RBC: Apple will sell more than 10 million units of the Apple iPhone 6 in the first week after release

11. magnanimus (Posts: 562; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)

Well this really isn't a surprise. People bought the iPhone 5s which was only a marginal improvement from the iPhone 5. How many do you think will buy the iPhone 6 with huge changes?

14. Finalflash (Posts: 3527; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

It isn't because of any superiority or feature set. Most iPhone owners just don't know anything but Apple and are too afraid to try anything else. They literally made a dumb smartphone for a reason, because people are afraid of change and once you get them into your ecosystem they rarely change. iPhone had the distinct advantage of being there first in the new age of smartphones and those initial customers largely keep it floating.

Some iFans will come here claiming they know about other options and "choose" to stay with the iPhone and what not. Yet anytime they are asked why, they throw down Apple talking point (which are usually lies) or if they're fanboys they point out that Apple is making the most money off of them and therefore, it is the better choice.

16. magnanimus (Posts: 562; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)

I know if this set of people you described above and there's some truth to it. But there's also another set of buyers that wait to see what the iPhone offers before buying it or stay with their current phone. Most of the people from this set held off from buying the iPhone last year. Now this year, the sales are gonna be wild because [set of people you described]+[set impressed by the changes like larger screen and more open iOS]+[set left with a bad taste from Samsung and has the money for an iPhone] are all gonna get this version of the iPhone.

17. bucky (Posts: 3133; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

I'd be glad to give you my perspective after trying out a nexus 5 for a week and a gs5 a few months earlier.

I don't want a portable device to be gigantic. Equivalent android apps are not as good the iPhones(strangely even the google apps were better. More selection and first release in App Store. Buttery smooth software (nexus 5 too). Amazing camera. iCloud is unmatched (this is not even close). A lot of people have them so iMessage, FaceTime, free pic messaging and compatibility). Design is brilliant. Software support from apple. Accessories are everywhere. Screen is brilliantly balanced. Phone call quality. Accepted everywhere by corporate companies. Music quality. I don't want 1000 options for every part of my phone, just one or two good ones. Internal memory (after all applications were installed the nexus and especially the gs5 were getting choppy and running out of ram). Use with a Mac and iPad. Airplay and screen mirror to Apple TV still the cleanest and best quality. Resale value when you want to upgrade. There are more but this is off the top of my head.

Those are just a few of the things I found better. Android is great for those who enjoy customizing and various shapes and sizes. I prefer simple, clean and powerful.

Also, there are androids phones that do certain things better than the iPhone but to me, not one that is as complete as the iPhone.

20. HansGoneInsane (unregistered)

Good post. When you buy a smartphone, you buy a complete package. For many users, the iPhone offers the most attractive package. A couple of months ago, I switched from an iPhone 5 to a Sony Z2 and I want to change back to iPhone 6. The hardware of the Z2 is great but so many details (software quality in the Android App Store, Software integretiy, too many clicks until I reach what I want to reach) are just not matching the iPhone's standard. Don't get me wrong, Sony apps like Walkman, Movies or Album are fantastic. But the iPhone and its ecosystem are just more consistent than the Android wild grown jungle.

21. bucky (Posts: 3133; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

Thank you. I gave my honest opinion here as I genuinely enjoy android. Also, I'm a PC guy that builds custom computers and I work in the IT area. Iv had my time rooting android phones all the way back to the Motorola milestone.

I just hate senseless bashing I often see around here.

22. darkkjedii (Posts: 24906; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)

Can't wait to read his reply to that one bucky. Good post +1

24. magnanimus (Posts: 562; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)

Great post man but I on the contrary have found android to be the better choice for me. I use an LG G2 running stock android BTW just for reference. And this is because:

I get an awesome screen-to-body ratio which is compact but also has a large screen so this phone isn't too gigantic, it comes with a great screen, hardware like IR blaster and notification light that complement my daily use, Bluetooth transfer as I'd like to share content with people with other phones, system wide 3rd party integration, I have a file manager and also can download content without the use of an app, great XDA support and lots of ROMs to try out if you don't like your current one, with stock ROM the phone flies and performs great, I customise my home screen to my liking with widgets like my calendar for quick glance. And many more

I'm not saying android is the best, I'm just saying android seems to cater for some things Apple can't seem to give me. Preference differs

25. Finalflash (Posts: 3527; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

Okay, lets start from the top.

