Second public beta to iOS 9.2 released by Apple; iOS 9.1 breaks Touch ID
posted by Alan F. / Nov 04, 2015, 1:39 PM
This service allows you to stay in touch on numerous mobile devices using just one phone number. And it also allows you to use your Apple iPad to make calls over a Wi-Fi network. If you have installed the iOS 9.2 beta on your iPhone, you can enable Wi-Fi calling on the other iOS devices you own that are tied to your iCloud account. Click on Settings > Phone > Wi-Fi Calling > Add Wi-Fi Calling For Other Devices.
Meanwhile, some iPhone users who updated their handset to iOS 9.1 are complaining that the update has broken Touch ID. In some cases, the fingerprint sensor embedded in the home button fails to recognize the owner's fingerprint. For some users, Touch ID doesn't even realize when a finger is pressed down on the button. And the scary part is that neither a hard reset, or a factory reset, will fix the situation. Because Apple stopped signing iOS 9.0.2, users cannot drop back to the older iOS build. The only hope is that iOS 9.2 brings a fix.
An interesting chart released by Thinkybits shows that Apple has been decreasing the amount of time that iOS builds stay in beta. Is Apple rushing out these updates too quickly without putting them through enough testing? Consider that iOS 9.1 went through 5 beta builds in 33 days, about half the usual time for Apple. And iOS 9.2 has hit its second beta in half the time that iOS 9.1 did. Is it time for Apple to slow down and smell the coffee?
source: Thinkybits, Forbes, AppeInsider
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I never met those bugs, as well as in first iOS 8 versions, but seriously Apple? You have only around 10 devices to update and s**tload of money. Why don't you finally hire some good devs because after iOS6 every new version is IMO getting worse and worse. 7 was awesome though, but 8 was utter crap
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 1:43 PM 7
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I am gonna stay on 9.1 and wait for jailbreak.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 2:02 PM 4
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I'm still on 9.0.2 debating whether I should jailbreak my 6SP or not.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 2:50 PM 1
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Is it only me , but I found the fingerprint scanner on the home button BS, for unlocking big phones like my Note.(and this is almost the only implementation on iPhone. Right?) Every time you try to reach the home button with one hand use, you risk to drop the phone. On my Note I use the pattern to unlock It. Set the pattern to one hand mode, so it's easy , responsive and fast to unlock with one hand. I use fingerprint only to lock files, pictures documents and such (can you do it on iPhone?)
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 2:03 PM 0
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Maybe the can put one in the fron t and one in the back similar to nexus 6p that will be cool I mean when the phone is on table you can use the front scaner and when you take out from the pocket the back scaner that will be nice ;)
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 3:06 PM 0
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I never risk dropping the phone when unlocking it and I hold my phone (Note 5 now) with one hand. It's just you!
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 3:35 PM 1
I hate using a phone without FP sensors - I hate unlocking the phones at all - I was spoiled with 5s FP and now 6s FP is so quick - I haven't seen the lock screen for days. I've never dropped my phone while unlocking it while holding it with same hand. Usually the phone unlocked as I pull it out of the pocket (kind of a muscle memory thing). Maybe it's the position of the home button or the fact that I don't need swiping like it is on older Samsung devices. I don't want to say it's just you TSMan, but I haven't heard complaints like yours from anyone using FP sensors.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 3:45 PM 1
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I don't think unlocking it increases chances of dropping it. Dropping the phone usually happens when you're not using it but in transition to either use it or put it away. My Z5 compact it pretty much always unlocked because as I pull the phone out, I can usually unlock it out of habit by pressing the power button on the way. Still, I've been spoiled by the Moto 360 keeping my phone unlocked for a while now so FP sensor is a meh to me.
