't spend for a bigger creen for it will loose profit
37. oldmandaddy (Posts: 64; Member since: 01 May 2010)
4.3" is perfect . Retain same width for easy to hold and slightly longer so it can pack in more battery for bigger retina screen and Lte speed use.
39. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)
So in other news, Apple is still that little girl in the corner crying for attention
50. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Man that mock up looks horrible. I hope Apple doesn't come with such screen size. Something like 4.3 would be good.
51. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
Man that mock up looks horrible. I hope Apple doesn't come with such screen size. Something like 4.3 would be good.
53. scvzw2 (Posts: 32; Member since: 20 Jun 2010)
As far as battery life goes with a big screen I have a iPhone 4s now coming from a Droid Razr and I can say even with the bigger screen I have the same battery life as the Razr. BUT apps are much smother on the iPhone because of the standard ratio where as in android there are multiple so the quality vary.
54. tombayy (Posts: 1; Member since: 17 Apr 2012)
apple needs to get with the times. Ditch the lame home button there is absolutely not need for it ANYMORE. its just wasting valuable space that can be used to increase screen size. to unlock it you can always use the top right button. there is also a lot of screen size if they simply put the need to make the iphone any bigger. the real estate is there just utilize it better. put front facing camera as well as the listening speaker higher on the phone.
i like apple i on an imac, 13 mac book pro,ipad, 2 iphone 3g, and 2 iphone 4s. so yes i like apple, But that being said, i am really getting sick ad tired of apple holding out on technology just to keep you buying a new product every year. but they can so far since android has such hideous looking phones. listen HTC Samsung and everyone else. no one and i mean no one wants to see verion sprint or att logos plastered all over their cell phone. it makes phones look cheap and unattractive. learn from apple IDIOTS! look how sleek the iphone looks. do you see sprint verizon or ATT plastered all over iphone? HELL NO!! just how everyone likes good looking people same goes for devices.. humans are visual creatures i would think these other cell companies would have figured that out by now.
i actually want samsung htc or who ever to actually come up with a better cell phone than apple. why you ask .the minuet that happens apple will no longer have the luxury to hold of on technology specs, in order to compete they will have to put everything they have on their products. other wise they will not be in the competition. so please android please make a better cell phone already. and tablets as well. so while i am an apple fan i want apple to feel the pressure. pressure to update their products. they dont do it because they are on a class of their own right now. so android get your s**t together and beat apple. make them and force them to give us apple fans better technology. with bigger freaking SCREENS!!!