T-Mobile to launch "Very Fast Mobile Web" on March 14th

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T-Mobile to launch
Refusing to call its HSPA+ network 4G as some had speculated, T-Mobile has decided to call the upgraded network "Very Fast Mobile Web" which should launch on March 14th. Claiming that the HSPA+ network it is using will be like having "home broadband speeds on the go", the new pipelines will top out around 21Mbps. The first device that T-Mobile will release that supports the faster speed is the webConnect Rocket which, by no coincidence, is also set for a March 14th launch. It will be sold only in those markets where HSPA+ will be running, such as Dallas, Miami, L.A., Chicago and possibly Philadelphia which is home to the current tests on the service. Pricing is not yet known.

By year's end, the carrier should have an HSPA+ handset released. Huawei recently showed off the first HSPA+ Android handset in the world, model U8800, which features Android 2.1,a 3.8 inch display and supports downlink speeds of up to 14 Mbps. While nothing has even been hinted at, T-Mobile does offer a non-Android Huawei device. You do the math. The manufacturer is looking to sell Android phones in the U.S. and if they happen to support T-Mobiles "Very Fast Mobile Web", no one will be very, very upset.

source: TmoNews via AndroidandMe



1. Schmao

Posts: 365; Member since: Jul 05, 2009

Not bad t-mobile, not bad...

22. herbiederb

Posts: 275; Member since: Jan 28, 2010

Get the HSPA+ chip in the HD2! Hopefully its already in there waiting to be activated.

28. omarc26

Posts: 360; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

well if t-mobile network can do 21 mbps isnt that faster than sprint 4G ? and verizon LTE? cause from what i heard verizon 4G is only going to get 12mbps the most... so yea why are verizon and sprint calling their new network 4G? if t-mobile's 3G network is going to be twice as fast???

38. JeffdaBeat unregistered

The theoretical speed of their HSPA+ is 21mbps. The theoretical speed of WiMAX is 50mbps. The theoretical speed of LTE is supposedly 100mbps.

45. eddptty2003

Posts: 11; Member since: Mar 06, 2010

true LTE is set to cap at 100 MPS 3g cant get anywhere near that and u know that no matter what company your on ther will never runn at full potential to consumers. so just cause verizon is setting there speed at 12 MPS thats not to say that they cant set that mark higher. The speed is always determined by the network settings that verizon decides to place.

2. rtimi26

Posts: 42; Member since: Mar 16, 2009

tell me about it. If the remaining carriers are not careful they will loose some market share.

3. majicc07

Posts: 28; Member since: May 07, 2009

Not to start a bashing session but when you have such a small 3G footprint which T Mobile does and being that they haven't even confirmed their path to 4G yet (the only major carrier in the US to have not selected a 4G path) its only logical and of course a much quicker process to go to the next level. I commend them on what they are doing but I dont see them being around in the near future. The gap between them and the number 3 carrier (Sprint) is way too large of a gap for them to close on just adding customers by signing up walk in customers. Im nt sure on who they could possible merge with being at&t would be the most logical choice but Im thinking the FCC would not allow that to happen. Past speculations of Sprint was floating around for awhile but being that they lost their ass when they tried taking over and converting a different technology ( Nextel) I would think they would be a little gun shy. There is of course foreign carriers but again closing that gap by trying to add walk in and chrun from other carriers would take way too long and time they do not have. Any other thoughts and ideas out there? Once again this post is not a dig at T Mobile just an observation and fact...

5. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

majic... Theres no point in ATT/Tmobile to merge. It would actually hurt tmobiles network. ATT has the worst built network of the big 4 at this point. Tmobiles 3g footprint isnt very far off of ATTs (if not better in many areas). That said.. dont get confused with the 3g/4g terminoligy.. that only applies to the tech involved, not the speed. In real world tests, the Tmobile HSPA+ network runs faster than Sprints Wimax service. The fact that Tmobile does not flaunt this fact annoys me. Like sprint, Tmobile shoots themselves in the foot.. which is the only reason they are not higher up the food chain. Sprint has the worst service and devices (for the most part). Tmobile has a better network than ATT and some of the coolest devices. They also have by far the least effective and least potent advertising. Everyone knows Dan Hesse, "Can you hear me now" guy, and Luke Wilson and the iphone... who can name Tmobiles advertising campain? Things will get interesting this year, as Tmobile is set to launch the new network in quite a few top markets this year, Verizon gets LTE revved up, and ATT loses its iphone exclusivity. Expect alot of people to jump ship from ATT once they can get the iphone on the superior network (VZW) or at half the monthly cost (Tmo). Sprint might have been "first to 4g" but they sure are sitting in neutral instead of building their network out.

12. artz1986

Posts: 453; Member since: Mar 11, 2009

I just wanted to point out, if at&t has the worst built network, I don't think they would still be standing w/ the amount of data being used on their network period.

16. thomasesquivel

Posts: 1; Member since: Mar 05, 2010

I second that.

19. dmberta

Posts: 25; Member since: Dec 30, 2009

Tmo doesn't offer 3g in the area I live in. I wishnthe would focus on 3g outside of the largest cell markets. ps: I'm in northwest arkansas

20. godsarmylds

Posts: 36; Member since: Mar 05, 2010

Hey Remixfa, im impressed by how intell you have. The thing is i can't really find any whole. I actually work for verizon now. And i used to work for t-mobile and my buddy works for att. Her is the thing. If you guys do get it yet Sprint is bleeding out. They are losing more and more customers. In the millions! There is a reason why there plans are so cheap. They need to continue to be cheaper than the others so they can stay in the game. And who ever said sprint would by t-mobile is an idiot if anything t-mobile would by sprint. Now Spirints 4 g isn't even true 4g so don't get to excited about that. Now they 4g t-mobile is getting may have some great potential. Here is the thing t-mobile realized that they missed the boat on 3g. and they reakized that data is the wave of the future. So they have been investing millions to get 3g out to the main parts of the country so that they don't lose customers. But then they are going to work the increase coverage of their four. I can easily see t-mobile moving up to the carrier number 2 spot and att dropping to number 3, within the next 2 years. Att. has been dragging their feet the past three years because of them having the iphone. They didn't have anything to worry about. They just say NEW iPHONE and people came running into their stores. Now that they are losing the iphone they are freaking out. junping onto the android band wagon(which in my oppinion is better and has greater potential than the iphone). Now the biggest complaint with iphone users and the rest of att's customers is coverage. They drop calls, they don't have 3g coverage. When working at both verizon and t-mobile the biggest thing you ever hear is, "as soon as you get the iphone i'll be coming back to you." What do you think the att customers are saying " as soon as you get the android i'm coming back to you" HAHA know they aren't saying that. So I can easily see that att, is going to be losing a lot of customers in the next two years. Especially since they got morons running the show over there. Look at there track record. One their compition commercials against verizon SUCK, verizon just makes a mock of att and att's commercials leaving you thinking "and your better why....?" Second they don't have the balls or knowledge to come up with anything first. Friends and family that verizon did, att didnt do it until verizon released it. (yes t-mobile had it first but were dumb enough to get rid of it.) another att didn't release the first $100 unlimited plan until verizon did. Att didnt release the new 69.99 unlimited plan until verizon did. Att didn't get the android phone until verizon did.Seriously att management are idiont. Man they should paying me 200,000$ a year and ill do the same thing. I'll sit back play call of duty modern warfare 2 all day and have another tv on and as soon as verizon has a new commercial where they are going to roll out a new promotion ex. $25 data plans. I'll quickly call up my guy tell him "hey our data plans are now $25". BOOM hang up and start playing my Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2. Seriously, think out of the box att. Or at least think! Anyways. ATT needs change before they have to sell out to T-mobile.

