Samsung catches up with Apple, gets patent for 3D face scanning camera
by Georgi Zarkov / Jul 05, 2018, 5:34 AM
While Apple was the first company to introduce the technology with the iPhone X's Face ID, the filing year of the patent in question, 2014, shows that Samsung has been working on it for a while. Releasing a device with 3D face scanning before they acquired the patent would have been possible, which means Samsung is still working to improve the technology so that it could be used commercially in the near future.
One possible reason is that, according to Samsung, their solution has extended capabilities. The patent includes numerous functions, including: eye tracking, motion detection, night-vision, 3D time-of-flight sensing (measures the time it takes for the 3D mapping beams to reach your face and return to the sensor) and others. Sadly, in this context night-vision refers to the ability of the sensor to work in a dark environment and would not help you sneak at night.
The system would add two new hardware elements to the front of the device, a near infrared light source and the biometric camera itself, while two new modules will handle the received information internally. The NIR light is shined at the user while the sensor picks up the return signals, standard procedure for those types of sensors, now found in other devices as well (Find X and Mi 8 explorer edition). The front-facing camera is also used to provide the system with information about the person's eyes, if they are opened or closed, or presumably, if you're wearing glasses.
While it is theoretically possible for Samsung to include this tech in the new Galaxy Note 9, none of the leaked information so far hints towards it. That means that the first smartphone to feature the 3D scanning camera will almost certainly be the 2019 flagship Galaxy S10.
source: PatentlyApple via Cnet
Posts: 534; Member since: Sep 14, 2017
Why can't they just make a decent face/iris unlock instead of making half-assed implementations and changing them each iteration. I mean, seriously, how can cheap $200 phones from Xiaomi have vastly superior face unlock compared to Samsung. And why the hell is Samsung's implementation so slow.
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 5:41 AM 7
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who cares. i just want a phone with every good feature they can get in a single phone. if they implement 3d scanning on the s10 it will be good for me if i buy it. on screen fingerprint sensor with 3d face scanning.
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 5:46 AM 3
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I very much doubt a cheap $200 dollar phone from Xiaomi has better face unlock than Samsung. I would like some actual proof to support that claim. Furthermore, have you actually owned a Samsung device with Samsung's intelligent scan? I do, and it's really convenient and works really well. If you care about security, then you shouldn't use face unlock but the fingerprint scanner or Samsung's iris scanner.
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 7:04 AM 12
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Here you go: https://youtu.be/ssqT0eaWL2U And that's a pretty reputed channel with over 1M subs And no, S6 was my last Samsung phone, and I intend to keep it that way. Releasing badly tuned Exynos processors here isn't doing them any favours, along with 6 months late updates.
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 10:46 AM 2
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Please provide a link. I know facial unlock was fooled by a simple photograph. I know iris scan was fooled in a far more complex way than faceID was but I haven't seen a link for intelligent scan being defeated easily. Iris is where it's at anyway. Far more secure than the other options since a twin, doppleganger etc can't get through.
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 3:51 PM 0
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why can't they put ambient light sensors in their $350 phones such as galaxy A6+? It's a basic sensor, is it so much to ask.....??
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 7:46 AM 1
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What's wrong with the current iris/face unlock?
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 7:50 AM 1
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If Samsung was the first to file the patent then how come the author says playing catch up? They have the technology before Apple use it. They probably not using it because it can easily be fooled like the mother and son situation which was reported before.
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 5:57 AM 8
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And how about all the patents Apple filed years before they put them in their products, yet fandroids screen about how they are copying Android OEM's? Works both ways buddy.
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 7:08 AM 4
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Android OMEs need at least 5 years to have this technology..?
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 6:20 AM 4
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How many did Apple need to get finger print scanning, notification light, notification shade, dual cameras etc?
posted on Jul 05, 2018, 6:50 AM 5
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