Samsung Mongoose 4 core leaked, expected to debut on next-generation Exynos 9820 SoC

Samsung Mongoose 4 core leaked, expected to debut on next-generation Exynos 9820 SoC
Samsung's next generation SoC will be the Exynos 9820, built using the 7nm FinFET process. The new chipset is expected to feature the new Samsung Mongoose 4 CPU. According to tipster Ice Universe, not only will the Mongoose 4 be more powerful than ARM's Cortex A-76 CPU, it will also be more energy efficient. While ARM has said that the A-76 can reach clock speeds of up to 3.30GHz, the comments from Ice Universe's tweet suggests that the Mongoose 4 processor will top that speed.

Ice Universe says that he expects the Exynos 9820 to produce a multicore Geekbench benchmark score above 13,000. That would seemingly match the score of the Apple A12 SoC, which reportedly went through the same benchmark test last month, according to the tipster. While Samsung designs and produces its own in-house chips, the A12 is designed by Apple and is currently being mass-produced by TSMC using the 7nm process. One interesting note is that the A12 tests have allegedly revealed that the chip currently consumes 23% more energy than expected, although this will undoubtedly be tweaked before the launch of the three new iPhone models later this year.

Don't expect to see the Exynos 9820 with the Mongoose 4 CPU inside any device until the Samsung Galaxy S10 tenth anniversary model is introduced next year. We could see that take place in January at CES in Las Vegas; Samsung is looking to move up its timetable to fit in the foldable Samsung Galaxy X (or whatever the device will be named). The latter could be unwrapped the following month at MWC in Barcelona.


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20 Comments

1. umaru-chan

Posts: 354; Member since: Apr 27, 2017

It will be both power hungry and inefficient just like its two predecessors. Qualcomm's solution will be better. Exynos is better in benchmark pathetic in real life. They really hyped 9810 this year but miserably failed to deliver it. Quote from anandtech "This year all eyes were on Samsung and the M3 core, and unfortunately the performance increase came at a great cost of power and efficiency which ended up making the end-product rather uncompetitive"https://www.anandtech.com/show/12785/arm-cortex-a76-cpu-unveiled-7nm-powerhouse/5 . I saw similar remark about m3 from other tech analysts and don't forget the mediocre battery life from exynose processors. Overall Qualcomm processor may not do well in benchmark but in real life it will be significantly better than exynose processor. Samsung knows their product is inferior compared to Qualcomm so they focus on benchmark points knowing that it is all they need to satisfy their pathetic brainless hollow fanboys. ;)

3. TechSceptic

Posts: 1156; Member since: Feb 05, 2018

That's an exaggeration, the exynos is far from pathetic in real life. I'm pretty confident you don't own an Exynos 9810 device. I actually do, which I'm sure most people on here will believe, while they will hardly believe you own one. It's not as energy efficient, but it's not pathetic, it still provides good battery life. I get around 5-6 hours of SoT, when it has been 24 hours since I last charged it, and that is with the Galaxy S9. I can show you proof if you don't believe it.

9. Trex95

Posts: 2380; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Sold my note 8 Exyons 8890 bought S9 plus Exyons 9810 for good price 1 day ago and overall performance and battery life excllent plus no throttling or overheating like snapdragon phones I used. The good thing Samsung fix issues with there phones with security patch same as Apple doing with iPhone and right now I’m in May security patch.

5. tedkord

Posts: 17311; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Your pain is real.

6. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1377; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

The Exynos SoCs have in the past proven to be superior in CPU performance and battery life. Granted the 9810 hasn't really delivered on either, but I'm confident Samsung will rectify it with the 9820

8. Trex95

Posts: 2380; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Exyons 9810 still better than snapdragon throttling Soc.

11. Macready

Posts: 1817; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Nonsense all around. Practically every Exynos version was more efficient than its Qualcomn counterpart. The one exception was the 9810, but looking at GSMarena tests, even those were pretty close in that regard (the Exynos still beat it for browsing and video).

14. UglyFrank

Posts: 2193; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

7420/8890/8895 all had better CPU performance and efficiency than 810/820/835

20. M.O.A.B

Posts: 318; Member since: Feb 13, 2015

all of what you've said is bullsh*t and does not make any sense and just proves you have no clue of what you are talking about. and since when was the Exynos 8895 power hungry and inefficient ??? it kind of applies to the exynos 9810 but the 8895 ?? you clearly are just hating on samsung man !

2. TechSceptic

Posts: 1156; Member since: Feb 05, 2018

That's massive, but I'm not believing it before u see it. I have an Exynos Galaxy S9, and the hype for this processor was massive, so massive that it definitely didn't live up to it. The snapdragon 845 is more energy efficient than the Exynos 9810, so I can easily believe that their Exynos 9820 is more powerful, but they're going to have to prove to me that it's more energy efficient.

4. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1377; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

That sure as hell sounds impressive, hope they can live up to it.

7. Trex95

Posts: 2380; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

Don’t think so it’s going to be in par with A12 might be with A11. But still excllent improvement from Samsung with there custom Soc.

12. torr310

Posts: 1645; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

Same here... hope the S855 on S10 will be 40% more energy efficient than the S845.

10. paeschli

Posts: 35; Member since: Aug 27, 2013

"One interesting note is that the A12 tests have allegedly revealed that the chip currently consumes 23% more energy than expected" First time I hear about this, where does this come from?

15. obedchuni

Posts: 332; Member since: Jun 16, 2014

Hope what author say comes true, Samsung can put more effort in making competitive SoC, rather than competing with Q.Com they should compete with Apple, Pls make battery too last long this time, don't know why apple put so small battery that nearly beats others phones likes oppo, huawei, LG and also Samsung to some extent, earlier I use to think of screen resolution but now iphone X too has high screen resolution with 2716 mAH where as others nearly have massive 3500 mAH batter, also decreasing the SoC size accounts for less power and i guess that Apple SoC only tends to do that, hope samy will learn and put forward the most advanced SoC this time...

16. Theomars

Posts: 4; Member since: Aug 13, 2016

Periods. Such wonderful innovations...............

17. CreeDiddy

Posts: 2146; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

ARM chips are on this rise. Proud of Samsung to achieve the A11 numbers. Waiting on A11X and A12 results.

18. martinjhm271

Posts: 45; Member since: Aug 16, 2015

The A12 has a tpd issue about 23% higher than expected, currently the exynos 9810 on oreo 8.1 can score 11000+ in geekbech, samsung's 7nm euv are far superior than tsmc's 7nm, i think exynos 9820 minimun will be equal to A12's score

19. Trex95

Posts: 2380; Member since: Mar 03, 2013

When it comes to bigger cores TSMC beat Samsung with easy this one of the reason why Apple chose TSMC over Samsung. But Samsung still doing an excllent job to compete with Apple and that’s how should google do with there pixel phones, unfortunately google doesn’t want to spend money for RD and still want to sell there pixel phones as expensive as iPhone and Galaxy.

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