Windows 8.1 begins its rollout tomorrow, the Start Button returns, the Start Menu does not
posted by Maxwell R. / Oct 17, 2013, 12:53 AM
Well the good news is that Windows 8.1 is here. Those currently using Windows 8 will get a complimentary upgrade to 8.1. Those that have resisted the move from Windows 7 or Vista (or even XP) can get Windows 8.1 for $120.
For all its warts, Microsoft has polished things up quite a bit. The Start Button has returned to Windows 8.1, but the Start Menu has not. That is not the end of the world because developers have created all sorts of work-arounds for those that must have their menu. The Start Button takes you to the “Start Screen” as it exists in Windows 8, but you can do more with the tiles and the applications are easier to access.
The interface is still touch centric, which may put some desktop users off a bit, but now at least you can bypass the Start Screen and boot straight to the desktop if you choose. The desktop background can be incorporated as the background for the Start Screen, so the transition between desktop and tiles will be less dramatic.
Two big changes you will notice start with the search feature, which integrates search across your computer along with online content. The other big change is better and tighter integration with SkyDrive (except in the UK where eventually it will be renamed), making it easier to store and access information in the cloud.
Below we included just a brief overview of the subtle and not so subtle changes on the way. Will these changes prompt you to update your PC or tablet?
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I've been using 8.1 since the MSDN release (also updated to the GA rollup) but the user experience hasn't changed much. The most convient features are, however, a direct booting to the desktop and the ability to customize the start screen better. The modern (Metro) apps, however, are still crap.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 1:12 AM 9
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Too little too late I'm afraid. Google (even Apple) has begun to eat into your market share.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 1:13 AM 3
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Oh really❔PC's count for over 90% of desktop/laptop sales, and all new PC's are loaded with W8x.. What's going to be the outcome of that in a few years? And once people get used to W8, which it's inevitable that they will, they are going to think twice about buying a toy tablet when they find out they can take their entire computing experience with them... Tablets are still young, and the role of a tablet has yet to be defined... So quit fooling yourself, and being naive to the fact that that 90%+ market share isn't going anywhere.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 1:41 AM 17
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Sorry, looking to leave windows because of Windows 8. It used to be that you could still get copies of the previous OS, but not here. So basically MS gave us an ultimatum, use Windows 8 or leave, and that's what I'm going to do. On a side note, why give us a start button but not the start menu. That's like giving someone keys to a car and they're the wrong keys. But don't worry, you can pay extra to some outside source to get a fix that MS should have done in the first place. Nope, time to sell my Win8 unit and look at their competition.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 9:57 AM 2
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Unless W9 is more like W7, I'm leaving as well. A start button without the start menu is as insulting as the W7 desktop mode without any way of really using it properly. It's almost like MS is playing with us in those regards. Some of the things shown in the video are really nice features but the entire UI isn't the way I want to use my computer. And yes, I'm in the group put off by it being touch screen based. I can accept that on a tablet but not on a PC. I just purchased a new computer a couple of months ago so I still have a handful of years before needing a new one. Hopefully by then MS has finally realized there's more of us old time users who prefer the old UI compared to the new users. Otherwise, I'll be checking out Ubuntu.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 11:40 AM 0
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If you research you will find that the main entry of virus was through start. You don't need a start menu to control software. Holding the windows key and the C key takes you to the menu that used to be like start. Holding the windows kea alone take you to the programs and app screen Windows 8 is way better than windows 7 and if you have a touch screen it gets even easier to use. Windows will regain, and keep its market lead because right now it has way more to offer than any other platform at the moment. When it is unified with Windows Phone next year it will start to out shine the competition for sure! You can still buy Windows 7 online , but to me that would be foolish, but to each his own!
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 1:35 PM 0
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Hmm, getting better. MS didn't make the right decision going with the Metro UI, And they can't even get rid of it any time sooner than 7 to 8 years. It's the golden chance for Google to hit with Android for PC, Then nothing can prevent my all time favourite software giant from going down. Feeling really bad ! :'(
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 1:15 AM 4
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Keep dreaming... Pipe dreams..
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 1:43 AM 13
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oh,I think microsoft is doing well in design... not in features... c`mon Microsoft we want something BIG!!!!!!!
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 1:23 AM 2
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I will pick windows any day any time.i simple love w8,those who find it difficult are just people who don't like change. W8 or w8.1 is the future. ...get used to it. The smoothest OS on the planet. Rocking it on my Dell Xps touch screen pc.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 1:50 AM 6
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I have been using Linux constantly since 2011. Now i don't feel comfortable going back to Windows. I use Windows only for Microsoft Office, Adobe Photoshop, Xilisoft Video Converter and some apps that are Windows exclusives. However with time I notice Linux is getting some love from developers, it still has a long way to go but is improving. SteamOS is going to encourage that transition more and more. So many developers praise Valve for this move and now let's hope it is successful. Windows 8 to be honest does not have the same Windows Experience like you had with Windows XP or 7 although it is an improvement.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 2:30 AM 4
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Microsoft is always doing the wrong things. They are supplying tablet OS for PC in 2013 and in 2001 they supplied desktop software for tablets. Microsoft wake up and learn from your mistakes. WITHOUT START BUTTON windows is a fail. If google launches Chrome / Android like desktop OS it would be a huge hit and would replace windows forever
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 3:23 AM 0
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No need for Android on desktop, wake up guys... you already have linux mint, Ubuntu and the hundreds of distro's out there, with all the apps and utilities you will ever need and WITHOUT AD's and google counting how many times you go pee... All you guys' posting out here about Android coming on desktop should get a life not kiss Google's arse for everything.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 4:53 AM 1
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Indeed...I am using linux mint 14 as my daily use. But I can't buy a new PC (laptop) with good spec with linux on it. I am also afraid to buy a non branded PC due to driver issue. At present only option is to use dual boot windows pc. I am still using the 7 year old pc with good performance. If any manufacturer releases PC with linux on, would be a great hit. It may not be a huge hit immediately, but it will help people to migrate to linux. One disadvantage with linux is, most of the tools and utilities needs to be installed /accessed using comand prompt. This may be the issue for new comers or an average person. If linux removes this drawback, then it would be great choice of OS for all and that's what android did. So make Android as desktop PC, people will automatically migrate to linux.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 5:05 AM 1
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a Great deal of people feel that Microsoft should have separated the Desktop and the Modern UI AKA Metro start screen from Windows 8.1 and just have the Modern UI AKA Metro start screen on Tablets, All in one touch screen desktops, and Laptop/notebooks that have a touch screen. Well that did not happen but there is hope that it will happen in Windows 9 that I think may come out in 2015. Ii I became the new CEO of Microsoft the first thing I would do is call the Windows operating system development team in and tell them to create a Desktop mouse and keyboard version for Windows 9 as well as an advanced version of what is known as Windows 8.1 for touch screen devices like Tablets. All in one desktops that have touch screen. And any Laptop/notebooks that have a touch screen. this would give Microsoft OEM's and Customers a better selection of devices to choose from. Old-timers would buy the windows 9 desktop Mouse and keyboard version and brave souls like me would stick with the hybrid Windows 9 operating system that would resemble Windows 8.1 to use some of the good Apps that are in the Windows store and have the best of both worlds. If Ballmer had made sure there was a screw of Windows 8 that was only for the desktop/Laptop mouse and keyboard computers that had no Modern UI AKA Metro start screen touch interface at all Windows 8 would have been a success because it would had something for everybody.
posted on Oct 17, 2013, 3:45 AM 1
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