23. herbiederb

Posts: 275; Member since: Jan 28, 2010

T-mobile is Catherine Zeta Jones

26. herbiederb

Posts: 275; Member since: Jan 28, 2010

+100 I coulnt have said it better myself. Love the Call of Duty part... (It would be SF4 for me)

29. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

uhh.. thanks for the compliment. I normally dont say anything about spelling and punctuation because this is just online blurbs.. but duuuuude.. LOL Herbie, Catherine was soo 5 years ago :) Yea, she came back for a short underfunded stint last year for that "mobile makeover" crap, but that campaign wasnt effective. The last time they had a great campaign was CZJ, circa 2004ish. Point is, they were exited when the mytouch sold 20k units its first week with the help of all those over the hill celebrities they use.. The droid sold like 250-500k somewhere. Anyone remember the original mytouch commercials? Who remembers the droid commercials? Bet most peeps remember the droid commercials and only a few know of the mytouch commercials.

30. shimmyx20

Posts: 280; Member since: Mar 03, 2009

"Tmobiles 3g footprint isnt very far off of ATTs (if not better in many areas). " I had TMobile, and T-Mobile's coverage and in-building signal penetration was no good. There were many areas where I was supposed to have full coverage, and yet I would be standing outside with no signal. And this was with multiple phones and SIMs. I have a couple friends who drive semis cross country, and they had TMobile as well, but had to switch because they would have no coverage throughout a lot of their routes. Both they and I switched to AT&T, and everything is A-OK now, minimal dropped calls, speedy data, and good signal Granted, everyone's mileage will vary, but that was my experience in the Champaign/Mahomet/Savoy area in IL, St Louis, and the southwest suburbs of Chicago.

34. herbiederb

Posts: 275; Member since: Jan 28, 2010

Droid commercials are addictive... DROOOOOOID! T-Mo needs someone a lot younger. The one that comes to mind especially with the TF and TF2 tie-in for HD2 is MEGAN FOX. T-Mo.. make it happen!.. I got yo back with the subs.

36. theman10

Posts: 93; Member since: May 16, 2009

Godsarmylds, cool name, but not good information. Sprint's 4G is 10 times faster than normal 3G carried by Sprint, Verizon, At&t and T-Mobile. And you are dumb saying that about Sprint buying T-Mobile, no one said that it was the other way around. T-Mobile or Deutsche Telecomm based out of Germany was looking into purchasing Sprint. Get your facts right before you post a freaking novel on here.

48. godsarmylds

Posts: 36; Member since: Mar 05, 2010

Theman10, that's what i was saying. I was disagreeing with who ever said that sprint would buy t-mobile. And i was stating if anything t-mobile would buy sprint. and Remix haha i know my spelling was horrible. I pulled an all nighter and was up a total of 50 hours when i wrote that. I was nearly out of it. About time when i reread what i wrote it was already to late. But i figure people would get the jist.

4. deschats

Posts: 193; Member since: Jun 09, 2009

i think that when tmobile leaked their "project black", it wasnt just an overhall of their speeds etc.. i think they had a secret deal with all the phone carriers to get the best releases before most of the carriers (discluding verizon, with all their new phones) and got all these ba phones.

7. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

project black was just the codename for the new pricing system before launch. Every time they have a major launch its "black this, black that". Heck, right now we have a "black phone".. Its just the HD2.

6. numberonenygfan

Posts: 211; Member since: Oct 19, 2009

im going to dig at t mobile. first off they suck. they are only top three in customer service becauase the people that have them vote them in. and they vote them in because they give everything away if i switched to them right now theyd give me an unlimited plan for next to nothing and if i really wanted to get a nexus for free im sure theyd find a way to make it happen. t mobile blows, all their customers are either ghetto or broke. this very fast network is a joke. they need to merge very fast because when vzw launches lte, tmob and sprint wont even be in this conversation. my friend has a sidekick, and you want to know why i know he still has it? BECAUSE I CAN NEVER GET AHOLD OF HIM! TMOBILE BLOWS

8. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

umm.. only customers vote for customer service, so yea, the people that have them, vote for them. ATT and Sprint cant say the same thing..LOL. And every company will give alot of stuff away if you talk to them the right way. I had a friend who has VZW who had a bad battery and 6 months left till upgrade. By the time we were done talking to them, he got a Droid for 50 bux, a free month service, and 15% off his bill. Its all in how you work the system. The only company that wont be in the conversation will be ATT. Everyone else is going to the next generation. ATT is about 3 years behind VZW on LTE roll out. Speedwise, it will be VZW, Tmo, Sprint........... ATT, as of the end of 2010.