Phone size is your choice, that is legitimate. BUT the problem with that is usually the hypocrisy of the iFan (their preferences change based on what Apple releases and not naturally). When the iPhone 6 releases, I assume you won't be buying one because it is gigantic by your own standards (it is the size of the S4 pretty much).

Equivalent apps are better on the Android version by far. They have more sharing options, more customization options and just as much choice. Some apps are iOS first and an even greater number of apps are not iOS at all because it just can't do what they do. Games are the only apps that legitimately go iOS first and that is fine, that is its plus if that is your thing.

Buttery smooth is just an idiotic marketing point now. I'm not going to entertain that BS in this response, but I'll elaborate on it if you can actually bring up a valid point/example and not just a retarded Apple powerpoint (or is it keynote) bullet point.

iCloud is unmatched in that it really works with nothing. Drive, SkyDrive, Dropbox, etc. are far better, more versatile and more useful. Plus they are more useful in Android seeing as how you can share and manage a file system properly. iMessage/facetime are easily replaceable with Hangouts, Skype, Viber, etc. (don't even know why you'd bring it up seeing as how the latter are more useful with more people and platforms making the Apple equivalents seem worse).

Design is brilliant, for 2011, and many Android flagships have far surpassed it now. Terrible bezel/screen size ratio, terrible dual color combinations (other than the black one) and easily scratched metal isn't brilliant in any way (I would know, I have a more premium phone).

Software support from Apple is available, but unless you're a pre-teen or retiree I don't see how mobile tech support will hold anyone back from simply Googleing it (its faster, try it). Accessories are a plus, but thanks to Apple, they'll screw you over by releasing new proprietary crap to make sure your wallet stays light and simple (no more complicated money).

Screen is brilliant, for 2011 again, most Android flagships are as good or better now. Phone quality is largely a carrier problem and most Android phones support HD Voice.

Accepted everywhere by corporate companies, sure but so is literally every samsung or nokia phone (pick one if you need it).

Music quality is amazing on most Android flagships, generically stating that is just pointless.

No one forced you to use 1000 options, but I would rather they be available when I need them than not be there at all.

Never really had a RAM problem with any of my devices. I have about 64 different apps and even with 2 GB I have at least 700+ mb available on my PF infinity. Still smoother than butter and very much more customized.

Use with my Windows/MAC/Android devices and screen mirror/stream to my chromecast cleaner, better quality, and cheaper than Apple TV.

27. bucky (Posts: 3133; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

Easy response ...

Size is up to user so pointless to argue. Even the 4.7 isn't nearly as big as the 5.2 inch phones coming out

Equivalent showed slow choppy movement and often lacked features

I included this because it's part of the user experience...and very true apart from nexus 5

iCloud is an apple product. I have more than an iPhone as do many other. There's nothing that Google offers that comes close within the ecosystem

Call the design old, it's absolutely brilliant

Apple product, apple accessory- easy to grasp no? Software updates are something you probably don't hear about so I'll forgive you for misunderstanding here.

Screen is still considered to be one of the best and well calibrated screens out of the main flagships. See the screen comparison here.

None of the govt or major banks in Canada accept android so it's valid where I am.

Music quality really is better than. If I cared enough there are quite few reviews that will tell you the same.

More options are great but so is having one streamlined well controlled one too.

See xda forums of the newest flagship offered from Samsung or the g3 and find out about home screens having to reload and crazy/inconsistent ram usage. I'm a senior member and still read out of interest because I like android too.

Bought chrome cast and it couldn't stream a 700 mb file without jitter or the voice being off. Returned a few days later. Bought it at the same time as the nexus.

At least is try android and blindly hate it because I prefer iOS.

30. Finalflash (Posts: 3527; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

Lol well that didn't take long, expected you to not go full fanboy so quickly but what's done is done.

Firstly, calm down, I didn't insult your mom or something, or anyome really since all I did was refute a couple points.

All my devices are unbelievably smooth and I don't know what you're doing to yours but I'll take your word for it.

I've also had KitKat on most of my devices for a while now so I really don't understand what you mean unless you just meant to parrot more Apple talking points. Honestly if you call version number and skin changes "software support" then I don't think you'll understand what I'm saying anyway.

Google products and services are better than Apple services in most categories other than office which really isn't Apples game either. iCloud is average at best and that is being nice.

Screen is considered to be "one" of the best with the rest of the best being Android phones and the best being the S5 at the moment.

Music quality is equivalent to other flagships, please go ahead and link these conclusive wins by the iPhone.

All android flagships have a streamlined well controlled option with plenty more at your disposal.