posted on Nov 05, 2015, 1:16 AM 1
I have to keep my phone securely locked at all times - if I'm out, can't have someone swipe my phone (my business is on it), if I'm at home, can't have kids getting into it (same reason - my business is in it) The difference between reliable and unreliable FP is one you use 100 times a day and the other you don't due to frustration. 6s has been 100% reliable in contrast 5s 90% reliable (the other 10% is the early days when it just came out - it was fast but when my fingers got sweaty it didn't read well or took too long - was fixed with later update. I cannot use a phone without touch based FP. I wish I was in same situation as you FF - not have to lock my phone in the early days - it was so annoying to type in 4 digit passwords all these years or drawing patterns in hopes no one is looking over your shoulder. With 5 s it was faster to use Touch ID with locked screen than swipe to unlock with unlocked phone. With 6s - there's absolutely no contest - thing is super fast regardless how wet/ dirty/ sweaty your fingers are.
posted on Nov 05, 2015, 4:38 AM 1
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Apple messed up Touch ID, in my opinion. It's too fast, sensitive, and ruins the experience of lock screen notifications. I like the sensor more on my Note 5.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 3:01 PM 6
I agree it's way too fast. But I like it - the only problem I had was when activity going Apple Pay - for which I learned to be extra fast double clicking - so not an issue anymore. Maybe Apple could give a software delay option.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 3:49 PM 0
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6p is faster without the problems listed,, I got it before you ask, it's also better on the back on a bigger phone, it's one of the big thing that better over my edge plus 1:speakers 2:finger scanner 3:ram manager, but may be fixed in android 6.0, but it's also now way better on the new uk firmware update.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 5:40 PM 0
I'm glad you like your 6p... I prefer iOS - and super fast FP sensor is NOT a problem - just takes time to get used to. I wouldnt like it on the back of the phone, particularly because it will always require you to pick it up to access the phone...
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 6:33 PM 0
Nope it wont require you to pick up the phone, pincode still works ;) Or just use smartlock, don't need security at home or near your smartwatch. Since I don't like physical buttons on the front at all, the rear is a pretty good place. Although Sony's implementation on the side is pretty good alternative (if not better) as well.
posted on Nov 05, 2015, 3:48 AM 1
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"You can't update mediocrity but it's a good gesture to update the G4 to marshmallow." - Mxyzptlk, previous article. Indeed you cannot update mediocrity, Mxyz, as shown in this very article. Glass houses, mate.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 3:12 PM 5
I'm not saying I condone Apple for rushing out updates but are you really going to act like Android never has any problems when it comes to updates? I wanted to like the G4, I really wanted to but it just wasn't enough to convince me to give LG another shot after the G3. I'm pretty sure you're reading this while foaming at the mouth meanest. So get on with whatever bs you're about to spew.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 5:49 PM 0
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I was absolutely not acting that way nor implying that I did. On the contrary, I was agreeing with you, while also letting you know that iOS and Apple share many of the same problems that Android has with updates, not that Android has no problems with updates. I wasn't praising or making it seem that Android did better than you implied, rather, I let you know that your remark was rather harsh, considering that iOS updates recently make many of the same mistakes. In short, yes, Android often has problems with updates, and I am not happy with that either. But, likewise, you also cannot act as if iOS has many of these problems in a similar way.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 6:05 PM 3
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Apple should have the stupid problems they are having now. If Android has issues, consider the fact Android has to run on many phones. OEMS have a task of making it work with their own group of models. Apple has to deal with one phone and a tablet which run the same software and use the same hardware. These stupid problems Apple is having never they didn't have in the past. Wait they had them, but they fixed them before releasing when Jobs was there. Cook is a pushover in comparison and there own in house dev, has release 3 in a row of mess up firmware updates and you are even criticizing them. But if someone else does it, who isn't googoo gaagaa overvApple, then they are just haters in your own words. ANDROID habeas problems as Forbes and others have talked about. Considering how Android is like Windows and has to work on multiple hardware combinations, and yet has LESS problems vs iOS is amazing.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 7:14 PM 2
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I'm pretty you can't keep me out of your mouth Mxy, as evident by you having to mention my name in an article that I, until now, have not even commented on, proving yet again that you need me to justify your pitiful existence.
