Samsung ATIV S Review

3. smallworld (Posts: 499; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)

And then Windows Phone is doomed.

57. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)

That purple phone on the first page is so fat and it looks like an iPod

12. ajac09 (Posts: 1482; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

Nokia is the reason why windows phones are doing so bad. Samsung and HTC will bring it back

14. JamesHunt (Posts: 37; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)

Like they did when nokia did not enter into WP market. Your comment does not make sense, sorry.

21. AmitMajumder (Posts: 178; Member since: 21 May 2012)

Windows Phone gained interest after Nokia entered. Their marketplace have grown much bigger after nokia started to make WP devices

48. RichieRich379 (Posts: 21; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)

I like nokia, but thats complete bull, Window Phone starting getting noticed when Microsoft decided to get serious about WP.

45. x88yunkw (Posts: 124; Member since: 20 Aug 2012)

sorry to say that htc n samsung have produced wp since years ago but nobody aware what is wp phone.
until.... lumia appear in the market.... people start to recognize what is window phone.
interesting is, human remember ' lumia ' rather than ' wp '

56. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

I agree in that I think Nokia doesn't help Windows Phone at all. Sure it's unique but most people don't want a big thick phone anymore. Thin and light with a georgeous big screen is where it's at. AKA Samsung.... and htc too

62. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

not true, there are those that want heavier phones aslong as the trade off is worth it i.e. better camera

not everyone wants thin flat slabs

77. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

Oh I know, of course some people do. That's why in my comment I said 'most'. 'Most' people do want a thin, light phone with a big flashy screen. And I think Lumias are great, but as far as appealing to the massses, I don't think it really does. I could be proven wrong, in fact I hope I am. But as of now I disagree with claims that Nokia put Windows Phone on the map.

80. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

well id disagree with you saying nokia didnt put windows on the map. just like how when people say android most think samsung when you say windows most will think lumia. sure its only starting.

second again you said ''most'' you cant say most as i could say most just want a mid range phone so none of these devices matter to them anyway

83. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

@chaoticrazor
I would be interested to see the statistics, but I wouldn't have thought that most people go for mid-range. Most of the people I know get the best phone that is out there at the time. But regardless, I said that I don't think the big thick Lumias will appeal to the masses. That doesn't change even if more people go for mid-range devices.

85. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

lol so you had to take a stab at the lumia's weight, the note 2 is a heavy phone its doing just fine so weight cant be brought into it. its not a valid problem

second there are many who arent tech knoledgable and just want a all round good phone that wont break the bank and mid range phones are what they get. us on here dont make up the market. the everyday customer is someone who knows little, the basics and just want a phone to get the job done.

how can the lumia's not appeal to the masses. easy to use, stylish ( no one can say they arent good looking phones) excellent hardware, smooth and fresh. people do look for the newest different thing. it comes in colours too which can be marketed to all ages. the lumia's have as much appeal as any other high end phone

87. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

Agreed! I don't know how many times I have to say I think Lumias are good! This isn't about whether they are good or not. I think when a newbie to the market walks into a store and looks at a thin, light samsung phone with a flashy screen, they will pick that over what looks at first to be a bigger, chunkier phone. Regardless of actual goodness. I love samsung, but know all that Nokia offers, I would probably pick a Lumia as well. But a lot of what is great about Lumias aren't right on the surface. Great camera with that awesome image stabilization, Nokia Maps, Nokia Drive, exc. But those aren't things that these less knowledgeable people we're talking about would know.

70. ajac09 (Posts: 1482; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

46 people that must be from finland hahaha

75. juusitu (Posts: 4; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)

It's just BECAUSE of Lumia 920 everybody has starting interested for WP. With only Samsung and HTC it would NEVER have become popular OS. Get the facts, you are only make laughing matter of yourself, stupid kid!!

74. juusitu (Posts: 4; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)

It's just BECAUSE of Lumia 920 everybody has starting interested for WP. With only Samsung and HTC it would NEVER have become populas OS. Get the facts, you are only make foolstupid kid!!!

82. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

I'm sorry, I'm not sure if you're referring to me as the stupid kid that doesn't know the facts, but I can see that you are both big Nokia fans, which is great. And its fine we can both have different opinions. I don't think Lumia phones are good enough to have single-handedly put Windows Phone on the map. I believe that improvements that came to the OS with Windows Phone 8 is what got people interested, and Nokia happened to come in around that time. Saying that HTC and Samsung would never help the OS get popular is purely false. HTC and Samsung (mostly Samsung) have built a huge name for themselves on Android, so people like and trust those manufacturers as much if not more than Nokia.

84. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

see obviously i can say your an android if not samsung fan, thing is the everyday average person wont really have much knowledge on wp8 as a whole but will instead connect the os to a manufacture.

like android = samsung the first thing people will think when you say wp8 is lumia or nokia. not saying the improvements didnt help but nokia have to be given credit for giving wp8 traction.

besides even though nokia's not in the greatest position most people still know the name and alot see nokia to mean excellent build quality

nokia should become what samsung is to android

86. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

Okay, I see what you're saying. When I think of Android I don't think of Samsung, I think of the OS. But maybe you're right and most less techy people would do that. And don't get me wrong I like Nokia! I'm very glad they're doing well so far on Windows Phone (I think). I hope it saves there company. My main point was just that I don't think they saved Windows Phone. I think they helped it. This is again my opinion, not claiming it to be fact. But I see where you're coming from.

89. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

i never said nokia saved windows, just there the driving force to bring it to the market and will (if they do it right) be associated and the first thing the average customer thinks when considering a wp8 device

what saved windows phone is the os itself, if it hadnt evolved then no amount of marketing or great device could have saved it. so i get what you mean and wp8 on its own should be given the credit it deserves

90. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

Yupp.

27. AnTuTu (Posts: 1580; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)

I know why you didn't mention Samsung here. Because you are A 4 Apple :)

59. bvalde09 (Posts: 188; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)

Mmm Nokia its fine but I think Samsung Ativ S is a monster

78. yajia1 (Posts: 151; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)

WP did not start getting famous because of lumia. It is because Microsoft became more serious with the OS and created WP8. Stupid people. I don't even see anyone with lumia 900/800 anywhere and I travel a lot. Everybody either has Galaxy SIII or iPhone 4/4s

81. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

you should look harder then, i hardly see anyone with a gs3. seen more notes then them

and lumia 800/900 ive seen many of, dont try to invalidate an entire os by claiming you havent seen them

88. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

Saying that you hardly see anyone with the gs3 doesn't mean anything. Because in pure sales numbers you can see that gs3 was the most successful Android phone ever; it sold over 30 million. Nokia phones, while I think they're very good, have no such numbers.

91. chaoticrazor (Posts: 2347; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)

maybe but all im saying is just because you dont see them day to day doesnt mean there not out there

if your going on sales, look how many iphone 5's were sold...i still havent seen one person with one

people who write comments like that are only doing it to invalidate an opposing choice to there proffered os and it gets boring

92. CellularNinja (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)

How can you accuse me of trying to invalidate an opposing choice? I have done nothing even close to that. If you think saying that the Lumia is a great phone over and over and saying I would choose Lumia over other phones is invalidating it then you need to touch up on your vocabulary.