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Would you buy a phone with no wall charger in the box?

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Would you buy a phone with no wall charger in the box?
British carrier O2, together with HTC, recently completed an experiment called "Charger Out Of The Box", where the Taiwanese supplied their One X+ handset without a wall charger.

The premise, besides saving a few cents, was that there are about a 100 million unused chargers in the UK, most of which end up in a landfill, especially the ones before charging ports got standardized in Europe.

It turns out that not only did most customers decline a separate charger, but the 70% goal was reached and surpassed with a full 82% of HTC One X+ buyers implying they can perfectly make do with only a microUSB cable or chargers from previous handsets lying around. According to O2's CEO Ronan Dunne, the unused chargers roaming around the country equate to:

  • A total of 18,700 tonnes of components (the same weight as 1,000 London buses)
  • 124,274 miles of copper wire and plastic covering (enough to wrap the O2 Arena 200,000 times)
  • A volume of landfill equivalent to four Olympic swimming pools if all were thrown away

He called the "Charger out of the Box" initiative a success, and, armed with customer data from the experiment, is now aiming to supply all carrier phones without chargers in the box by default by 2015. 

What do you think about this little test, would the lack of a wall charger in the box with your next phone present a problem, or does it usually just sit in the drawer after the unboxing anyway?

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Would you buy a phone with no wall charger in the box?
Those cheapskates are making an environmental excuse now!? I'm paying good money, they could at least throw in a charger! 54.32% (704 votes) (704 votes)
Meh, who cares, if they don't put one in, I'll figure it out 14.89% (193 votes) (193 votes)
Discarding electronic components at landfills is a growing problem indeed, I have enough duplicate chargers or cables lying around! 30.79% (399 votes) (399 votes)

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posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:10 19

1. firestarter2 (Posts: 16; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)

Hmm I wonder if the phone price was reduced by the appropriate amount... sounds like a way to make more profit while pretending your motivation is good

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 14:10

28. Jonathan41 (Posts: 532; Member since: 22 Mar 2012)

It's not like they aren't offering you a charger. You just receive one upon request.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 20:00

39. metalpoet (unregistered)

How about everytime I buy a cellphone, a bikini model presents it to me fully activated and the stupid phone that will fall apart within a year includes a wall charger, car charger, and some f***ing headphones as well you cheap bastards!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:11 5

2. wendygarett (unregistered)

I had 4 charger (international) on my house already... Symbian, blackberry, and android... I can choose to sacrifice tho...

Of course I pay to get what I want, but it's not a deal breaker as well

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:31 3

7. wendygarett (unregistered)

And also, I realize something that really bugging me out... Cheapstake? Really?? Even if the cheapstake company want your little extra $$$$, so what? If you have an eager and sincere to do so, even if McDonald want you to bring your own goodie bag just to save extra $$$ for the paper bag, you will sincerely sacrifice yourself to do so... So stop saying other cheapstake when you yourself being cheap with no sincere!!!!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:12 5

13. anshul0000 (unregistered)

welcome back!!!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 12:13 7

21. DanMarino13 (Posts: 63; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)

i couldn't even comprehend what you were trying to say...

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:44 7

25. NexusKoolaid (Posts: 493; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)

Either Google Translate has failed you miserably, or your typing has been influenced by one of your past McDonald's goodie bags.

posted on 25 Jan 2013, 19:56

38. metalpoet (unregistered)

wendygarrett: What educational institution did you go to? Because they failed you my friend, I can't understand a single thing you have put on here because you cannot spell or formulate an understandable sentence.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:11 10

3. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 May 2012)

Yeah, I might have a good number of chargers here, but their outputs are different.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:21 9

4. simplyj (Posts: 406; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)

I'm not going to complain if my next phone doesn't have a charger, it's not a big deal

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:23 5

5. MattGioff (Posts: 11; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)

Its always nice to have a few spare chargers to keep at work or in the living room, but if smartphones lasted longer I wouldn't be as concerned about using an old charger from a previous phone. Therefore I'd prefer new phones still come with a charger. Even though my galaxy s 3 has good battery life, towards the end of the work day I am usually pretty close to it being completely dead. If I want to use my S3 past 8:00 pm it has to be charged.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:31 8

6. freebee269 (Posts: 539; Member since: 10 Aug 2012)

i wish there was a regular old yes answer instead of this round about way of saying yes that doesnt even really say yes.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:37 8

8. belovedson (Posts: 1052; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)

Lower the costs on phone then yes it make sense. I I'm sick of hearing green when I noticed companies and people who supposedly are green really don't show it half the time

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:40

9. GALAXY-STORM (Posts: 328; Member since: 13 Oct 2012)

I think I need the charger. Btw nokia have given up the symbian products with p808 being the last one.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 09:44 1