See macrumors and 9to5 Mac for all sorts of bugs and security breaches on the iPhone. I don't read them directly but often they are reposted by the authors here.

Don't know why you have bad luck anything other than apple gear (might be the bias) but my Chromecast streams full HD content straight from my phone without a problem.

Thing is I probably have more Apple products in my household than your entire family owns (my brother is an iOS app developer for orange and my parents mainly use Apple devices), but hey, you can believe what you want.

32. bucky (Posts: 3133; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

never took offense to that hence my response...

Iv heard this before about many android devices.....again, gave you my (and apparently MANY others) experience

if your devices are all running kitkat its because theyre new, just got 4.4.2 or a nexus device

I enjoy my google services to an extent. chrome being my default browser too. Icloud is absolutely brilliant if you have some other apple products...you have mentioned nothing otherwise to negate my original point.

there is no clear winner with screens as they all seem to provide different experiences. The S5 is not the king but one of the best-i tried the different settings in the phones confusing menus

http://www.whathifi.com/apple/iphone-5s/review see sound section as an example i guess...

All flagships have their own skins installed, carrier apps, different ram, screen size, hardware in general...with that menus are different and confusing, apps are inconsistent between phones out of the box ( you can take a good amount of time to change this)

Its not bad luck...like i said im no apple evangelist and thats why i went out and bought a nexus 5 and chromecast as i really wanted to give it a chance. See my response to the "lag free" phones you have had-fits there.

And you can surely hate all you want as well. My original post was my experience with 2 very popular and well received android phones...I made that clear...next time ill highlight for you if you like

26. Finalflash (Posts: 3527; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

Ran out of room on the earlier post, but TLDR, most of what you mentioned is arbitrary or just down right pointless (either it is a marketing point or just straight up wrong). Even with that, go ahead and use your iDevices, that is your prerogative. Yet don't deny the Apple fan hypocrisy and misinformed nature (for most of them anyway), it is literally its own segment on comedy shows now.

28. bucky (Posts: 3133; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

You have to be smoking some seriously good stuff. Take a look at these forums alone and tell me who looks like the brainwashed ones. Blind hate, constant attacking on apple fans staying on topic in every apple article.

Even your very response to me comes riddled with belittling my comment. All I did was share my experience and you couldn't handle it even while I'm crediting the nexus 5 at the same time.

It's your choice what you prefer ... The brainwashed ones are usually the ones bashing others on their choices. This fortunately doesn't apply to all android fans.

31. Finalflash (Posts: 3527; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

I don't mention Apple out of context, if it was mentioned, I'll reply but I don't bring Apple into anything as much as youd like to believe. In my reply I didn't belittle you on anything that wasn't a marketing talking point, the ones that were deserved nothing less than the reply they got.

It is your choice what you prefer but that doesn't mean I can't point out the flaws in your choice device. That freedom goes both ways so don't get personal when I don't agree with you.

33. bucky (Posts: 3133; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)

You hunt through comments and look for a reason to post. You couldnt help but take more than a few cheap shots at my choice throughout your comment or the one before it.

Point out flaws, just dont make it your lifes work to spam that opinion.

My responses were in the same tone as yours to me...not sure you're used to that as people generally dont bother to respond to the crap you post...

18. kindlefireowner (Posts: 503; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

Business 101. Make a product that people want to buy. Then sell as many of that product as possible at full price.
Last I checked, selling phones is a business.
Signed Happy Apple shareholder$$$

19. naittosan (Posts: 234; Member since: 28 Jun 2014)

Apparently you have not see the price on that mid-range alpha phone

3. BUFFQREWBBQ (Posts: 46; Member since: 11 May 2014)

They've never been blinder.

4. amiaq (Posts: 509; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)

Blind and deaf.... and tasteless

6. Rathish.silver (Posts: 8; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)

No worries... All those ihaters will purchase iProducts in future...

13. magnanimus (Posts: 562; Member since: 29 Mar 2013)

There's constructive critism my friend :) some people here give good reasons to why they hate particular companies. Gives you a better insight on what some customers want. This is a great time for mobile tech :D

10. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)

This is actually a great time so I agree with you. This is how companies should fight it out; by releasing new products for consumers. Not fighting it out in courtrooms.
If I didn't already try out the iPhone 5s last year I would have been super excited for this iPhone 6. But a larger screen won't change the fact that it's running iOS. But I can't wait to see Android OEM's try to out think Apple. This is what makes better phones for everyone.