posted on Nov 05, 2015, 4:43 AM 2
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Everyone always brags about iOS updates. Downside to iOS updates vs Android 1 - You can't revert to older working install - If you update and something breaks, you are forced to deal with if you are already past Apple allowing you to revert back, which is only a couple days after the OS is released vs Android where if you install an update and something doesn't work, you can download ODIN and reinstall the older firmware. The only exception I have found is, phone on Verizon after being updated to a later firmware, Verizon has found a way to block reverting to older firmware's, especially ones that have been rooted. 2 - It's only a number.On both sides, if you have an older phone and update, you will get less of the features included in the update. How is Android better? Even if you have an older Android, if it gets the recent update, your phone will get more of the features available vs iOS devices. Also, if you have an older device that can be rooted, many times you can still add the features that were left out. Can't do this with iOS. if jailbroken you can add 3rd party work around. But with Android you can flash the actual same feature that came from a phone that had it originally. Sharing the same version number, doesn't mean you get 100% of the benefits on either side. But with Android you do get more of the benefits, while Apple will purposely prevent certain features to force you to upgrade. 3 - Android updates have had far less issue. Sure they take longer to come. First Android OEM receive the update from Google fairly quick, but depending on country or phone model/carrier, it could be months before you get the update. Even though it takes longer to get an update because of carrier testing/intervention, those updates have proven to be less problematic vs Microsoft's and Apple's capability to directly update your phone via OTA or with Apple using iTunes. It's really sad that with the last 3 versions of iOS, they have been so poorly tested and rushed to new devices, that devices fresh out the box are messed up with problems that seemed should ahve been caught in-house and were not and then a update has to come weeks later. Software is never finished and can always have issues, but the latest string of iOS issues just seem to have had stupid problems. How in the world did Apple release an update that broke Touch ID? How does Apple test OS upgrades? Seems they would setup a reasonable amount of phones, update them and test to see what problems they incur. I am sure if they set up like 25 phones and update them, one is bound to show issues. How is its never seen in-house and as soon as users upgrade, their phones break.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 3:33 PM 4
Techie, I really like your new style of posts. I can respect everything you said above. But for iOS users that are updating to newer OS we cannot expect some of the features to be included due to missing hardware like FP sensors, 64bit CPU, ram limitations, camera modules that allow 240fps slo-mo. Most are upgrading not to get features, but for security and software updates that are necessary - but it's not like you're not getting new features - my iPhones are typically 2 years apart and to be honest 5s only didn't get Apple Pay (for the same reason as I noted above) everything else works very good - I s**t you not. Maybe I don't experience same problems as some noted because I stick to only "s" models as they fall into my 2 year upgrade schedule. But I'm really happy with updates overall. My 5s and 6s both running iOS 9.1 - everything works with no lag (and mind you, 5s is going on its 3rd year now, and twice submerged in water). I'm still using it as a remote camera at projects and time lapse camera as I'm remodeling (it's a cool thing to watch). When it comes to users experiencing problems with new updates - why don't they ever say how many - just a few posts in the apple support page. I'll still stuck to my theory: it's not that Apple has more problems than android updates - it's that Apple updates everyone at the same exact time while android only updates a few giving them the ability to adjust the current update as complaints come in. Once again there is a huge margin of iOS users around me than there are android. So I have a huge pool of users that can experience problems - and trust me as a tech fan - I ask at gatherings or parties every time news like this come out. And no one is experiencing these issues. Just like when android problems are reported - you guys post that your phones run just fine. I believe these are isolated issues - it's just easier to report on iOS because all devices are running same software unlike android where updates are modified by two other entities before they are on your phone (or some are actually skipping updates at all). You can have 4 identical android phones - and they all will have a different lollipop 5.1 for example, and on top of that if you take a popular device like Samsung s5 - there are different versions of that even though it seems like the same exact phone I hope you understand what I said.
posted on Nov 04, 2015, 4:16 PM 1
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