10. mdw92581

Posts: 131; Member since: Feb 25, 2010

Way to hate on a Carrier without good reason. Oh and your friend must be "ghetto or broke" if they still use a sidekick.

13. Legacystar

Posts: 131; Member since: Dec 31, 2009

Didn't know what tax bracket you were in made a difference on how you liked your cell service. What an asshat

9. Homotechual

Posts: 65; Member since: Oct 27, 2009

numberonenygfan you are a IDIOT. Your comment doesn't even deserve a response but I just wanted to throw that out there. PLEASE do us a favor and do not POST anymore. magicc T-mobile has not annouced 4G yet because they don't need to. Unlike Verizon and Sprint who NEED to switch to 4G, T-Mobile is playing the 4G game smart by upgrading existing hardware and it's already been proven to be faster then Wimax! Their 3G footprint is about the same size as AT&T, plus with all the new devices they are getting this year. I see them being around for a very long time, of the 4 carriers it's going to be T-Mobile and Verizon in the end. AT&T will eventually be killed by Verizon, and Sprint killed themselves a long time ago. Also don't forget they can go faster then 21+ they just won't turn it on right away.

15. artz1986

Posts: 453; Member since: Mar 11, 2009

The only carrier I see w/ a chance of disappearing is Sprint. Tmo, Vzw, and at&t have seen growth in subs. This whole notion that at&t is going anywhere is purely fanboy speak, because if that were to happen, you would already see signs. Plus at&t has a shit load of capital, even if they are greedy, they have the money to sustain themselves for many years to come. Sprint doesn't need to switch to 4G because they already have 4G service and they're still losing customers, Sprint needs to focus on something else, I don't know what it is, and I doubt they know what it is. Vzw can take their time w/ LTE because they have a banging 3G network in place right now, the only reason I can see them rushing is to keep up w/ global standards, but again, they've been around for how many years now, and the global standard has been GSM, yet Vzw is still banking.

17. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

VZW wants to have about 100 million people covered by LTE by the end of this year. Would be awesome if it happens. Thats roughly a 1/3-1/4 of the population areas. Tmobile is shooting for a similar result with its HSPA+ network. Verizon's parent company Vodaphone helped create the LTE technology, thats why they are getting such a big jump on everyone for LTE in america. The reason.. and the only reason ATT is still in second place, is the iphone. They lose exclusivity this year, which is why I expect ATT to start bleeding a bit after that happens. The iphone while helping keep ATTs numbers up, also put the company on one knee when dealing with its network. ATT for a long time did not upgrade its network and it can barely keep up with the data now. Its like a boat with 100 leaky holes. While everyone else is upgrading, ATT is patching and catching up. ATT = only an idiot would pay VZW pricing for Tmo or less product. LOL. Tmo doesnt have the best network compared to VZW or sprint.. but at least they dont try to charge you for it like ATT does.. LOL

21. godsarmylds

Posts: 36; Member since: Mar 05, 2010

HAHA Good point Homo, Sprint killed themselves a long time ago. I hate when people try to talk Sprint up. Sprint SUCKS!!! And your right about verizon needing to change networks. They have been planning this change for atleast three years. It will giver verizon amzing speeds and better coverage, and the towers are actually going to be cheaper to build. The CDMA is just old technology. So it will be nice to see verizon drop it.

31. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

Right now the LTE is just data. they havent successfully been able to keep reliable and good sounding voice and data at the same time. The CDMA network isnt going anywhere for quite some time. Besides, older doesnt mean worse. CDMA has longer range and better building penetration than GSM. Thats why VZW and Sprint have the better networks over ATT and Tmobile. They both have their positives and negatives.

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