iPhone 7 Plus explodes in China after drop accident
posted by Luis D. / Nov 11, 2016, 4:43 PM
This is the fourth case of an iPhone 7 exploding that we know of. The other three happened as follows – during deilivery, while the owner was taking a video, and inside a car that almost burned down. While the iPhone 7 doesn't ignite as often as to suggest that it's fundamentally defective like the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 was, Apple must address the problem with all its seriousness.
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"While the iPhone 7 doesn't ignite as often as to suggest that it's fundamentally defective like the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 was, Apple must address the problem with all its seriousness." I don't criticize authors because it isn't helpful most of the time, but try to add context to your work in the future. The number of discrepancies here include but are not limited to: A) Evidence of prior incidents being authentic in nature. Similar to the Note problem, fabrication could be a play. B) Scale. In the two months since release, Apple has sold something like 25 million iPhone 7 units, compared to four million Note 7 units. That's 6x as many units in the wild with 15x less the number of reported incidents..... which should be communicated in some fashion to the reader. Tl;dr- Do not compare the two cases, please.
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 4:59 PM 21
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Smug attitude that give the world Donald Trump. Now we will all pay!
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 6:19 PM 2
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To add to your post, most of the iPhone 7 cases have happend due some type of incident where the phone dropped or it was in transport. Also, unless I missed something, I only know of 3 iPhone 7 incidences that have happened. One was the iPhone in transit, another was in someone car and the last was this incident where someone drop it. All the others were older models like the iPhone 6 or 6s. Can someone direct me to the other iPhone 7's exploding?
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 7:17 PM 1
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The one in transit should've never happened regardless. It's in a cardboard box that would've dampened the shock felt by the phone. And older devices should make no difference. At what point is it no longer an issue? The person who owned the older devices doesn't care if it's 1 month or 1 year old, they're still out a phone and it's still a safety hazard. You act like people should expect something like that in a device more than a year or two old. It's never acceptable unless there was serious damage done to it. I've got old phones going back to 2010. If it happened with one of them, while I wouldn't expect them to cover the damage, I would wonder what happened to cause it and be a bit leery of buying that company's products in the future.
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 10:18 PM 3
There was that one incident where an iPhone 7 "went off like a grenade", phone arena wrote an article on it, you know the one where the guy got injured and definitely wasn't just looking for attention/compensation because the battery was completely intact.
posted on Nov 12, 2016, 1:35 AM 0
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This is the first time that I hear a phone battery failing so catastrophically due to the device being dropped. This type of failure usually require the battery to be pierced in some fashion. It could be that one defective battery or it could be an indicator of a larger battery problem.
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 5:27 PM 8
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It has happened quite a few time before, but it has often been downplayed, with the whole 'using wrong charger' thing, note 7 had around 100 phones or so and everything blew up, it is....sadly more media then actual facts of stuff being dangerous, I know a few note 7 users that are frustrated and devices are working quite fine, but with Samsung taking no chances, they might just do the hand in, but as it is, even under heavy load, often recharge, gear vr use, they are having no issues, not even heat issues. And given Samsung still hasn't found the cause (the absolute worse thing they can say to customers and investors), you have to wonder if there is foul play, it isn't like it would be hard to find 100 willing people to do something (and this is not a jab at those people, more the fact of numbers), but yeah they shouldn't blow ever, so samsung did right in recall.. So yeah, we will see, but honestly Apple's obsession with shaving them thinner each year, wouldn't surprise me if it reaches a point where there simply isn't enough metal to absorb a bad drop, and all lithium batteries are not happy about getting impacts.
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 5:41 PM 3
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The problem I see is that OEMs are to concerned on how thick a phone is. You can only jam so much in reduced amount of space. I do believe that if OEMs keep the same trend we will see more cases from more OEMs.
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 5:31 PM 0
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To paraphrase Dr. Ian Malcolm from Jurassic Park: "They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could make it thinner that they didn't stop to think if they should." Phones are already too thin. They're uncomfortable to hold, battery life isn't great and they're fragile. Stop it already.
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 6:05 PM 0
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Nothing to see here. It was dropped. Note 7s exploded for no reason....Apple can continue to sit comfy.
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 8:33 PM 1
Wow... People are stupid... So u guys are saying that it is ok for a device to blow up when it gets dropped huh? I get that now...
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 8:53 PM 1
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Wonder how long until they stop mentioning the Note in every phone explosion news
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 11:36 PM 0
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Imagine Apple has similar problem like Note 7. How they handle the situation? If they stop selling iPhone 7, they probably lose 50% of their value. Most of their profit is from iPhone. They are not diversity like Samsung.
posted on Nov 11, 2016, 11:55 PM 1
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"They are not diversity like Samsung." Some two-thirds of Samsung's profit come from its mobile/electronics division. So diverse.....much wow! "How they handle the situation?" They don't have to......hypothetical fallacy at it's finest. "Imagine Apple has similar problem like Note 7." I'm gonna say this again unfortunately....... hypothetical fallacy. "If they stop selling iPhone 7, they probably lose 50% of their value" That's not how value works fam'. Part of the reason they lost so much involves politics about their top brass and scandals regarding government laundering. On top of that, there was a call for heads to role. That's why Samsung's value dropped so steeply..... not just the Note 7 catching flames. Anymore questions you wanna ask?
posted on Nov 12, 2016, 12:12 AM 1
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Earnings on the quarter ended June, 2016, which was their best in two years, had the mobile division account for about half their earnings. That was in a quarter where their mobile sales were up 57%. I don't know where you got two thirds from, but it's never been that high. As for diversity, I think I read that Apple's iPhone accounts for almost 90% of their profits (someone correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, then yes, there is a huge difference in diversification.
posted on Nov 12, 2016, 3:52 AM 5
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Don't be so daft, when you know he has an interesting point. Of course it's a hypothesis, but the point is that it highlights the risk involved when most of your business relies on phones and a huge chunk even on one single model. Not accounting for the last quarter anomaly (Note 7), Samsung's mobile profits have hovered between 32 and 58% of the total profits for the electronic division. But that's only part of the diversity, because within Mobile they are far more diverse too, with a range consisting of dozens of models versus only a handful at Apple. The Note range usually doesn't account for more than about 15 million sales, as part of over 320 million phones sold in a whole year. This year alone, they expected to sell 4 to 5 S7/ S7 Edge phones for every Note 7. Even taking the high price point into account, that would be less than 18% of the total Mobile revenues, never mind Samsung Electronics as a whole. Yet the cost for the recall cost Samsung several billion in direct costs for 4 million phones. That's not even accounting for stock value. Apple thinks it can sell at least 100 million iPhone 7/ 7 Plus in a year. That is a huge (tenths of billions) financial risk if they ever have to recall, again, even before accounting for stock value changes as a result. A scenario they know is possible too. Stock value changes should indeed be ignored, too many factors involved. Even today, where as you mentioned the Note 7 and possible scandals at the top, not to mention the presidential elections have affected the stock value, Samsung Electronics is just 6% down from their all time high.
posted on Nov 12, 2016, 5:43 AM 2
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