2021 iPhone 9 (SE2) Plus to feature Touch ID power button, LCD display

2021 iPhone 9 (SE2) Plus to feature Touch ID power button, LCD display
Apple has an extensive lineup of products planned for the coming months and several new iPhones scheduled for the second half of the year. It also has another smartphone planned for the beginning of 2021, which will reportedly substitute Face ID with Touch ID.

A blend of the iPhone 8 and iPhone 11 designs


In a research note with TF International Securities published earlier today, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo revealed the so-called iPhone 9 Plus (or iPhone SE2 Plus) will blend the best of the iPhone 6/7/8 design with the best of the newer iPhone XR/11 series.

That’s because Apple is planning a modified version of the existing LCD-based all-screen design that ditches Face ID entirely. The move should allow the company to implement a noticeably smaller notch or perhaps even remove it entirely, therefore providing a more immersive viewing experience. 

To ensure buyers are still able to unlock their device securely, though, Apple is reportedly planning to replace its latest biometric technology with the trusted Touch ID implementation it first introduced back in 2013 with the iPhone 5s. 

But unlike previous-generation iPhones, this time around the capacitive fingerprint scanner will be embedded into the side-mounted power key. Ming-Chi Kuo says this is going to offer a “new design” that’ll ensure a great user experience. 

The iPhone 9 Plus will probably replace the iPhone XR


The iPhone 9 Plus will reportedly feature a 5.5-inch display or a 6.1-inch screen. But following today’s information, the latter now seems much more likely.

Apple is expected to position the smartphone as a cheaper yet superior replacement for the iPhone XR when it debuts in March 2021. But if it insists on providing an all-screen design paired with side-mounted Touch ID, it makes much more sense to simply reuse most of the iPhone XR’s structure to keep costs down.

Creating an all-screen smartphone with a 5.5-inch LCD screen is something Apple has never done before and would, therefore, require a completely new body. This move would drive up costs and ultimately defy the point of the iPhone 9 (SE2) series.

It’s also worth pointing out that such a strategy would nicely complement the 2021 iPhone Pro series. Rumor has it Apple is developing smartphones that incorporate Face ID in a smaller notch and under-display Face ID, one of which may also ditch the Lightning connector. 

It will sit alongside the compact iPhone 9


As the upcoming smartphone’s name clearly indicates, the iPhone 9 Plus will ultimately sit alongside the smaller iPhone 9 when it launches in the first quarter of 2021.

The latter, for those of you that aren’t yet aware or simply need a refresh, is expected to couple the iPhone 11’s powerful A13 Bionic chipset and a decent 3GB of RAM with the 4.7-inch LCD screen and thick bezels featured on the iPhone 8

A single rear camera, likely borrowed from the iPhone 11, that can take advantage of Night Mode is expected to complete the package alongside iOS 13 straight out of the box and a tiny 1,821mAh cell. Fortunately, the increased efficiency of the chipset means the phone’s battery life should be better than that of the iPhone 8. 

Apple is expected to price the iPhone 9 at $399 and start shipments in the final week of March. However, the recent coronavirus outbreak’s impact on Apple’s supply chain in China means the stock could be relatively limited at launch.

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38 Comments

24. jove39

Posts: 2152; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

If apple launches phone with physical dimensions of iPhone 8 + all screen front + Touch ID in power button. Then I’ll definitely upgrade from my iPhone 7.

10. meanestgenius

Posts: 23040; Member since: May 28, 2014

I’m going to keep saying this: If Apple releases a $400 midrange iPhone with the A13 Bionic flagship SoC and a fingerprint scanner (PLEASE not just FaceID), it’s going to kill everything in that segment, sales wise. Apple will undoubtedly gain more iOS users this way, and increase their services revenue.

15. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

You are forgetting one crucial point. Usually people who buy more expensive phones are also the one who spend lot more for their services and gadgets. That's one reason why apple gadgets are so popular, for example Apple Watch while for example Galaxy gear sales are very small, because Samsung flagship sales and userbase for those is also very small even when the Samsung whole userbase is lot bigger than Apple. same goes to Samsung tablet sales. potential big userbase is there, but not the users with money or the interest towards tech. These things are connected. Same reason why App store does a lot more money than play store when based on android marketshare that shouldn't be possible in any way, but it is because more expensive phone users usually have more income to spend and they spend it more easily, this is the reason why Apple users are always on top when there's news about spending on apps, services etc. So yes i'm not sure if that would do more harm for Apple than good. I'm sure Apple have done all the calculations and thought every scenario what they should do and which is right decision for the business plan.

30. meanestgenius

Posts: 23040; Member since: May 28, 2014

I’m not forgetting anything, and I’m pretty sure that there is a good amount of people that purchase less expensive smartphones that would be willing to shell out cash for some of Apples services, like Apple Care, the inexpensive Apple Arcade, etc. I’m also Apple weighed all of the pros and cons, and decided that it’s well worth it.

