Sorry Lumia 520 owners, Windows 10 on ARM is not coming to existing Windows Phone devices

Sorry Lumia 520 owners, Windows 10 on ARM is not coming to existing Windows Phone devices
Later this year, Microsoft is expected to roll out Windows 10 on ARM. The idea, according to Microsoft's Joe Belfiore, is to give consumers the full Windows 10 experience on mobile devices that are powered by chips using the ARM architecture. The new devices would use Snapdragon chipsets and offer outstanding battery life. Not only is Belfiore really talking about tablets and laptops, he adds that this technology will not be compatible with existing Windows phones.

Having the full Windows 10 running a phone means that Microsoft would need to make significant changes to the platform's UI. A large reason for that is the huge difference in screen size between a desktop computer, a tablet and a smartphone. One area where Windows 10 on a Windows Phone would work is with Continuum. With the latter, a Windows Phone could be plugged into a desktop sized screen. But for the most part, Windows 10 on ARM is not really directed to handsets. As Belfiore said during a recent podcast, for phone-like experiences on ARM, Microsoft offers Windows 10 Mobile devices.

While there has been talk about Microsoft taking another shot at the smartphone market with the mythical Surface Phone, the last thing that Microsoft wants to do is throw good money after bad. Meanwhile, the money and the ideas are going to tablets. For example, Microsoft has been testing some features for a new slate. Last month, we told you about a new patent application filed by the company. The paperwork filed by Microsoft revealed that the company is working on a foldable design for a tablet.

source: WindowsInsider



1. juandante

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2. Bankz

Posts: 2531; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Hello Surface mobile!

3. Soundjudgment

Posts: 370; Member since: Oct 10, 2016

Both of those Luma owners are going to be very disappointed.

4. Bfrenz

Posts: 285; Member since: Aug 26, 2012

Who cares, I got Lumia 920 for my dad back then, he hated that and switched to iPhone after just two weeks.

5. tonyv13

Posts: 113; Member since: Jun 07, 2015

Who owns a 520 anyways of anything people would have own newer models not the 520

6. justrt

Posts: 446; Member since: Jul 10, 2014

How about sorry Lumia 950 owners, or HP Elite X3!

7. Pureviewuser1

Posts: 150; Member since: Mar 28, 2016

Im getting another lumia 1520 better than my s7 and my wifes 7 plus any day

8. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1354; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Well it looks like MS is officially out of the mobile (phone) space - Not that they have not been for years now but this officially drives the last nail into the coffin.

9. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

Lol, can't really feel bad for them W10M users. Microsoft themselves have NEVER taken Windows on Smartphones seriously, no extra-ordinary hardware nor software ever came from them. Even the Lumia 950s they released clearly showed 0 effort was put into making them stand out. And till today, their Smartphone UI has merely been blocks of crayon colors, even a kid could make that. Despite all the signs, some die-hard fans still stuck with the platform just to be used Microsoft's b!tch. That said, I think things will be turning around with the full Windows 10 on ARM + CShell + Fluent Design system. Those are indications of Microsoft finally taking Windows on Smartphones seriously. Now just waiting for the extraordinary hardware to take advantage of all of it. Then and only then will the Windows platform on Smartphones be worth my consideration.

11. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3123; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Microsoft introduced the flat "Material Design" language so that blows your insignificant software contribution argument. Android and iOS couldn't wait to jump on that bandwagon. Microsoft introduced the first iris scanners which are suddenly all the rage for innovation. So much for being a b!tch. Oh and by the way, I own a Galaxy S8+ so don't go thinking I'm a Microsoft fanboy. I just state the facts as a tech enthusiast.

12. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

1.) Material design ain't flat crayon blocks, there's layers to it, drop-down shadows, and a slight sense of dept. That's just coming to Windows on Smartphones with fluent design system, so, don't kid yourself into thinking that's the same as a merely flat crayon blocks that a kid could "design". 2.) IRIS scanner is merely a method of authentication. Maybe that's satisfactory enough for you to think a lot of effort was put into making the hardware, but I expect a lot more in serious Smartphone hardware. Just like their Surface line of devices offers (excluding the Surface Laptop). 3.) BTW, I own a Surface Pro 2 and it's great, but doesn't stop me from criticising Microsoft where I see them seriously lacking.

13. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3123; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

Layers, depth and shadow effects are essential to skeumorphism which is what Apple used to be. The crayon look you despise is the same flat, ubiquitous design being used which Microsoft introduced with the Zune. Yes, iris scanners are merely authentication devices but Samsung and Apple are going out of their way to make them seem like the cat's meow but it was the Lumia 950 which brought them to market first. There are no prizes for 2nd place in the tech world. In fact, neither Samsung or Apple have introduced any current "must-haves". Motorola introduced biometrics with the ES400 (a Windows Mobile device by the way), Palm introduced wireless charging with the Pre 2 and Touchstone as well as gesture-based UI (webOS), contact integration (Synergy), universal search (Just Type) and threaded messaging (legacy PalmOS). The only "first" between them is capacitive displays on the iPhone 2G.

15. Mariano3113

Posts: 1; Member since: Jul 20, 2017

When Microsoft owned the Enterprise and PDA/Smartphone (lol Pocket PC days) they were either lazy or scared. (They were getting hit with Anti-trust and the whole debundling of IE and Windows Media Player) I have an issue with the Article stating screen size being an issue. •I don't see why a Mobile Scaling(Like Magnification) cannot be used for PC Windows 10 on a Mobile phone Mobile display resolutions of 1920x1080 or 2560x1440 should be more than to suffice Resolution wise. (Still new laptops with 1366x768) Wondering if the Hybrid Resistive/Capacitive Screens would be better suited for Windows 10 PC on 5inch screen.(Would allow for Phone apps and onscreen keyboard/navigation to work being finger friendly. Then switch to Desktop mode and allow pinpoint selection with Resistive stylus (Was way easier to check boxes and make Registry edits on Windows Mobile with a Stylus than trying to use a finger. HD2 was a pain using older Stylus friendly Apps) I think if they implement Windows 10 on Arm having a Phone mode (Like when early Windows 8 devices had Tablet Mode with limited app choice and lower consumption) then they would work well to recapture Smartphone marketshare. The big hurdle is getting full x86 support on Arm which, then should open the door to a Phone mode. If Phone mode was the Tile Start menu with Full desktop being a Toggle, that would also allow a much better stand-by time. Letting low power Phone/Messaging mode always be active and when full Desktop mode or Apps are needed that can be toggled up. (Continum allowing better scaling for Full desktop mode...heck if Windows on ARM supports using EGPU through USB C it would be an actual Gaming Solution) Really hoping Windows on ARM is successful stepping stone for a true Windows Pocket PC- do everything device.

10. bonkz

Posts: 7; Member since: Jul 19, 2017

the iPhone 8 and Surface Mobile will be the most game-changing phones of all time.

14. UglyFrank

Posts: 2193; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

When I think of Microsoft I think of their Scroogled campaign and how they now do everything they criticized Google for.

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