Samsung sets the stage for better processors in 2017

posted by Damian M. / Nov 03, 2016, 5:38 AM

Samsung sets the stage for better processors in 2017

This has certainly been an eventful year for Samsung. The South Korean company recently stated that it's the first in the industry to mass-produce 10 nm chips and now they've introduced even newer technologies to their customers and partners.

Earlier today, at the Samsung Foundry Forum, the tech giant unveiled their fourth-generation 14 nm tech, named 14LPU. According to Sammy, the new process will deliver higher performance than the third-generation 14LPC without affecting the power requirements set by the previous generation.

Galaxy S7 edge, Samsung's current flagship, utilizes second-gen 14 nm LPP tech.

Along with the 14LPU, Samsung presented the 10LPU – their third-generation 10 nm chip-making process. With it, the tech giant managed to reduce the surface area of their 10 nm chips. When paired with the boost in performance that the second-generation 10LPP provides, the 10LPU chips should make for an impressive and versatile design, which would be a great fit for smaller devices that require high-performance processors. Samsung believes that this should pretty much be the limit of 10 nm tech for the time being, since currently there are limitations in lithography technologies, which will not allow manufacturers to print better chips without spending significantly more than with the 10LPU.

There has also been an update regarding Samsung's 7 nm EUV process, which involved the showcase of its wafer, on which the chips are printed, before they're cut into separate processors. It is still unclear if Samsung will produce the first consumer 7 nm chip, or TSMC will beat them to that one, but we're looking forward to it either way.

The process design kits for the 14LPU and 10LPU technologies will be made available to Samsung customers in Q2, 2017. If these new technologies really are as good as Samsung claims, we expect to see more powerful mobile processors by the end of 2017, which will not affect battery life much, if at all.

source: Samsung via SamMobile

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1. BradyCrack

Posts: 835; Member since: Dec 29, 2015

I hope we get the same "fusion" technology used in the iPhone 7.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 6:04 AM 0

2. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

yeah right... 2 big core + 2 small core is really awesome innovation, Qualcomm and Samsung should step up their game and start making 4-core processor /s

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 6:06 AM 17

3. wattabulb

Posts: 13; Member since: Aug 29, 2012

Is this for real?..Samsung has been been making processors on big.LITTLE architechture (Apple calls it "Fusion") since S4..thats 2013!! Even SD810 was based off big.LITTLE. Either you are a time traveller or live in an Apple bubble, coz there is no way 2016 comes before 2013! No doubt A10 is a beast, but get your facts right mate.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 6:20 AM 20

8. AmashAziz

Posts: 2932; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

He was being sarcastic, idiot! Get your brain straight mate.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 7:28 AM 6

23. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Actually a tech expert that frequents the comment section says the Snap Dragon and exynos are ahead of Apple in performance. He will show you the stats and a essay to prove it.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 11:16 AM 3

29. SteveS

Posts: 51; Member since: Oct 15, 2013

Just getting something in 2017 that competes with Apple's 2016 phone would be a nice improvement.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 12:20 PM 0

4. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Whatever, the A10 fusion >>>>>> any other mobile processor on planet. Weather 8,10 or 4 cores

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 6:37 AM 3

5. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Gud luck with ur 720p display

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 6:49 AM 17

7. Macready

Posts: 1824; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Debatable. https://4.img-dpreview.com/files/p/E~forums/58587472/2caefcb3eb344af394d66a5af3d06b77 And that's at least 6 months older tech than the A10.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 7:02 AM 3

10. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

That's an overclocked S7 with a custom kernel. Normal S7 gets about the same score as the iPhone 7 in multi-core. Want proof: The little cluster of the S7 edge is clocked at 1.59 GHz, and that should appear in the result. But in the result you post, the little cluster is clocked at 1.9 GHz. I can only imagine how much he overclocked the big cluster.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 8:05 AM 0

18. Macready

Posts: 1824; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Doesn't change a thing, even a non overclocked 8890 can get similar results as seen here: https://browser.primatelabs.com/v4/cpu/711018 Still wins 18 out of 25 tests, same 72%.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 9:26 AM 1

21. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

The average score of the 8890 is still lower than the A10 in multicore.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 9:39 AM 0

24. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Umm, no. Around 1850/5400 for Exynos 8890 in Geekbench 4. Anything higher is highly suspect and almost certainly overclocked or using modified software.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 11:29 AM 1

34. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

http://browser.primatelabs.com/ios-benchmarks http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks iPhone 7 plus average multi-core: 5347. S7 multi-core: 5204. I was correct, once again.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 1:27 PM 1

6. Landon

Posts: 1245; Member since: May 07, 2015

Samsung's goal shouldn't just be beating the A10, but the A11 as well.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 6:55 AM 0

9. AmashAziz

Posts: 2932; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

First let the galaxy s8 surpass the iphone 6s plus........then think about anything greater than Apple A9!!