5. Cat97

Posts: 2055; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

This means that the 2021 iPhones will have TouchID under display, finally catching up to 4-years old phones. Imagine Apple users fooled so many years saying that FaceID is better than fingerprint and now scrambling to find reasons why TouchID is actually better :)

7. cheetah2k

Posts: 2332; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

under display power button????? Nah i doubt it. More like just the std button with a FPS in it

8. Cat97

Posts: 2055; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

No man, the regular, more expensive iPhones will have under-display fingerprint scanner, while the cheaper ones will have it in the power button, just like Samsung's lineup for 2019.

11. magnaroader

Posts: 74; Member since: Feb 25, 2016

STD button? We're willingly allowing diseases into our OS now?

12. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

Did you even read the article? "It’s also worth pointing out that such a strategy would nicely complement the 2021 iPhone Pro series. Rumor has it Apple is developing smartphones that incorporate Face ID in a smaller notch and under-display Face ID, one of which may also ditch the Lightning connector. " Face ID isn't going anywhere. Because yes it's better and it will only get better every year, it's more versatile. The more places you need security or automatic actions the better Face ID gets, eventually android companies will follow the same path. Actually Samsung already brought update to their galaxy S10 5G which offers ToF face recognition. Not surprised if they marketing this with their S20 line. then we also have this "Another (exclusive) S11 leak(?). In the Face Service app, Samsung has started to work on the UX_Picasso. Essentially, the UX for the S11. In reality, it doesn't say much about anything besides Samsung is actively working on facial recognition." This from few months ago. So yes Samsung is definately looking possibilities of face recognition too.

29. wickedwilly

Posts: 785; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

Better in your opinion, for me and many others having both is the best solution. Clearly both is the most versatile system and comes without the need for a massive notch and the loss of a precious usable screen area. "eventually android companies will follow the same path" Let's get something straight. Android OEMS had face recognition way before Apple copied them. I have been using it for years before Apple was able to add it and yes one of the phones OEMS were from Samsung, so do not try to say Samsung is working on Face recognition only now, it was before Apple.

32. Vokilam

Posts: 1481; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Does this fool really thinks that face scanning and Face ID are the same thing?

33. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

I think he does!

38. wickedwilly

Posts: 785; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

I do and I am correct. Only a fool like you that follows all the marketing bull Apple puts out at times would think otherwise.

37. wickedwilly

Posts: 785; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

So what is Face ID on a iPhone ....... oh yes a mechanism that IDs scans your face to unlock your phone. What is every other Face recognition system ...... a mechanism that IDs scans your face to unlock your phone. So who is the fool, look in the mirror. There may be different methodologies in carrying out this task, some may be better than others, some faster or slower or even more secure, but they are still face scanners.

36. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

You are now confusing to using just front camera to scan your face vs real tech which is secure enough for example using samsung pay or google pay to pay your stuff or open the banking app. Huawei have this. "so do not try to say Samsung is working on Face recognition only now, it was before Apple." They are now working of face recognition which is secure as face ID and can be used for paying stuff, opening banking apps, automaticly filling passwords etc. It will work just like Face ID and it will use ToF for it, so far Samsung has only used front cam which can be fooled by photo.

39. wickedwilly

Posts: 785; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

I am not confusing anything. Are you saying any method of unlocking the phone by using the face other than Apples is not real tech? That is utter nonsense. Apples solution may be more secure, but that does not mean other methods are not face recognition or worse than Apples. It has upsides and downsides. For example, I and millions of others prefer the speed and flexibility of simple face recognition and no notch, if we need more security we can use the finger print scanner. Many millions of iPhone users miss the fingerprint scanner too. The combination of both face and fingerprint scanner gives the best combination of security, flexibility and design. Just like the gimmick that was 3D Touch it is likely that Apple may yet again copy what is happening on Android and drop Face ID.

13. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

"and now scrambling to find reasons why TouchID is actually better :)" There isn't many as i'm using both daily, but i can find many reasons why Face ID is better, for the fact you don't need to touch (except when unlocking your phone) your device everytime you need to use it makes big difference in everyday usage. For example when i open my banking app it just opens. i don't need to extra push the fps scanner. When i use safari and go to site which have password login, my iPhone fills those stuff automaticly. My whatsapp is locked with Face ID, but when i use it it doesn't feel like it's locked, same with my private folder app and so on. Many times I wish my iPad would have Face ID where it would be even better than on the phone, but well this year it will when i upgrade my iPad.

