Samsung's facial recognition tech needs "four to five years" to become safe enough for mobile payments

With all of those factors in play, this is Samsung we are talking about. Red screens out of box, half assed voice assistant on release, etc. I would not trust it on release.

"Red screens out of box" Is Samsung's handset the only one to have a flaw out of the box? The Google Pixel, the LG G4 and Apple iPhone 4 and 6 all had hardware flaws out of the box, no? How about cars and other gadgets too who have had flaws on release? "half assed voice assistant on release," That's because it is still beta. Apple's Siri and Google's Now were half-assed on release too, because they were in a beta form, but they got better with time... So what's your pointless point? SMH

Thank you, you proved my "pointless point." My ending statement was I would not trust facial recognition for mobile payments on release, regardless if it was Apple, LG or Samsung.

Its a new technology. SO it should go without saying. That's what your fingers an eyes are for. They are more secure. Talking about a less secure method is just dumb. Are you one of these PA writers being a poster too? Because they are very stupid. How about you be less like them. Unless you are...like them?

I am in no way affiliated with PA, I've actually been browsing this site for over a year and just felt like commenting on a bunch of stuff today, you and Trojan_horse I always see as the most active.

Trojan_horse apple and samsung device have the highest % of out of the box flaw of any OEM we sell at Telus in Canada. As for Samsung assistant we would had no issue if its was not forced on us as we cannot remap the key to a more polished one.

They also make the most phones...DO THE MATH. How many phones does LG make and sell in a year? Probably all their models combine for less than 10M. Apple and Samsung sell 10M phones in a manner of minutes. STOP being clueless. MORE PHONES EQUAL MORE ISSUES...This shyte must be rocket science!? Guess what? When car companies only made 100,000 a year,, they had less quality issues. Now that many fo them make 1M+ cares per year, they have more issue. Do you own a car? If so, how many times have you Google to see how many times your model had a recall in its lifespan? The Ford F150 is the top selling pickup truck. I can bet you $1M dollars, it also has had the most recalls.

Because only Apple and Samsung sell so much.

you sir are what society calls an idiot^^

Siri was a half-assed asiistant on release. iPhoen having yellowish screens out the box. You act as if products arent suppose to have issues?! Color calibration is a ocmmon issue with displays. Usually settign them to factory default solves th issue. But smartphoen displays dont have that, becaus ethey are calibrated during production and the calibration is handled by the software. So an update is needed to fix. But a phone having a simple issue, isnt a quality control issue. I'm curious, when your phone of choice has problems right after a release, do you say the same BS? Because if you dont then you're a hypocrite. What phone do you use? I am positive I can Google and find it had an issue right out the box after a mass release. You wanna place a bet on that? Put your money where you mouth is. In fact I am pretty sure you use an iPhone...right? So is it not a fact that EVERY SINGLE iPhone model had issues, right out the box? The Pixel had issues right out the box. :LG has had boot loop issues right pout the box. iPhones have had conenctivitity issues and UI issues, right out the box. iPhone 7 caught fire, right out the box. PA posted a article just a few weeks ago. A woman had just bought n iPhone 6S brand new and it caught fire in the same week...isn't that right out the box? Please don't be a troll. Don't turn a blind eye to the fact all tech toys have issues even in a new product. At least Samsung doesn't blame us for them. You guys who use other brands of phones always have ot be dicks to other peoples phones. WhyTF do you care about an issue someone else phone has that you don''t even own or plan to buy? I hit up Samsung and apple because I own both. I dont speak of issues when other OEM's have them because I dont own their phone. Even issue doesn't effect every person, so whats the big deal...?

I wasn't trolling if I was trolling you would know, this would be a troll "Well idk Samsungs Note 7 exploded so now I look like deadpool the last thing I want is their iris scanner laser beaming my eyes out and I turn into Cyclops."

Along with dual front cameras.

and I bet still it will be disabled for mobile payments. IMO biometric security still needs to evolve before we can call it secure. Password/pin is the only high secure feature that I could think of now. For everyone who thinks fingerprint scanner is secure, Look at this video youtube.com/watch?v=2u4ZLGsw1zo&t=849s

Password/pin with fingerprint scanner is 100% secure ( when used both at same time )

youtube.com/watch?v=2u4ZLGsw1zo&t=849s

Also iris scanner

oh right... missed the last part of the title

Yes, it's probably more secure than iris scan. It's crazy but to make it portable is really a big task.

Are you saying that Windows Hello (facial recognition) is more secure than Iris which is a biometric recognition stronger than fingerprint? No way.

yes way. https://www.portableone.com/Tech-News/Microsoft-Windows-Hello-is-officially-the-most-secure-face-recognition-system-on-Windows-laptops Iris can be tricked with high enough resolution images. Windows hello can't even be tricked by twins. It builds 3d models of your entire face and every little intricate detail.

So its can be fooled with a 3d models of your face wich again can be reproduced..

Again, you have 3 different cameras as opposed to the 2 by iris. The reproduction would be insanely hard due to the accuracy required. You need a full 3d model. You need to have the exact same skin tone and any imperfections. It's not an easy job. So even if you could fool it with some great process you created, iris and facial will still be easier to fool making the real sense tech with windows more secure.

I think you are being confused between facial scan and iris scan. To make things clear, Galaxy has Facial scan, Iris Scan and Finger Print with IRIS being the safest.