The never-released WinsorNot webOS phone finally comes to light

The never-released WinsorNot webOS phone finally comes to light
HP purchased webOS with the intention of bringing it back from the ashes of Palm, but that never really worked out. HP only released a few devices running webOS, the most popular of which was the Touchpad tablet, and the Touchpad only got popular when the price dropped to $99 and it was purchased in bulk by Android hackers. But, it seems that HP did have plans for another webOS phone after the Pre 3 and the Veer. It was codenamed WinsorNot and images of the never-released phone have finally come out.

The WinsorNot was a device named after a previously cancelled device which was codenamed Winsor (clever, eh?) and was designed to be released in late 2011, after the Pre 3 came out. The WinsorNot was very similar to the Pre 3, with the same internals and a similar slider design, but with a larger 4" display and webOS 3.x. The trouble was that webOS 3.x wasn't exactly optimized for phones, and was more of a shrunk down version of the tablet OS. HP didn't have the resources to develop everything in the pipeline (Pre 3, Veer, Touchpad, and Touchpad Go) so the WinsorNot was scrapped. 

Adding to the troubles for the WinsorNot is that if HP had decided to go forward with the device, it likely would have slipped to 2012, a time when AT&T wanted to focus on LTE, which the WinsorNot couldn't handle. So, it disappeared into the smartphone sunset. For a much much more in-depth version of the story, hit the source (if you tend towards tl:dr, don't bother.)



3. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

It's always sad to see good devices that never saw the light of day. At least WebOS lives on in Android 4.x and Blackberry 10.

4. Reluctant_Human

Posts: 913; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

I agree, this could have been a phenomenal phone. it was a very under rated OS with so much potential.

5. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

I don't know about underrated. Pretty much everyone who actually played with WebOS loved it. It was just marketed like s**t and never put on anything but underwhelming hardware. I mean, between this and the Veer, the Veer is what HP chose to go with?

6. Reluctant_Human

Posts: 913; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

I completely agree. I think it was under rated because the regular phone user barely even knew it existed. I loved my Pre3 but that phone should have and could have been marketed towards women since you need smaller hands to work properly and had a fashionable design. No one knew what the hell HP was doing (especially not their own CEO). They discontinue WebOS then decide as a hardware company that they're getting out of the hardware business. A retarded donkey could have run that company better.

8. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

Sad to say that Palm didn't even have enough foresight on WebOS. They were stuck on the "smaller is better" trend from before touchscreen phones. Marketing is everything in business, especially in the tech world. Every hardware manufacturer out there sells phones which kick the s**t out of the iPhone in just about every regard, yet because Apple has great marketing and an army of loyal asswipes behind it, Samsung (which also does great with marketing) is the only company that comes close to Apple's individual success.

9. Reluctant_Human

Posts: 913; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

Couldn't have said it better myself.

13. downphoenix

Posts: 3165; Member since: Jun 19, 2010

so true. Everybody at this time wanted phones that had bigger screens, and HP/Palm bragged about having the smallest smartphone. Average consumer wanted nothing to do with that.

7. TheMan

Posts: 494; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

More than any Samsung phone, this one looks like a design that Apple would sue for.

10. mrraider602

Posts: 36; Member since: Mar 27, 2013

I had an original palm pre for 2 and a half years.. I homebrewed (rooted) it and loved it! WebOs had a great community behind it, very die hard! Android has a ton of great features but as an overall operating system, WebOs was the best, IMO. I think if HP would have gone in a different direction design wise from the pre and had better marketing, it could have survived and competed.

11. MC1123

Posts: 1256; Member since: Nov 12, 2012

i pity webOS!! i hope that open webOS could save it!! LG please make open webOS phone not firefox since you buy webOS!

12. palmguy

Posts: 986; Member since: Mar 22, 2011

Even with no support or apps, I'll kill for this phone. I am still rocking a Pre minus.

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