14. joshuaswingle

Posts: 769; Member since: Apr 03, 2018

Face ID is much better than a fingerprint scanner IMO :) When I owned the Mate 20 Pro, which had both, I expected to use the fingerprint scanner but ended up using face unlock all the time

18. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

Were you able to do these things with Mate 20 Pro which i said why i think Face ID is better? or did you only use it to unlock and maybe buying stuff from play store etc. I think the problem with fps vs face recognition talk is the fact that most people only think the unlocking thing and nothing else, because they haven't used face recognition and haven't seen what else it can offer in daily usage. People only talk about how fps is faster.

26. Vancetastic

Posts: 1948; Member since: May 17, 2017

I used FaceID for a year and a half, and still prefer a fingerprint scanner. I'm well aware of what it's capable of, and still didn't like it better. Different opinions are things that people have, and it doesn't mean that they are uninformed just because they don't agree with yours.

19. Cat97

Posts: 2055; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

Let's imagine that you have a job, which involves placing the phone on the table near your computer screen most of the time. Like 90% of people do. Now try to check for notifications using your FaceID, compared to using a front or side-mounted TouchID. With the TouchID you leave the phone where it is and just put your finger on it and the screen will light up, you glance at the screen and then continue your work. With TouchID you must lift your phone from the table, hold it in front of you and then check. Now let's imagine that you drive a car, and have your phone in a cradle, like most people do. You are at the semaphore and want to check for notifications. With FaceID, you must lift the phone from the cradle and hold it near your face. With TouchID, you place your finger on the sensor and you read the information without doing anything else. FaceID is cumbersome and non-productive.

22. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

I don’t understand what you are talking about? if i want to check my notifications i tap the screen and it wakes up, you don’t need Face ID for that. ” With TouchID you must lift your phone from the table, hold it in front of you and then check. ” You propably meant Face ID and i definately don’t need to do that. You clearly have very minimum experience with Face ID, if you have any at all? ” Now let's imagine that you drive a car, and have your phone in a cradle, like most people do. You are at the semaphore and want to check for notifications. With FaceID, you must lift the phone from the cradle and hold it near your face. With TouchID, you place your finger on the sensor and you read the information without doing anything else. ” Well i think this answer to my guestion i just asked :D again what’s up with this face ID with notifications? I just tap the screen and i see notifications. Even if it would need face ID, i don’t need to take phone out from cradle. You clearly don’t know how wide angle Face ID works, It’s actually quite crazy. I just measured it and your phone can be side of you around 15 inches, so you see with cradle there isn’t any problem. If you don’t believe me just check this videohttps://youtu.be/mgUGkM5kxOM he isn’t lifting the phone when he’s sitting in driver place and the face ID works just fine. Do you seriously think Face ID would be so popular if people couldn’t use it in their cars without picking phone and putting it front of their face? C’mon. ” FaceID is cumbersome and non-productive.” no It’s your knowledge about Face ID which is wrong.

25. Cat97

Posts: 2055; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

So you mean, anyone touching your phone without unlocking it, can read your notifications ?

27. Vancetastic

Posts: 1948; Member since: May 17, 2017

Yes. I made my notifications private on my iPhone, and had to lift it up and unlock it to look at them. I agree, it's more cumbersome in certain situations.

34. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

yes, i don't have anything to hide about my notifications, there's also option to hide notifications, i tried it and didn't like it.

28. Vancetastic

Posts: 1948; Member since: May 17, 2017

If your phone is within 15 inches of your face while you're driving, you've got another set of issues.

23. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

” you must lift the phone from the cradle and hold it near your face” You never need to do this with Face ID, it works from wide angles in every direction, holding it near your face could not unlock it because you are too close! and it also would look stupid. Just use your phone normally and you would notice how easily Face ID unlocks your phone even before you tried to scan your face. In a long time i haven’t even thought the Face ID or trying to scan my face, i just use my device normally. I know when first Face ID came for iPhone lot of users used it like you described because the tech was new and people didn’t trust the tech or didn’t knew how it works so they thought you have to lift your phone close to your face everytime to scan your face. NO! Just NO! For example currently i’m sitting on couch, iPad front of me on a couch and iPhone side of the iPad from some distance. I tap the phone screen and it unlocks right away. You wouldn’t except that to work, how the Face ID can even scan my face when the phone is so far away at the side.

31. yonith

Posts: 231; Member since: Sep 11, 2012

You’re simply wrong. There are scenarios at work where I have to pick it up off the desk whereas I could previously just scan my finger and not have to pick the phone up.

35. midan

Posts: 3261; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

Of course, it depends on your angle, how tall or short you are, the distance for your phone, how high your desk is etc. I personally don't need to pick up the phone for face ID to see me after Pro, with X i had to sometimes, but Pro has wider angle and it helped for that.

40. yalokiy

Posts: 1145; Member since: Aug 01, 2016

@joshuaswingle Perhaps the FP scanner on Mate 20 Pro isn't reliable enough. The one on the back of by OnePlus 6 works instantly and reliably every time.

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