10. MattGioff (Posts: 11; Member since: 26 Nov 2012)

Maybe offering a free charger at the point of sale would be a good stepping stone so that the people who want a charger can have one and the people who don't need one can pass on it. While smartphones are currently pretty popular, not everyone has one and I don't believe someone who doesn't have a charger should be forced to buy one separately when they purchase a new phone. I think that if you buy a piece of electronic equipment it should come with everything you need to get it to run its basic tasks and a power cord/charger for something that doesn't use disposable batteries should be included when you purchase it at no additional fee or hassle.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:06

11. wumberpeb (Posts: 453; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)

Most phones, thankfully, use the same chargers based on the USB spec. As USB 3.0 trickles to smartphones, the charging port should remain the same size but we can all use the same cables (hopefully). It won't have an effect on the price of your subsidized device (here in the US at least), but we've all got chargers at home. I say it's a great idea, keep them out of landfills. Should new cables come along, they better put them back in...

However, new devices with much larger batteries come with higher output wall plugs. Even previous generation smartphones from last year came with 700 mA-1 Amp wall plugs, whereas devices like the Note 2 come with 2 Amp plugs. There's nothing wrong with using old plugs, but it probably won't charge your new $600 device as fast. That's the only pitfall, and it's not much of an issue anyways.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:11 1

12. PAPINYC (banned) (Posts: 2315; Member since: 30 Jul 2011)

Meh... I voted them cheapskates but, in all honesty, the first iPhone I ever bought ages ago (when they were "in"), a 3G, I bought used without a wall plug; it did, however, come with that now famously obsolete white sync cable (since the pin connector has since changed) and the guy (from Craigslist) who I bought the iPhone from [ASSURED] me that I could charge the phone through iTunes. I learned long thereafter that it was not iTunes charging my iPhone but, in fact, it was my desktop; no wonder I kept getting those annoying iTunes "Error" messages. In the end, I guess I 'kinda figured it out', so I guess I should change my vote; is it too late?

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:20

15. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)

You'd be surprised the amount of iphones chargers that don't work out of the box,or stop working within a few weeks. The phones usually display "this is not a supported accessory" message

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:17

14. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)

I have about 5 micro usb chargers lying about from the days of my origonal htc desire and all other phones inbetween,plus my girlfriends. Dont need another charger.

I bet apple could jump the gun on this and not include the "lightning" charger in the box,many ifans would easily buy it as a neccessary accessory without fail.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:46 1

16. OpTiMuS_BlAcK (Posts: 418; Member since: 04 May 2012)

....bring back the back panel solar chargers!!

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 10:53

17. CorianU (Posts: 27; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)

Whatever happened to those things? Those were cool

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 11:44 3

18. velfarreclubber (Posts: 8; Member since: 30 Jul 2012)

I can make do without the USB home charger, just provide me with the data cable.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 11:58

20. Charlie_boy (Posts: 71; Member since: 04 Jan 2013)

totally agree! there a pc in the office.. then a laptop (ang even TVs) at home that have USB ports..
USB Cable is all you need. And you can but it virtually anywhere cheap.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 12:15

23. corporateJP (Posts: 2458; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)

That takes longer to charge, though. I'm not good with that.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 12:45 1

24. Charlie_boy (Posts: 71; Member since: 04 Jan 2013)

agree with that too..
As long as the price drop is right, and i have an enough existing/good charger back home.. I'll take the one without the charger.

I think any sensible person with this situation would not pass up the offer.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 11:57 4

19. crysiswarmonger (Posts: 80; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)

By the time I am buying a new phone, my old cable and charge are usually needing to be replaced also. I would like the charger to be matched for my phone so that I can use phone with power demanding apps or features and it still can charge the battery.

I have a car charger that does not put out enough juice to charge phone while using navigation.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 12:14 4

22. corporateJP (Posts: 2458; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)

What alot of people don't realize is that the amps in a charger seem to be different everytime you get a new phone. My old LG charger takes a better part of two to two-and-a-half hours to fully charge my GS3, while the charger that came with it does it in an hour or so for full battery. Let's not forget that some companies (*cough*...Motorola..."unauthorized charger"...*cough*) phones won't even let you plug another companies charger into it.

I'm better off with the idea of recycling my old ones and getting the proper one in the box, thank you.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:51 2

26. dmckay12 (Posts: 243; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)

I would buy the phone without it if it was good enough and there was no other choice, but I would find the lack of a charger to be stupid.

posted on 24 Jan 2013, 13:52

27. bfuller2006 (Posts: 72; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)

I wouldnt really care if its micro usb because i have plenty of those type of charges...

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