TSMC and ARM working on 7nm process for iPhone 8's A12 chipset?
posted by Alan F. / Mar 16, 2016, 11:49 AM
According to a possible timetable, 7nm FinFET chips will start early production next year. It might take some time for the chip to be mass produced in the quantities needed to fulfill a large order placed by Apple.
Currently, Apple employs the A9 SoC in the Apple iPhone 6s and Apple iPhone 6s Plus. The A9 is built by both Samsung and TSMC. Sammy's version uses the 14nm process compared to the 16nm process used on TSMC's A9. The size of the process node is important since smaller transistors on a chip make the component more power efficient. The FinFET part of the equation helps reduce the leakage of current that takes place with smaller chips.
Before we get to 7nm, 10nm is next. Most likely, we won't see chips made using that process inside the iPhone until the A11 chipset is produced for 2017's Apple iPhone 7s and Apple iPhone 7s Plus. Last month, Samsung displayed the world's first 10nm FinFET chip at the International Solid-State Circuits Conference (ISSCC).
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That's only between ARM and TSMC, not Apple. Even your source doesn't mention it like you presented here. http://www.tsmc.com/tsmcdotcom
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posted on Mar 16, 2016, 12:16 PM 9
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Article title wildly misleading. The sources don't mention Apple or even something like "an unspecified customer." It is just an agreement between ARM and TSMC to jointly work on the 7nm process node which will be available to all of TSMC's customers, which would include Apple, Qualcomm, Mediatek, Rockchip, etc. Plus it needs to be born in mind that Apple doesn't just purchase off-the-shelf processors but rather licenses ARM IP to develop their own custom processors which are then fabbed by a foundry, usually either TSMC or Samsung or both.
posted on Mar 16, 2016, 1:42 PM 5
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Expect the process node to be delayed till 2019. 7nm is gonna take forever.
posted on Mar 16, 2016, 12:55 PM 1
Source says: "It churns out chips for the likes of Nvidia, AMD, Qualcomm, Apple, Marvell, and Broadcom." Title says: "TSMC-and-ARM-working-on-7nm-process-for-iPhone-8s-A12-chipset" PhoneArena always trying to squeeze an Apple article out of everything.
posted on Mar 16, 2016, 1:55 PM 9
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You guys sound like some little b****es man! All this back and forth, and for what! Not one person that's a n this thread is gonna use this stuff to influence their buying decision, and who cares about side by side comparisons in real life situations. Just wow!!!
posted on Mar 16, 2016, 4:46 PM 0
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