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 7:30 AM 2

12. Landon

Posts: 1245; Member since: May 07, 2015

Speed tests don't lie lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10UBsSo6O4I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_PK_6F_Bhk

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 8:40 AM 2

28. AmashAziz

Posts: 2932; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

It's good you pasted the links here for everyone, but I watched those two speed tests within two days of their release. However, many others can still get their opinions straight.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 12:11 PM 0

11. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

The fabrication of Samsung chips have always been great. I am concerned with the architecture they are using since mongoose is significantly slower than cortex A72 in most tasks and twister in almost all tasks.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 8:10 AM 0

14. Khyron

Posts: 398; Member since: Sep 28, 2015

Tyrion the Wise What can we expect from SD830 Exynos? If single core score reach the range of a10 And if Qualcomm improve the cpu perfomance GPU is another history even a10 gpu is weaker than the one on SD820 SD821 I expect benchmarks topping the low end intel corei7

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 9:10 AM 0

17. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

Single core will barely reach A9 level with the new exynos and SD830. To reach A10, they will have to literally double the IPC which is not going to happen. GPU is going to be exactly opposite with the exynos and SD annihilating A10. About the i7, just because A10 performs better than i7 in geekbench 4 doesn't mean it's as fast. In fact, it's about half as fast. The reason A10 does so good in geekbench is due to the fact that it does a lot of operations in geekbench on fixed function.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 9:21 AM 3

30. SteveS

Posts: 51; Member since: Oct 15, 2013

LOL... ridiculous attempt to justify the performance gap behind the A10. I suppose Antutu and essentially every javascript web benchmark (because they're single threaded) are similarly optimized just for the A10? Seriously, spare me the nonsense.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 12:24 PM 0

31. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

You replied to the wrong comment.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 1:13 PM 0

37. Plutonium239

Posts: 1231; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

You cannot simply compare the performance of an ARM processor which uses a risc architecture vs an x86 processor that uses a cisc architecture. They aren't even in the same league. Its like trying to compare an electric golf cart to a tesla model S.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 6:25 PM 0

20. uzimafioso

Posts: 469; Member since: Jul 15, 2014

You can search that yourself instead of kissing ass. The GPU in the A10 Fusion is considerably faster than 820's check offscreen benchmarks. However the iPhone 7 series is essentially for 2017 and the next SD generation will be here before Q2 2017, so expect the GPUs to be on par or the SD edging ahead by a fraction. I doubt single core will be as high as the A10 though. Then again, you never really know. Exynos will be good in multicore, weak in single, GPU slightly weaker than the next generation SD. This is merely how the SoC market has kept it for the past few years...

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 9:30 AM 0

32. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

Actually not. They start about 30% faster but lose about half the performance to throttling in 3 runs according to anandtech. Oneplus 3 long term performance manhattan 3.1: 30 fps iPhone 7 plus long term performance manhattan 3.1: 24.9 fps. Here's the proof: http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph10685/83895.png

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 1:18 PM 0

13. Khyron

Posts: 398; Member since: Sep 28, 2015

I think we are at the point where hardware is ahead than software That dont take advantage of all this proccesing power a10 with IOS that doesnt have true multitasking nearly reach the 40° maybe games can use much all of this power

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 9:01 AM 0

15. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2278; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

I don't understand the point of this article. Of course it's going to be better, it's 2017 next year!

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 9:18 AM 0

16. NarutoKage14

Posts: 1327; Member since: Aug 31, 2016

You guys do realize why the A10 is so powerful right? It's because it's specifically tailored to operate on specific iPhone hardware/software. Slap an A10 in a Galaxy S7 and it's going to suck because it's not tailored to work with that hardware and Android. On the other hand you have Qualcomm and Exynos which are designed to operate across a wide swath of devices at the expense of performance.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 9:19 AM 0

19. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

You are so wrong. Even in basic operations like integer multiplication and crypto-hashing, the A10 blows the exynos and snap dragon chips away. Those are common instructions towards all OS and not optimized for iOS. This is just a lie android fanboys keep telling themselves to make them think they have superior hardware. I can go into hardcore CS and explain you if you want to with hard evidence. But that would be a waste of both our times. The iPhone runs better because of iOS, but the A10 doesn't benchmark better because of it. If the A10 was on s7, it would benchmark the same and the s7 will get a little faster.

posted on Nov 03, 2016, 9:27 AM 4

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